Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[eastcoastjoe]

A good portion of black folks think its as stupid as you and me do. The only ones calling for it are living in yuppie-fied urban shitholes that anyone and everyone can barely afford to live in

Not to mention the race war it would ignite. Make every poor tax payer fund something like that and it will build a world of resentment and violence. Smart democrats already know what kind of fallout it would create and thats why it is constantly shot down
Hell, almost half the country is Hispanic now and they immigrated long after the slave days.
Lets see how they react to funding it

People like him are why racism will never die. News propaganda is another.

 

[shiva82]

I don’t see how giving every black American $250,000 is the solution. If I’m wrong please tell me why.

surely the solution would be to give everyone 250000 dollars , of all colours. as proven countless times, every race has been subject to slavery .

 

[shiva82]

it is just more racism aimed towards white folk

 

[nepalnt21]

what did biden do for the working class?

a buncha stuff... he was the most pro worker president we've had in decades.

for one, he extended who could get overtime pay by millions of ppl, and another his ftc squashed noncompete clauses. a lot of it has been politiciany stuff like visiting a strike and encouraging workers to unionize, but also real like forcing certain government contracts to only use union workers

 

[nepalnt21]

I don’t see how giving every black American $250,000 is the solution. If I’m wrong please tell me why.

i haven't looked into the ins and outs of reparations, can't speak on it atm

 

[eastcoastjoe]

a buncha stuff... he was the most pro worker president we've had in decades.

for one, he extended who could get overtime pay by millions of ppl, and another his ftc squashed noncompete clauses. a lot of it has been politiciany stuff like visiting a strike and encouraging workers to unionize, but also real like forcing certain government contracts to only use union workers

I can tell you one thing. He wasn’t there for those union workers in Maryland when the bridge collapsed. That press release that he put out about all the things that he did, it was bullshit lol he took credit for stuff he did not even do.

 

[Cannavore]

what did biden do for the working class?

he squashed the rail strike and sided with the companies over the workers lol

 

[nepalnt21]

i mean i'm not even a fan of biden... i found him too conservative, too high-n-mighty, too old and weak (in terms of playing dirty to beat the bad guys) and concerned with decorum (typical shitlib establishcrat)... and he's a self- described zionist. he doesn't actually care about working class ppl, i mean he's a career neoliberal.

i'm just glad we got to see a bit of some worker action, usually it's crickets or the opposite of good for workers.

 

[nepalnt21]

he squashed the rail strike and sided with the companies over the workers lol

yeah that was bullshit... it's sad, he's STILL been more 'pro' worker and union than presidents in decades... that's how out of touch they all are and methinks a key point to why trump won the popular vote finally for the first time ever

 

[zachrockbadenof]

It's been more than a little obvious that you love criminals in your government.

interesting comment..we will see how far the gov't goes in this quest.... interesting a lot of liberal gov's/mayors are saying they will refuse to aid the ice agents... but when 50 migrants were flown into martha's vineland a few years ago, they were shown the door by 100 armed nat guard troops.. apparently migrants are welcome, but not in the playground of the rich... just an observation

 

[moose eater]

Are you African American moose ?

Nope.

I'm not nearly as self-serving as you and some others in this thread.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Nope.

I'm not nearly as self-serving as you and some others in this thread.

I’m not self serving but I respect you answering the question. If you don’t mind me asking, why do you think all black Americans deserve reparations?

 

[moose eater]

I liked him until i learned his whole platform is basically built on jew bashing
and paying off black people for something that happened 150 years ago

Moose is on board for that kind of shit though. and thats certainly his right

You're a liar if you claim that Cornel West is in favor of Jew bashing. The same sort of 'logic' that equates opposing militant Zionism and land theft with antisemitism.

Generalizations again to the point of absurdity, Rob? This early in the morning?

And reparations have a legal foundation in history. If I stole your car and raped your mother 50 years ago, it's still your car, and I still raped your mother.

 

[moose eater]

I’m not self serving but I respect you answering the question. If you don’t mind me asking, why do you think all black Americans deserve reparations?

There you go with your strawman bullshit again. You've already done it previously this morning (though I didn't call you out on it; days have too few hours and all of that stuff), and I'd wager you're too obstuse to even identify where or when you did it, because it's second-nature to you. It's how you present yourself in your inherent pomposity, which you're also apparently unaware of.

Who said reparations are for all Black people?... Other than you, I mean.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

If I stole your car and raped your mother 50 years ago, it's still your car, and I still raped your mother.

Should your great great great grandchildren be responsible as well ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

There you go with your strawman bullshit again. You've already done it previously this morning (though I didn't call you out on it; days have too few hours and all of that stuff), and I'd wager you're too obstuse to even identify where or when you did it, because it's second-nature to you. It's how you present yourself in your inherent pomposity, which you're also apparently unaware of.

Who said reparations are for all Black people?... Other than you, I mean.

If I’m not mistaken, Cornel West

 

[moose eater]

Should your great great great grandchildren be responsible as well ?

If they've still got the car and helped to profit or benefit from the abuses, then... yep.

It's the -Country- that committed the crimes. The Country isn't dead yet. Nearly, but not quite dead yet. The Country is eventually responsible for all of its sins in a just world. It's called civilization and justice.

And most of the time you seem extremely nationalist where your Country is involved, as though it's integral to your identity. Your Country committed crimes. Your Country owes penance for those crimes. Whether you're too cheap to cover it or not.

 

[moose eater]

If I’m not mistaken, Cornel West

You're mistaken. but you do that a lot, and rarely or never admit it. Something you have in common with Herr Trump.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

 

[eastcoastjoe]

If they've still got the car and helped to profit or benefit from the abuses, then... yep.

How do you suppose we go about figuring out who owes what to who and for what ??