Trump administration hints at ‘greater enforcement’ of marijuana laws

[packerfan79]

with a name like "sessions" he should be smoking weed all day

Best post on this thread

@ resin lung, you are welcome to your opinion. Mine is that the left is fundamentally unAmerican. I would not be calling on veterans to back you. And I don't expect you to see reality. I am not going to get sucked in to your ridiculous arguments. Have a great life, I won't be wasting my time on you.

 

[resin_lung]

Why not ask vet for there opinion? I don't joke with vets about war. So when I ask a vet it's cause I'd like to know or be corrected. Not for backup. I've never served. Better I just politely ask for their help and let them do what they do. I can't even back them up!!! I can get out of their way and support.

Thank you but No need for you to welcome my opinion. Nor I yours. Opinions aren't necessarily based on facts or knowledge but, some people got it twisted. Opinions are only unconditionally equal in conversations between very small children or about those cards with ink splats.

The ones based on fact and knowledge are the only acceptable opinions in an adult convo. So I do my best to respect one type and relentlessly disrespect the other.

See reality? Has anybody ever found a post of yours in a political thread useful? Haha I'm so cruel.... (we all know he's was reading his posts and now he's counting all the usefuls all happy with 1 or 2 as long as he can get SOMETHING on me)hahaha

Count them up! I'll count mine! We can see who's bubble bursts.

Isn't that what you said the last time you weren't gonna waist your time with me anymore?

I didn't get to post my reply before the thread got shut but you were going on about my reality too so no need to waist the talking point!

It was about our different worlds. Or bubbles! You are alone in your bubble. There are miles(obvious exaggeration)of corn between you in you skin tight bubble and the next real American in their bubble.

I'm in my bubble too but there are millions of people in here too! We breath the same air! Every race, color, religion, political, sexual orientation.... I even think that fukn TWO HEADED TEENAGE MONSTER GIRL is in this motherfuker!

Do I need to continue?

Thats an opinion homeboy!

 

[topheavy420]

Topheavy420: Great point, Trump was probably positioning for leverage against states who are so far fighting against his main objective. But it was pretty dumb on his part though. Because it was a no win battle for him from the start

I mean.... does anybody think he's gained leverage by letting his appointee make threats but then get called on his bluff? Besides him of course! I don't. But I'm not as insightful as others.

Lets see how it works on North Korea? Hopefully your right. A little leverage could go a long way with this nut ball. It is the same tactic, right?

It could have been leveraging but more likely sessions voicing his opinions and it goes to show AGs are leashed to an extent from the president, just like the others from recent past. They're cops esentially, so no big surprise.

I don't think anyone is bluffing on North Korea. It was left in bizarre fashion long ago and has been simmering ever since, it will boil over eventually, seems sooner rather than later. Will it be a horrible thing to go to war? Of coarse it will, but the alternative could end up being a whole lot worse.

I think Trump was serious about nafta, but Canada and Mexico thought it was a bluff and waited until ten minutes to midnight to cave.

Anyone can see trump has a sizable ego. Do you really think he wants to go down as a horrible president? Or someone who saved america?

I don't agree with everything trump does or says but ultimately I hope he does more right than wrong and betters the country and world. Judgement of his presidency will come in due time, not 99 days in. That's why I've taken a break from these threads and Politics in general. I doubt I'll be back in here for some time, I had to comment on vta's post, because it what I was saying all along.

So glad the cannabis battlefield has not been drawn up. Stay stoned friends!

 

[WelderDan]

Best post on this thread

@ resin lung, you are welcome to your opinion. Mine is that the left is fundamentally unAmerican. I would not be calling on veterans to back you. And I don't expect you to see reality. I am not going to get sucked in to your ridiculous arguments. Have a great life, I won't be wasting my time on you.

Excuse me? I'm un-american? You don't know jack shit about me. How about wasting some of your precious time on me?

I'm quite Liberal. I think Gay people have the right to get married. I think women have the right to make their own decisions about their body. I think everyone is free do do as they wish as long as they don't harm others.

So what, exactly is it about me that you have a problem with? What makes you the salt of the earth, but makes me un-american?

Come on, what is it that make me un-american?

 

[igrowone]

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I don't think anyone is bluffing on North Korea. It was left in bizarre fashion long ago and has been simmering ever since, it will boil over eventually, seems sooner rather than later. Will it be a horrible thing to go to war? Of coarse it will, but the alternative could end up being a whole lot worse.

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agree with you there, been simmering for over 50 years, that's a lot of simmering
i get the vibe that China is getting more than a little scared
pay attention to that, a scared China is not a good thing
but for Christ's sake, they puff the herb legally there(in NK, or did)
maybe cannabis will prevent ww3, add it to its list of miracles

 

[toxic hippie]

while im glad to know that sessions isnt going to crackdown on us or at least not yet. i dont believe he should get a pat on the back or even a good game for letting the will of the people proceed.

 

[Cannavore]

Excuse me? I'm un-american? You don't know jack shit about me. How about wasting some of your precious time on me?

I'm quite Liberal. I think Gay people have the right to get married. I think women have the right to make their own decisions about their body. I think everyone is free do do as they wish as long as they don't harm others.

So what, exactly is it about me that you have a problem with? What makes you the salt of the earth, but makes me un-american?

Come on, what is it that make me un-american?

not to split hairs but the examples you named are more of a social libertarian thing, which many republicans these days are. especially the younger ones.

out of curiosity, how about these?

- raise taxes on top earners and corporations?
- universal health care?
- repeal citizens united (money = free speech) and move towards public funding of elections?
- raise the min wage?
- bring back glass steagall and hold wall street criminals accountable?
- end the war on drugs?
- renegotiate US free trade deals?
- paid vacation, sick, and family leave?

 

[WelderDan]

not to split hairs but the examples you named are more of a social libertarian thing, which many republicans these days are. especially the younger ones.

out of curiosity, how about these?

- raise taxes on top earners and corporations?
- universal health care?
- repeal citizens united (money = free speech) and move towards public funding of elections?
- raise the min wage?
- bring back glass steagall and hold wall street criminals accountable?
- end the war on drugs?
- renegotiate US free trade deals?
- paid vacation, sick, and family leave?

Please, I'm not Libertarian. I don't care to get into specifics. I identify as a liberal. A lefty, that's all that's relevant. Even Libertarians can't agree on what makes a Libertarian.

I identify as a Liberal and I want to know how that makes me un-american.

 

[resin_lung]

I look at the whole thing like this: I survived the Reagan years, the 1st Bush years, the Clinton years, the 2nd Bush years, etc. I survived living in Alabama with its Dark Ages drug policies, I've survived Florida and its draconian policies. And I'll survive Trump and his demented little Keebler elf Jeff Sessions.

While I do feel for my brothers that may have their legal status revoked, or limited, or whatever may happen, I will continue on as I always have.

Legalization would be nice. It would be great to not be considered a criminal for growing a freaking plant, but I can continue as I have done indefinitely.

No matter what they do, they have not managed to stop me and they can not stop me. I've played this game for a long time, I know the rules and how get around them.

Nothing changes for me. I will still do what I do, and I see no reason not to.

So instead of worrying about what Trump and Sessions will, or won't do, I will concentrate on what I always do. It's worked for me this long, I see no reason it won't work going forward. It is what it is. There is no other choice but to deal with it.

I totally agree. I've never respected any law enough to not wanna break it. I stopped respecting cops when they stopped giving away dodgers baseball cards in 78-79? I stopped fearing them in '86. it's the fucking craziest story you've ever fucking heard! Movie shit! 100% truth you will not allow yourself to believe! But that's for another time! Haha

It's about the stupidest that don't even know what a crime is! I'm in SoCal so I never did anything more than pass through places like. where you've lived while on vacation.

I don't worry although I'm sure it seems like I freak out. I get happy with CAPS and exclamation marks!!!! HAHA

I'm not as animated as resin_lung is. But I can't just nevermind. I got too much talent I'll never need! haha too much knowledge that can't help everyone but it could easily push even an average problem child right to any parents worst nightmare.

 

[Cannavore]

i didn't say you were, Dan.. Just curious where you fall on other issues since in today's political climate coming out in favor of gay rights don't really mean much when they're already accepted and put into law and even accepted by many on the right these days.
Many of the social liberal/libertarian positions are just flat out populist positions that cross party lines.

as for the unamerican thing... that's what usually happens when people listen to hyper partisan talk radio for their sources of factual information, lol.

 

[packerfan79]

Excuse me? I'm un-american? You don't know jack shit about me. How about wasting some of your precious time on me?

I'm quite Liberal. I think Gay people have the right to get married. I think women have the right to make their own decisions about their body. I think everyone is free do do as they wish as long as they don't harm others.

So what, exactly is it about me that you have a problem with? What makes you the salt of the earth, but makes me un-american?

Come on, what is it that make me un-american?

That wasn't directed at you Dan. If you have issues with my view of the left that's your problem. I was responding to resin lung if you read the post. I truly believe many older liberals believe the rhetoric and are genuine in their belifes of doing good for others. The problem is the the lack of success of liberal policies.the left uses violence to silence opposing views, that is fundamentally un American

 

[Nomad28743]

Great and thoughtful post LocDog, thank you.
As to #4 our money.
I believe Trump should just abolish taxes for all million dollar companies. Many major US companies like Caterpillar pay no taxes and neither should Trump's buddies. If taxes are raised or lowered it makes no difference,,, we just crank up the presses and print all the money we need to run our war machine. In trickle down economics the companies will do the right thing... right? Of course they will just look at history. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know we have such a competent leader the rest of the world is jealous of.

 

[resin_lung]

as for the unamerican thing... that's what usually happens when people listen to hyper partisan talk radio for their sources of factual information, lol.

Phew! I thought I was gonna hafta make a choice!!!!! Haha isn't that how it works these days? hahahaha I'm just kidding. I'd still be your friend. Until the revolution comes!!! Then I'd double cross you first!!! Just so they know I ain't fuckn around!!haha jk

 

[WelderDan]

i didn't say you were, Dan.. Just curious where you fall on other issues since in today's political climate coming out in favor of gay rights don't really mean much when they're already accepted and put into law and even accepted by many on the right these days.
Many of the social liberal/libertarian positions are just flat out populist positions that cross party lines.

as for the unamerican thing... that's what usually happens when people listen to hyper partisan talk radio for their sources of factual information, lol.

Oh I, understand what you were getting at. I know you weren't implying anything bro. We are, and always have been cool.

My issue is that blanket statement he made. Just what is it that makes him a "real american", and what is it that makes me un-american? Because that's some bullshit right there. And I want to hear from him exactly what it is about me that makes me un-american.

I work, I pay my taxes. I watch out for my neighbors. I own a home, my cars and motorcycle are paid off. I stay out of other peoples business. I hunt, I fish, I help my friends when they need it. I have friends across the political spectrum. None of my conservative friends have ever accused me of being un-american, nor have I accused them of being racist bigot misogynist.

 

[WelderDan]

That wasn't directed at you Dan. If you have issues with my view of the left that's your problem. I was responding to resin lung if you read the post. I truly believe many older liberals believe the rhetoric and are genuine in their belifes of doing good for others. The problem is the the lack of success of liberal policies.the left uses violence to silence opposing views, that is fundamentally un American

You made a blanket statement encompassing people you know nothing about. That's no better than me saying righties are racist bigoted misogynists. Are you a racist bigot misogynist?

I'm a lefty. I fall under that blanket statement you made and I take offense at the generalization. Sure, maybe a few on the left use violence. So does a few on the right. And I can back that up with citations. It doesn't make all righties violent, nor does it make all lefties violent, and I think you know that. If you use that metric, then righties are most certainly un-american too, and you can't deny it.

 

[packerfan79]

Oh I, understand what you were getting at. I know you weren't implying anything bro. We are, and always have been cool.

My issue is that blanket statement he made. Just what is it that makes him a "real american", and what is it that makes me un-american? Because that's some bullshit right there. And I want to hear from him exactly what it is about me that makes me un-american.

I work, I pay my taxes. I watch out for my neighbors. I own a home, my cars and motorcycle are paid off. I stay out of other peoples business. I hunt, I fish, I help my friends when they need it. I have friends across the political spectrum. None of my conservative friends have ever accused me of being un-american, nor have I accused them of being racist bigot misogynist.

Dan I never said you were un American. I said The leftists that are using violence to silence opposing views are fundamentally in American, many liberals such as Bill Maher have come out to condemn it. I didn't even say liberals. I said leftist.

 

[resin_lung]

That wasn't directed at you Dan. If you have issues with my view of the left that's your problem. I was responding to resin lung if you read the post. I truly believe many older liberals believe the rhetoric and are genuine in their belifes of doing good for others. The problem is the the lack of success of liberal policies.the left uses violence to silence opposing views, that is fundamentally un American

Did somebody say my name????

Anne coulter canceled! Her backers lost interest when they got their story. They never even scheduled it. Berkley did change the date but that's so they could have maybe tryed to get more cops.

In the end they told her the truth and she freaked!Rightfully so. But she's a trooper and changed her story by the second go around. Wanna know what they told her? Think real hard?

She at first blamed her republican student club for giving up. She said it wasn't the school. Then she got back in board.

Think hard packer. Nobody has reported it so you'll never get it. I know because that last line....

the left uses violence to silence opposing views
that is fundamentally un American.

Good lord man.... slow and bouncy!!! Just how I like em!!!

Not only is this what I was saying about you earlier. they have Mr been running with that one all day. No.1. But you left clear evidence of your quick search/cut/paste with a poss minor mod as a later save just incase you get cornered.

I hate helping monkeys evolve but never leave double spaces in the middle on scentences. Even if at the beginning your showing your hand.

I've talked to you about lumping people together before but like, you told me... blah blah blah wonk wonk! Basically you WERE referring to welderdan. See you don't get to decide who gets offended? You don't get to say "liberals are" and that's my opinion! and then change it to not completely alienate yourself. Don't go changing your view because dan wrote in his outside voice.

Or is that the violence you and Anne are referring too. Because that's all the violence Anne got! Mean loud words=violence

Still not what she freaked out about!

 

[packerfan79]

Did somebody say my name????

Anne coulter canceled! Her backers lost interest when they got their story. They never even scheduled it. Berkley did change the date but that's so they could have maybe tryed to get more cops.

In the end they told her the truth and she freaked!Rightfully so. But she's a trooper and changed her story by the second go around. Wanna know what they told her? Think real hard?

She at first blamed her republican student club for giving up. She said it wasn't the school. Then she got back in board.

Think hard packer. Nobody has reported it so you'll never get it. I know because that last line....

the left uses violence to silence opposing views
that is fundamentally un American.

Good lord man.... slow and bouncy!!! Just how I like em!!!

Not only is this what I was saying about you earlier. they have Mr been running with that one all day. No.1. But you left clear evidence of your quick search/cut/paste with a poss minor mod as a later save just incase you get cornered.

I hate helping monkeys evolve but never leave double spaces in the middle on scentences. Even if at the beginning your showing your hand.

I've talked to you about lumping people together before but like, you told me... blah blah blah wonk wonk! Basically you WERE referring to welderdan. See you don't get to decide who gets offended? You don't get to say "liberals are" and that's my opinion! and then change it to not completely alienate yourself. Don't go changing your view because dan wrote in his outside voice.

Or is that the violence you and Anne are referring too. Because that's all the violence Anne got! Mean loud words=violence

Still not what she freaked out about!

Resin I was clearly referencing you and you just like to start shit because I don't believe your CNN MSNBC vomit. I have no personal issues with anyone who can act like an adult. It drives you crazy that you have no facts to back up your argument. That's not my problem. I wish dan and the rest of the people on this thread and the mag in general the best. Even you resin lung.

 

[resin_lung]

From suggestion box. 2-3 weeks ago

I have some ideas regarding political discussions. American politics in particular.

They get shut down so fast it seems because of all the name calling and generalizations.

I'm guilty of all of it. In fact I still have a few apologies left to make for arguments that got out of control during the November elections.

I can't help but wonder if words like democrat and republican (left/right/liberal/conservative) aren't more trouble than they are worth?

I think using the names of politicians/elected officials or the office they hold would be better for a few reasons.

First, it would go along way to show that a member not only cares but actually knows, at least a little about what they're adding.

"the republicans have been undermining every attempt to reform our cannabis laws"

The above statement can be made by anybody. No real knowledge is needed. Nothing will be learned. Other than how the poster FEELS about republicans.

Feelings.....Nothing more than Feelings....

Its also such a blanket statement that it's bound to heat things up. There are republicans on this site who would not appreciate being accused of undermining cannabis reform.

"Sen. McCain and Sen. McConnell have been undermining every attempt to reform our cannabis laws"

This statement is so much better. It can make a point. I can try to disprove it. I can try and defend it. It takes more than feelings to make. It keeps the discussion focused on those who are relevant and not about 50% of the population.

If it isn't already known if they are democrats or republicans then it can easily be found out by anybody who cares enough to know. If they don't then perhaps they shouldn't be posting in that particular thread.

Everybody's vote definitely matters
Everybody's opinion might not
Everybody's feelings don't

I have more thoughts on the subject but....
Zzzz Zzzz

I wrote this specifically because of packerfan and yessum! I gave you the link and asked you to read it, TWICE! Some people refuse to be helped.

Check how yessum popped in this thread to drop some fkn KNOWLEGE
and then a post later he's telling me he doesn't even really care about it, but I should get a life! He may be right but coming from him after that..... argggh!

 

[WelderDan]

Dan I never said you were un American. I said The leftists that are using violence to silence opposing views are fundamentally in American, many liberals such as Bill Maher have come out to condemn it. I didn't even say liberals. I said leftist.

Fair enough. Then we can agree that the Alt-Right (or anyone else) that uses violence to silence opposing views is un-American. Because the leftist sure as hell don't have a monopoly on using violence to silence opposing views. It is, unfortunately, a tool used by the extreme on both sides.

Glad we cleared that up.