Don Chocolate
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How bad would it effect the plants if I transplanted from 1 gal. to 3 gal. the same day I started 12/12? I would like to veg some in the new containers but space is an issue.
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transplanting and flowering same day?
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there is awalys transplant shock the feeder roots are very sensitive. its not going to make a big difference but will slow growth for a couple days. you can avoid this by cutting the bottin of your current pot out and simple putting it in the larger container. no shcok with this method just dont cut the roots.
jcsmooth
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It's no optimal, but I think that when you've got to do it you have to do it.
The only thing that I'd be concerned about is that if you switch to 12/12 lighting and bump your soil capacity from 1 gal to 3 gal, it is extremely unlikely that your plants' roots will fill in the extra space. In other words, you're wasting some soil.
I like to have my flowering plants to have a developed root system, not only to utilize what I'm paying for, but the wet-dry cycle seems more healthy.
I grow in a peat based mix, and I find that when there's a healthy root system in it, it holds more water and the plant's overall health is better than when I've got a small plant in a large pot (which doesn't seem to hold much water and suffers a little because the roots don't have access to water but the bottom of the pot may still be wet, leading me to think that I shouldn't water again).
Ack...sorry for the rambling, but do you get what I mean?
Maybe you could try putting all your plants into a soil bed, like a rubbermaid tub with lots of holes drilled for drainage. You can fill it with as much or as little soil as needed
Good luck and I hope everything works out for ya,
JC
The only thing that I'd be concerned about is that if you switch to 12/12 lighting and bump your soil capacity from 1 gal to 3 gal, it is extremely unlikely that your plants' roots will fill in the extra space. In other words, you're wasting some soil.
I like to have my flowering plants to have a developed root system, not only to utilize what I'm paying for, but the wet-dry cycle seems more healthy.
I grow in a peat based mix, and I find that when there's a healthy root system in it, it holds more water and the plant's overall health is better than when I've got a small plant in a large pot (which doesn't seem to hold much water and suffers a little because the roots don't have access to water but the bottom of the pot may still be wet, leading me to think that I shouldn't water again).
Ack...sorry for the rambling, but do you get what I mean?
Maybe you could try putting all your plants into a soil bed, like a rubbermaid tub with lots of holes drilled for drainage. You can fill it with as much or as little soil as needed
Good luck and I hope everything works out for ya,
JC
i dont think thats true roots still grow explosivly durung flowering if uve ever done a sog and only veg for a week or even less when u harvest u will notice a full compliment of roots filling the entire container. so i dont think there is any truth to that assertion.
CaptJamesTKirk
Active member
It's a bad plan and if you choose to do so, I'd almost guarantee the roots will be about what you have now.
The plant will do best if it has a good chance to recover and restart growing phase
The plant will do best if it has a good chance to recover and restart growing phase
If the transplant is done correctly, the plant will not even know it has been done. Why does everyone make such a big deal about transplanting? Transplanting is helping the plant. If the plant is ready, it will thank you for doing it.... These girls were transplanted the day they were put to flower...
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jj the root hairs are incredibly sensitive. will it kill your plant no way, will it slow growth for a day or two yes it will. like you said if you do it right the stress is minimal but there is always some. i like to give plants a week or so to adapt to their new pots. if i didnt do this would my yeild suck? no but i probably wouldnt get the very most out of my plants.
I have removed a rootbound plant from its container, tapped the rootball to loosen the roots, place into fresh soil and had the plants grow 3 inches in 2 days when put to flower.
There are hundreds of thousands of roots and hairs on a plant. If kept in a smaller area then they should be in, it hurts the plant.
Why does transplanting on the day you go to 12/12 hurt it worse than any other day? Plants have larger growth spurts when put to flower, then they do during veg. You are much better off transplanting the day you switch the lights then to wait until they start flowering.....
There are hundreds of thousands of roots and hairs on a plant. If kept in a smaller area then they should be in, it hurts the plant.
Why does transplanting on the day you go to 12/12 hurt it worse than any other day? Plants have larger growth spurts when put to flower, then they do during veg. You are much better off transplanting the day you switch the lights then to wait until they start flowering.....
CaptJamesTKirk
Active member
It seems to me - and I don't have any photos or documented info,, but,,
I have done the slam and slap. Slam it in a bigger pot and slap it into flower and spent the next 9 weeks nursing a sick plant - and when harvested - the roots were the size of the pot before transplant.
It's not a one time thing but on average, my plants do FAR better when acclimated prior to life altering changes.
and,, ya don't say nuttin about "when done correctly" or rootbound for that matter originally. - it reminds me of,,,,, oh yeah,,, slam and slap. Sure they flower, is it best utilazation?
I just transplanted 9 seedlings tonight and moved them to MH - - a couple have perked, but - I'd be willing to bet in 7 days, --- no I take that back,,,,,,, - - but they are staying in veg cycle
I have done the slam and slap. Slam it in a bigger pot and slap it into flower and spent the next 9 weeks nursing a sick plant - and when harvested - the roots were the size of the pot before transplant.
It's not a one time thing but on average, my plants do FAR better when acclimated prior to life altering changes.
and,, ya don't say nuttin about "when done correctly" or rootbound for that matter originally. - it reminds me of,,,,, oh yeah,,, slam and slap. Sure they flower, is it best utilazation?
I just transplanted 9 seedlings tonight and moved them to MH - - a couple have perked, but - I'd be willing to bet in 7 days, --- no I take that back,,,,,,, - - but they are staying in veg cycle
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i've transplanted and went 12/12 many times heck ive done worse and have no i'll effects my rootballs fill in the new container n/p
heres a schroom plant was only in 2 gal grow bag approx 14 days
heres the most ive done before 12/12 started a multi FIM every branch that was large enough
31 days l8r in flower
no shock here the DR's in lol just becareful when ya transplant i place my hand over top of dirt place fingers around main stem fip container over gently. shake tap squeeze gently untill it just falls out flip back upright and gently blow any dirt off the plant
. now carefully place in new container, i'll place some dirt in gently tamp it down not heavly compact it in bottom then place plant in at desired depth. now fill in around plant gently tampn every few inchs of soil down as ya go, when ya 1st water the fresh soil dont flood it gently pour it
heres a schroom plant was only in 2 gal grow bag approx 14 days
heres the most ive done before 12/12 started a multi FIM every branch that was large enough
31 days l8r in flower
no shock here the DR's in lol just becareful when ya transplant i place my hand over top of dirt place fingers around main stem fip container over gently. shake tap squeeze gently untill it just falls out flip back upright and gently blow any dirt off the plant
. now carefully place in new container, i'll place some dirt in gently tamp it down not heavly compact it in bottom then place plant in at desired depth. now fill in around plant gently tampn every few inchs of soil down as ya go, when ya 1st water the fresh soil dont flood it gently pour it
i dont think u guys seem to understand our argument. we arent saying that your plant will die or even suffer greatly. we are talking about what is optimum. you guys are presenting arguments like "i transplanted on the day i turned to 12/12 and look it grew roots" well no duh. we arent saying that you cant do it but that you will most likly see better results if you give the plant time to adjust to its new surroundings.
thedarkknight
Member
hmmm... if you flip just rooted clones then they will definately grow more roots because they HAVE to, they simple don't have enough to grow and finish.... but but if you flip a 3g that has just been transplanted into a 5g, than most of that extra 2 g is just waste because the roots won't grow much because there is already a lot of root mass. i've done the 1.6g to 3g before with straight flip and most of the soil was wasted, most but not all... it definately benefited the plants/yield however more/any veg time in the new containers would have been a benefit.......... but that goes without saying since all plants grow if there not rootbound.
my bottom line - veg em if you can. Oh yeah, about shock... just give them some b vitamin like superthrive or b52, you can just foliar this to reduce the transplant shock
my bottom line - veg em if you can. Oh yeah, about shock... just give them some b vitamin like superthrive or b52, you can just foliar this to reduce the transplant shock
G
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I agree with JJ scorpio,the plant will never know anything except its able to stretch now AAHHhhhhhhh..After hundreds of transplants,I have yet to see "transplant shock"I dont know what it looks like or what it is and I dont want to know.I know what you mean though jojoco,it would be optimum to veg in the new container for a week or so which is how I usually do it,but going 12/12 the same day will cause no ill effects that I've seen.I wouldnt say there's any real "correct" way to do it transplanting is just not a big issue.
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they wont be harmd in any way...just a little stress...its just that you transplant....and put into 12/12 you are giving them room for streching...if you would veg them a week or more in that 3 gallon you will surtenly boost your yield in every way....
it is best 2 repot a little 'before' flower so you can give them roots time 2 grow out in the pot...
it is best 2 repot a little 'before' flower so you can give them roots time 2 grow out in the pot...
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CaptJamesTKirk
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Core said:
little contradictory?
other than that Mrs. Lincoln,, how was the play?
I think it boils down to how you transplant and the pots you use. If I squeeze the lip of my pots, the plant comes out with no force. I have had pots that I have had to be a little rough to get them out. I simply let them fall out, and if they arent rootbound I just set then into the fresh dirt and fill around them. I also never water them the first 24 hrs so the roots will go looking for water....
