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[zanog]

I guess im just making fun. It went from something like "I'll tar and feather" to something like "maybe we'll hold a vote".CannaRed out

If sounded harsh it was not my intention. Sorry

Everyone present are big boys and if they can't defend themselves against an occasional gang bang, I'm thinking they should stay off of forums.

"Gang bang" can't sound too positive in a non-sexual context either (i meant this as a joke and not a "told you so" like thing)

 

[Gray Wolf]

I was talking about perception, and you should make a poll!

Of course I know of gang and it's uses. But think about this sentence: "my son joined a gang" for example, hearing it how probable is the positive meaning of gang? It works subconsciously, and if the "gang" delivered the bad modifier for the good life... Proven fact that first impressions are basis for decisions by most people, even thou I'm not one of them, I see it all the time. Companies rebrand themselves, instead of trying to fix reputation, so it must be easier, don't you think?

I'm open to debate about the effect of names in marketing.

Finally, legalization happened where you live, I'm sure people would like to see scientist in lab coat and glasses holing a vial in connection with weed, not outlaw sounding things like gang.

I might be wrong, I 'd be curious what the poll's result would be.

You could also be right about a poll, especially when you consider not only all the permutations of the word in Americanized Queens English, but how it translates into all the other languages present on this forum.

Giving advice on names is far enough removed from my areas of expertise, and this threads title, that I'm not as curious as you, so would be disinclined to participate.

What I found with companies that I personally founded, and the myriad of companies that I dealt with over the years, regardless of what we named them, our reputation eventually followed.

It is the reputation that adds value to the name and is why they are often a companies greatest asset and major portion of their value.

As you note, salvaging the remaining company assets by rebranding, can be a sagacious business move if the company name has been devalued by scandal.

"Under new management", is another way.

Bankruptcy to avoid litigation, and picking up the assets for chump change for rebranding is yet another.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, TT actually has a good reputation in the market place, and among their peers up to this point. There are reasons for that reputation, so it might be premature to make assumptions about what happened, until we hear answers to my questions regarding their actions since then.

 

[zanog]

Giving advice on names is far enough removed from my areas of expertise, and this threads title, that I'm not as curious as you, so would be disinclined to participate.

I realized that I took the conversation off thread, sorry. I think Future should make a poll thou.

 

[Gray Wolf]

"Gang bang" can't sound too positive in a non-sexual context either (i meant this as a joke and not a "told you so" like thing)

Imagine how it might feel to be the person in the middle taking the pummeling.

 

[zanog]

Imagine how it might feel to be the person in the middle taking the pummeling.

I think it really depends. LOL

There should be a "Did you find this post funny?" also.

 

[Future4200]

I should make a poll about what?

My IG post mentioned a poll to vote on bringing TT back into the gang. But after delivering their prepared message and my comments to the GLG members, it's overwhelmingly obvious the GLG members want nothing to do with TT, so that won't be happening.

 

[zanog]

I should make a poll about what?

My IG post mentioned a poll to vote on bringing TT back into the gang. But after delivering their prepared message and my comments to the GLG members, it's overwhelmingly obvious the GLG members want nothing to do with TT, so that won't be happening.

Oh, god no... read back some. It's not about that!


To clarify:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8591536&postcount=897

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8591557&postcount=899


and I meant a simple poll like threads have sometimes.

 

[G.O. Joe]

What we want with those mass spectra for 5 points on GW's gas chromatogram is either a better library to look in, or someone who could glance at them and tell what it is almost instantly. There's a lot of things it isn't, and it's shown that the components have a lot in common except for weight. The question I have is why all of them show nothing with the weight of 1 or 2 and almost no 3 carbons produced or at least ionized. That's the most glaring difference you'll see in comparison with MS of the parent C19-24 alkanes.

 

[Gray Wolf]

I actually used up my charm points, as well as my attaboy credits, to get us this far without spending handsome sums, and have already profusely thanked our benefactor and promised them peace to focus on their own business issues.

Neither of them take throwing a brother under the bus casually, and both would insist on being positive before voicing their professional opinions on something that critical.

When I pushed my doctorate for a professional opinion without HPLC/MS, his response was:

"I couldn't say what the source of this material is. All I can say is its contains higher boiling point alkanes."

My samples substantiated EN's point with regard to labeling, and highlighted the question of the long term effects of vaporizing and inhaling the higher boiling point Alkanes, regardless of their source.

I now have my bag of popcorn, and am among those watching to see what will evolve from our's and TT's new found awareness:

 

[AgentPothead]

 

[Mr D]

Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.

 

[beta]

Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.

Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? People who aren't educated about something tend to think they know more about it BECAUSE of how little they know.

That's like you with nutrition. You speak as if you have some knowledge or authority, but it is very VERY clear that you are talking out of your ass.

imo you shouldn't say things are true when you don't know if they are.

Type 2 Diabetes is NOT caused by processing or fortification. Not even a little bit.

This kind of misinformation isn't just annoying, it's straight up dangerous.

 

[zanog]

Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? People who aren't educated about something tend to think they know more about it BECAUSE of how little they know.
That's like you with nutrition. You speak as if you have some knowledge or authority, but it is very VERY clear that you are talking out of your ass.
imo you shouldn't say things are true when you don't know if they are.
Type 2 Diabetes is NOT caused by processing or fortification. Not even a little bit.
This kind of misinformation isn't just annoying, it's straight up dangerous.

I second this, absolutely, you can sound credible for some people because you are confident about stuff you can't prove. It is huge responsibility, think about it.

Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Anyways, I don't know about toxic(there is legally and practically), the answer you were looking for is money, one of the main motivators for anything.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Can someone tell me the logic behind processing flowers in to a toxic mix to vape?

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.

Good questions, though some of the support reasoning falls apart under close scrutiny.

Why not just smoke the weed!!

One reason for me is the bronchitis that smoking weed introduced into my life.

That moves us to dabbing instead, which has been considerably less invasive, and then to e-cigs, which is probably what this discussion is more about.

My read, is convenience and marketing.

And in this thread, the question is not just the Sweet Mary's Charms vaporized, but more specifically, the available dilutents under discussion.

A step beyond that, is the question of what if no dilutents are used, but terpenes are added, and that leads us to the question of what terpenes and how much.............

 

[zanog]

Good questions, though some of the support reasoning falls apart under close scrutiny.

Just the one question, and one of us misunderstood it. I was thinking that because of the thread provides context, why would TT do such thing. Maybe I was wrong about the question.

Can't we try to make a terpene profiles(simplified like others do) and mix according to real strains terpene content? As I understand diluent is for cutting right? Distillates work without it in a cart, not too thick? right?

 

[CannaRed]

A step beyond that, is the question of what if no dilutents are used, but terpenes are added, and that leads us to the question of what terpenes and how much.............

Very good question. Tests need to be done to see if its unhealthy above a certain percentage.
Not sure how one would go about that. It would take many subjects and many years.

That was supposed to be the whole reason to use Viscosity. It was only terpenes.

 

[Mr D]

Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? People who aren't educated about something tend to think they know more about it BECAUSE of how little they know.

That's like you with nutrition. You speak as if you have some knowledge or authority, but it is very VERY clear that you are talking out of your ass.

imo you shouldn't say things are true when you don't know if they are.

Type 2 Diabetes is NOT caused by processing or fortification. Not even a little bit.

This kind of misinformation isn't just annoying, it's straight up dangerous.

Wow thanks for enlightening me I'm off to stock up on Count Chocula and Ramen noodles.

You are a condescending little prick.

Studies led by researchers from Monash University and the University of Queensland have linked the most common heat-based methods of food processing to increased insulin sensitivity and type 2 diabetes. This is due to the high levels of glycation end-products in foods treated using these methods. While the research was focused within the country of Australia, the data can be extrapolated to any region where these food processing techniques are utilized.

 

[zanog]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18331228
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_glycation_end-product

Mr D, you are might be right about that, still not real conclusion, but logical by what I have just read about it.

But this is a bad article about this: https://www.monash.edu/news/articles/food-processing-linked-to-an-increase-in-type-2-diabetes the wikipedia link above has couple of good citations about diabetes.

Reminds me of grains that are processed in to unhealthy crap then "Fortified" with some of the vitamins and minerals stripped out during processing. End result is type 2 diabetes.

Minerals and vitamins has nothing to do with it, at least directly:

Advanced glycation end products (AGEs) are proteins or lipids that become glycated as a result of exposure to sugars.[1] They can be a factor in aging and in the development or worsening of many degenerative diseases, such as diabetes, atherosclerosis, chronic kidney disease, and Alzheimer's disease.[2]

 

[zanog]

Wow thanks for enlightening me I'm off to stock up on Count Chocula and Ramen noodles.
You are a condescending little prick.

Even thou you are right by the statement "AGEs may have a role in developing diabetes" all your other statements are false.

And both of you were a little out of line I think, but it wasn't that bad I guess.

And let's not take the thread off track!

 

[beta]

Wow thanks for enlightening me I'm off to stock up on Count Chocula and Ramen noodles.

You are a condescending little prick.

Medical misinformation kills people, and I have zero patience for it. If you don't want to be treated in a condescending way, don't be so reckless with your words.