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Trump cancels summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un

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packerfan79

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Could you give some examples of people who hate trump so much that they would wish the U.S. fails?

And a fascinating tidbit you may know he didn’t win the popular vote, meaning he got less votes than Clinton. He won in states with enough electoral votes, which is what counts. Fair system is up for debate

Everyone in Hollywood, the University, the Mainstream media.
 
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the partisanship is incredible, it's like some folks hate Trump so much that they actually want the US to fail, i wonder where it will lead, will there be a coupe? will there be impeachment? more pardons? what will be next? the rules seemed to have been changed for ever, so if a democrat wins next, will we be digging into every single aspect of their whole lives and anyone they ever dealt with to find dirt? will the doj do the same thing to the next guy? what does it mean for democracy and the will of the people etc? i mean Trump won despite everyone knowing who he was business wise etc. it's fascinating to watch it all happen as an outsider.

I think the clear difference in 'digging for dirt' on any future candidates vs the current is that to anyone with eyeballs an ears already knew Trump was a shameless conman before he ran for president....

They didn't REALLY have to dig, he is a fountaining geyser of deceit and corruption.

Sure, go ahead and investigate future candidates, maybe that should already be a prerequisite, it would have prevented the ongoing drama before it even happened.

I'm guessing most of anyone who voted for Trump just fell for the cult of personality and knew nothing really of who he is.... and i'll say a bit more gullible than your average bear.

Anyways.... i'll leave the Americans to it.
 
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Everyone in Hollywood, the University, the Mainstream media.

From the outside looking in, i think they just know that Trump 'succeeding' IS America failing.

NOT that they want America to fail.

Man.... i see too much of this Trump guy on youtube.... sneaky algorithms :yoinks:
 
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From the outside looking in, i think they just know that Trump 'succeeding' IS America failing.


So, if Trump succeeds...America fails ?

So say...Trump creates the greatest stock market...ever, lowers the unemployment to a level not seen in over 40 years, lowest black unemployment...EVER, North and South Korea have declared their war is over.

Normally I would throw a jab in there...maybe some soy related dig. But i will be nice.

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Come on now.

For the concerned parties to be in US custody, "the point of presentation" is, of necessity, inside the borders of the US. I have serious doubts that the Border Patrol is crossing the border, kidnapping any hapless families passing by, dragging them back across the border and incarcerating them with the intent of separating the parents from their children.


In at least 2 locations down in the Rio Grande Valley the point of presentation recently moved to the center of the bridge.

It would appear in an effort to suppress asylum requests.
 

CaptainDankness

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I am speaking of immigrants being being separated from their children.
For you to refer to them as 'illegal' at the point of presentation is factually incorrect.
This is not at all how our system has worked forever.
It is pathetic to hear the president blaming the democratic party for his 'Choice' to take infants from their mothers.

Funny thing about the Democrats is Obama infact deported more immigrants than anyone before him.

We also have a legal system to become an American citizen, you can't just come to America have a child and poof, the law don't apply to you. If we allow it everyone will do it.

I'd rather not have millions of immigrants voting, they didn't grow up in American, well they probably don't respect our constitution. We are the only nation with freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, many people around the world don't agree, but this is America, not the rest of the world.
 

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From the outside looking in, i think they just know that Trump 'succeeding' IS America failing.

NOT that they want America to fail.

Man.... i see too much of this Trump guy on youtube.... sneaky algorithms :yoinks:

The problem is that the Elites belive what you just said. They belive that their opinion is more important than the regular Americans lives and liberties. Bill Maher wishing for a depression, this hurts real Americans. People will lose their homes, jobs, retirement. The elitist don't care, they are willing to usurp the will of the American people. This goes against everything this country is founded on. The founding fathers would be screaming " you better kill these fucking tyrants".shit JFK would be called alt right

Most Americans don't belive in the leftist agenda. It is destructive. Identity politics, neo marxism, anti religion, facts are offensive, race based discrimination dressed up as affirmative action these are not good things. Trump Derangement syndrome is real. You have demonstrated that 100%. If you look at the facts, Trump has done much to help the regular American. I get it you hate any politician who isn't far left, its not intellectually honest to not be able to take a unbiased look at things.As I said earlier the left is so blinded by their rage, they don't see that life is better for all Americans. The left believes their extreme left policies are some how moral(they are not). The left has gone so far left they can't even see the middle. The centrist Bluedog Democrat is no longer welcome. The left, left Americans in favor of an elitist, globalist agenda. Open borders, Special rights for every victim group. It's a sick and disgusting ideaology, that pits everyone against each other.

Can you expound upon exactly what Trump has done to harm this country? Facts please, not conjecture. I ask for substantial things not just "he's Orange, he lies, he's mean. Can you name specific policies?


We get it you hate anyone on the right. Trump wasn't a pussy like McCain, or Romney. Those were RINOS they are weak and scared the left will attack them. Trump relishes the attack, he knows every time the Regressive left attacks him. Another American says "Fuck these lunatics, never voting for them again." The left will eventually destroy itself, I would rather it not destroy the nation as well.
 

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Funny thing about the Democrats is Obama infact deported more immigrants than anyone before him.

We also have a legal system to become an American citizen, you can't just come to America have a child and poof, the law don't apply to you. If we allow it everyone will do it.

I'd rather not have millions of immigrants voting, they didn't grow up in American, well they probably don't respect our constitution. We are the only nation with freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, many people around the world don't agree, but this is America, not the rest of the world.


CaptainDankness, It was not "funny" at all, that our first black president was also the 'deporter in chief'. It was real corporate though.
I find no humor in this president following in his footsteps and accelerating the process. It is real corporate though.
This president like many of us, is the grand child of immigrants.

No immigrant, gets to vote, unless they have undergone a process known as 'naturalization'.
The process involved, is described here:
https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learners/learn-about-naturalization
Here are the materials for the civics test:
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default...ip Resource Center Site/Publications/100q.pdf
 

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As I mentioned earlier, the deportations under Obama didn't peak - they changed the metric. Previously, "deportations" were only counted if they were done from the interior of the country. Obama wanted to appear as though he was being tough on illegal immigration and the metric was changed to include people who were denied entry at the border.

The same thing was done with "mass shootings" to make it look as though they had grown worse. In the past, the FBI only counted it as a mass shooting if there were 4 or more people shot, not including the shooter. The Obama administration changed that to 3 or more, including the shooter.

Whether or not you agree with the changes is irrelevant, it makes comparison with past statistics invalid.


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Oh noes bill maher said something bad!!!!



Mitch McConnell literally held meetings with his fellow republicans to come up with ways to obstruct and sabotage Obama lol. Its like this country has amnesia sometimes.
 

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CaptainDankness, It was not "funny" at all, that our first black president was also the 'deporter in chief'. It was real corporate though.
I find no humor in this president following in his footsteps and accelerating the process. It is real corporate though.
This president like many of us, is the grand child of immigrants.

No immigrant, gets to vote, unless they have undergone a process known as 'naturalization'.
The process involved, is described here:
https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learners/learn-about-naturalization
Here are the materials for the civics test:
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default...ip Resource Center Site/Publications/100q.pdf

It's intellectually dishonest to fail to recognize their is a huge difference between legal, and illegal immigrants. I welcome legal immigrants, legal immigration is what built this great nation.

As far as the voting, are you aware that California automatically registers voters when they receive their drivers license. Illegals are eligible for drivers licences. I am quite sure many non citizens have voted in our elections.
 

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How do you know they were all legal immigrants?

Bimbo Tomi Lahren echos the same points as you guys and she recently found out her great grandfather was an illegal.

It reminds me of the KKK guy getting a dna test and finding out hes part african.
 

Gry

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It's intellectually dishonest to fail to recognize their is a huge difference between legal, and illegal immigrants. I welcome legal immigrants, legal immigration is what built this great nation.

As far as the voting, are you aware that California automatically registers voters when they receive their drivers license. Illegals are eligible for drivers licences. I am quite sure many non citizens have voted in our elections.

pack in light of the fact that you have gravitated to the imperial usage of the term "we", I find your claims suspect as your quoted logic.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We get it you hate anyone on the right. Trump wasn't a pussy like McCain, or Romney. Those were RINOS they are weak and scared the left will attack them. [/FONT]
 

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As I mentioned earlier, the deportations under Obama didn't peak - they changed the metric. Previously, "deportations" were only counted if they were done from the interior of the country. Obama wanted to appear as though he was being tough on illegal immigration and the metric was changed to include people who were denied entry at the border.

The same thing was done with "mass shootings" to make it look as though they had grown worse. In the past, the FBI only counted it as a mass shooting if there were 4 or more people shot, not including the shooter. The Obama administration changed that to 3 or more, including the shooter.

Whether or not you agree with the changes is irrelevant, it makes comparison with past statistics invalid.
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Every thing about the Koch agenda makes comparison with past norms irrelevant.
 

packerfan79

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pack in light of the fact that you have gravitated to the imperial usage of the term "we", I find your claims suspect as your quoted logic.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We get it you hate anyone on the right. Trump wasn't a pussy like McCain, or Romney. Those were RINOS they are weak and scared the left will attack them. [/FONT]

I will clarify we would be anyone not on the far left. If it makes you feel better. I feel this way, sorry if I spoke for other people.

I noticed no one wants to address my question what policies of the Trump administration are illegal. Hum, I wonder why?
 

packerfan79

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Oh noes bill maher said something bad!!!!



Mitch McConnell literally held meetings with his fellow republicans to come up with ways to obstruct and sabotage Obama lol. Its like this country has amnesia sometimes.

Democrats have freaking press conferences about impeaching a duly elected President. How does what McConnell(who i can't stand)does compare to using the FBI and DOJ to undermine a presidential campaign. Or DNC pushing the Sanders campaign out. The left has no room to speak when it comes to obstructing a sitting President. The Republicans were elected to get their agenda implemented. Why is it ok for Democrats to represent their voters wishes, but not ok for Republicans to represent their voters wishes.
 

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pack in light of the fact that you have gravitated to the imperial usage of the term "we", I find your claims suspect as your quoted logic.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We get it you hate anyone on the right. Trump wasn't a pussy like McCain, or Romney. Those were RINOS they are weak and scared the left will attack them. [/FONT]


Every thing about the Koch agenda makes comparison with past norms irrelevant.


You are wandering pretty far afield this morning, Gry. Are you suggesting that the Koch brothers controlled Obama?
 

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Questioning the imperial usage of the term 'we', is far afield. Not hardly.

It was Bannon who stated who stated that anyone who questioned the agenda would be primaried.

Gonna make some hot cakes this morning. With maple syrup from the national security threat to the north, that is 'far afield'.
 
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