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moose eater

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Finished cooking off the first batch's solvent indoors last night, with the -serious- kitchen exhaust fan (max cfm output of 465 not withstanding pressures and resistance) on 3rd speed, the kitchen fire extinguisher at the ready, and the hot plate cranked up WAY high. Temps in the solvent were -incredibly- cooler than the temp of the actual surface of the hot-plate. Like, even with the hot plate cranked up to close to 160 C., the surface of the solvent in the pan barely registered 70-74 C toward the end, until evaporation was completed, when the extract's temps rapidly climbed toward 95 to 98 C., when I shut 'er down.

I checked the surface of the hot-plate with both IR heat guns, just to make sure that the thing wasn't as wonky as the last $50 Chinese-made, piece of shit, 'laboratory hot-plate' I'd gotten from Vevor, which had absolutely no accuracy or predictability in the rheostat's graduation AT ALL. Sure enough, the IR heat guns registered from 0 to 3 degrees difference between the setting on the digital controller, and the registered temperature on the guns when reading the actual hot-plate's heating surface..

Looked into a calibrated, NIST-certified IR heat gun (in between tending the pan of extract and solvent), rather than the relatively inexpensive ones I have, and, if one's not careful, they can spend a LOT of money on such an item. Found one that meets the requirements, and costs all of about $165 USD, with serial-number-correlated NIST certificate of accuracy. Don't want to spend upwards of $400 to $500 on an IR heat gun at this time, but man (!!), even a bit of variance can be a pain in the ass re. uncertainty, unless just watching the solvent thicken, and doing caveman-style corroboration/calibration, such as smelling for any essence of ethanol in the vapor and watching the bubbles, especially near the end..

Cut the extract with about (+/-) 50% volume with organic virgin coconut oil, and the resulting concoction is still relatively thick when at room temperature (~70 f.), but wanted to be better able to load the stuff into syringes in order to load '0' capsules, and if it's not thinned, it won't flow well, leading sometimes to over-filled capsules. Will use a small cooler with a hot water bottle in it to rest the syringes of extract, to keep them fluid enough to load the caps when that process is underway.

Getting the hang of this new, fairly accurate, lab-grade hot-plate, and the correlation between baseline heat temps of the surface of the heating plate, and the effects and temps of a coolant like ethanol being used, is an abrupt learning curve. It's OK to leave the thing unattended for very short periods, providing fire's not an immediate issue, but when it gets close to having reached the end of evaporation, a person has to be RIGHT there, as the transition and heat changes become fairly rapid or abrupt.

Before the evaporation had finished last night, I licked off a spoon that had remnants of ethanol and extract on it, a typical cookie-makers breech of diet, so to speak, though the amount of residue on the parfait spoon I used was minimal, and I'd say that at least some amount of decarboxylation had occurred, despite the process having maintained the solvent at a low temp, relatively speaking. The 'sampling of residue' resulted in a decent sleep last night, at least for a few hours, better than I've had in many months. Though I still woke up briefly in the middle of the night to do chores, etc., that had been skipped as a result of the unplanned relaxation.

Now, cuttings still desperately need to be taken, and the 2nd round of extract prepared for, as well as loading last night's results into capsules. Or, in other words, chores, chores, and more chores.
 

moose eater

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I filled in the forms... it said awaiting approval. I never got an email, but when I refreshed hours later... Banned for SPAM.

I switched to another browser on another network... I can still view but it's not how I use my setup.

That's 3 sites I'm banned from. Each with an equally ridiculous story. I think if you are not banned from at least one pot site, you must be doing something wrong :)


You can't possibly have the time to surf other sites, having to moderate us unruly lot lol

It's possible your IP/email address has been used by a third party, to spoof, spam, or other nefarious acts online in the past? I know of similar bans or resulting 'sequestering' of IP/email addresses experienced by others, after a third party had 'soiled' their IP/email addy due to such deeds, with no fault what so ever on the part of the actual address/IP owner..
 

Weezard

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"It's OK to leave the thing unattended for very short periods, providing fire's not an immediate issue, but when it gets close to having reached the end of evaporation, a person has to be RIGHT there, as the transition and heat changes become fairly rapid or abrupt."

Yup.
I do have a suggestion.
Considering the quality of your raw material and your attention to detail, #0 caps are much too big. I use #4 and, with yourt 50% dilution you could most likely use $3 caps.

I quit diluting because it made the filling more difficult.
Kept "jumping the gun". I control viscosity with heat alone.
Stealing your hot water bottle in a cooler idea. Mahalo.

It is because of evaporation cooling that a super accurate IR meter is a waste of money. It's just a ballpark reading to tell you when to start paying close attention, yah?

As in, "just watching the solvent thicken, and doing caveman-style corroboration/calibration, such as smelling for any essence of ethanol in the vapor and watching the bubbles, especially near the end.."

You got this brother.
Aloha,
Wee
 

Green Squall

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Are we talkin about forums we're banned from lol? I'm banned from Survivalist Boards. Years back, I was interested in food preservation and learned a lot, but the homophobia and veiled racism got to be too much, so I told them all to go fuck themselves.

Besides that, maybe a Reddit sub or two. Lots of Mods on power trips over there lol.
 

f-e

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It's possible your IP/email address has been used by a third party, to spoof, spam, or other nefarious acts online in the past? I know of similar bans or resulting 'sequestering' of IP/email addresses experienced by others, after a third party had 'soiled' their IP/email addy due to such deeds, with no fault what so ever on the part of the actual address/IP owner..

I think it's the email I used. I'm not sure why email verification is expected when a site is expected to be protecting it's users, not keeping records. I used a disposable account in Holland though. No easy way to trace it to any user. It wasn't an automated process though, it took hours. I have since found it can see a particular browser I'm using. Not my basic choice ones, but one punted as secure. It holds no session data, it claims. Not a single cookie is stored. I have yet to restart it though. I have tabs I'm using. My other browsers are fine, but I won't use them.
 

EV3R

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Giving myself a courtesy lung break. I think I was hitting that bong a little too hard lately. 5 days without a puff 😅

5.5 years sober, 10 years cigarette free, 21 years clean from the hard stuff. But I don't think I'm ever giving up the herb
 

moose eater

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"It's OK to leave the thing unattended for very short periods, providing fire's not an immediate issue, but when it gets close to having reached the end of evaporation, a person has to be RIGHT there, as the transition and heat changes become fairly rapid or abrupt."

Yup.
I do have a suggestion.
Considering the quality of your raw material and your attention to detail, #0 caps are much too big. I use #4 and, with yourt 50% dilution you could most likely use $3 caps.

I quit diluting because it made the filling more difficult.
Kept "jumping the gun". I control viscosity with heat alone.
Stealing your hot water bottle in a cooler idea. Mahalo.

It is because of evaporation cooling that a super accurate IR meter is a waste of money. It's just a ballpark reading to tell you when to start paying close attention, yah?

As in, "just watching the solvent thicken, and doing caveman-style corroboration/calibration, such as smelling for any essence of ethanol in the vapor and watching the bubbles, especially near the end.."

You got this brother.
Aloha,
Wee

The 'hot water bottle in the cooler' trick has been used to transport cuttings across country, too, in the bush, during the later, moderately cold part of Winter, though scouting for days with -some- degree of warmth in them. We'd put a hand towel on the bottom of a small swing-arm cooler, then the hot water bottle, then put another hand towel over the hot water bottle. Cuttings secured in a small plywood case, and try not to hit any bumps too fast or too hard. Works really slick, though not a problem you're apt to have.

Out of the first batch of ~9 oz. of flowers, and using an approximation for level on the caps, I got enough caps to last 117 days (?), @ 2 caps per day. (*I think that was the number, anyway; I got burned out about 1/2 way through the process of loading caps).

And yes, I had two 20cc plastic syringes, both by the same maker, same source, etc. One was new and one was previously used, but cleaned well before this use.

Not sure, but I think the final cleaning of the used syringe, by placing a bit of 99.9% isopropyl alcohol into it, and plunging it through, then rinsing with H2O, then drying.. Anyway, I believe the isopropyl caused the rubber tip of the plunger in the used syringe to swell, so it required far more pressure to cause it to exude into the caps.

I finished squeezing that syringe's contents into caps, and grabbed the second one, and began to plunge a cap full.... only to have it expel the extract FAR faster, and in greater volume than the first one. Not the first time that's happened, and likely not the last, but what a pain in the ass!!

So I may try to swell the tips of the plungers I'm using, to see if I can intentionally create some resistance that not only makes the thing less sensitive, but also better avoids squirting medicine all over the place.

I bet someplace there's a handy, better-regulated machine that fills caps with extract. But I bet it wastes too much, too. As it is, I don't have to eat any capsules for a day or 2, as there's a bowl and pan with extract residue, that will provide a number of proper size doses, simply by smearing a finger along the inside of which ever container.
 

armedoldhippy

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moose, alcohol will make most rubber compounds swell up. that's why they recommend pure gasoline in all small engines, they don't have the special resistant rubber compounds in gaskets & seals that newer cars have.
 

TNTBudSticker

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I was watching a short clip about "Good Will Hunting | 'My Boy's Wicked Smart' (HD) - Matt Damon, Ben Affleck | MIRAMAX"


/watch?v=hIdsjNGCGz4

And Fauci walked away.........with the Public as Matt Damon
 

f-e

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reCAPTCHA

Worst thing about the internet. So obviously google have bought it and shoved it in my face everywhere. Has that shit ever worked? I just spent 20 mins on one, after what felt like 15 minutes. So a literal half hour. Then the moment I ask for an audio puzzle instead... I'm seen as automated and blocked from further tries.

Worst thing about the internet since flash was picked up by adobe. Made a must have, and allowed in a virus every week.


Needs fixing with heavy artillery
 

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