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Porky82

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Gry said:
What a curious perspective. I recall earlier days in the space race, when they did not do
live launch broadcasts, because so damned many failed. I recall the progression as
they did better with the passage of time. What I don't recall, was the media fawning over Walter
Von Braun with each success, to the extent you insist on fawning over Musk. I believe that
Von Braun was far more deserving of such recognition than Musk could ever dream of being.
I am curious as to why exactly you think that Musk deserves such credit for the return of
the astronauts.
Russia has done a fine job of bringing them back for us for quite some time now,
at a fraction of the cost.
If you wish to agree with me on something, perhaps it might be that it was rotten
to keep the astronauts up there as long as we did in order to showcase the new American
retrieval method, failing to mention that it costs vastly more than we paid to have Russia
bring them back for us.
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Old Zac couldn't possibly comprehend this mate let alone reply sensibly as it goes against his Fox news indoctrination.
 
tobedetermined

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Gry said:

U.S. could lose democracy status, says global watchdog​


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"What is an 'electoral autocracy'?

In an electoral autocracy, you can vote, you can protest, you can criticize the government — but at a price.

That price, Miller said, is the fear of retaliation: losing your job, public funding or a contract. Over time, fear takes hold, and people — including powerful media owners — start to self-censor."


Gee, isn't this exactly where the US is right now . . .
 
zachrockbadenof

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Gry said:
you insist on fawning over Musk. I believe that
Von Braun was far more deserving of such recognition than Musk could ever dream of being.
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walter didn't bring them home... musk did
Gry said:
I am curious as to why exactly you think that Musk deserves such credit for the return of
the astronauts.
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see above
Gry said:
Russia has done a fine job of bringing them back for us for quite some time now,
at a fraction of the cost.
If you wish to agree with me on something, perhaps it might be that it was rotten
to keep the astronauts up there as long as we did in order to showcase the new American
retrieval method, failing to mention that it costs vastly more than we paid to have Russia
bring them back for us.
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so they were kept up in space when the russians could have brought them back earlier??
 
Gry

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zachrockbadenof said:
walter didn't bring them home... musk did

see above

so they were kept up in space when the russians could have brought them back earlier??
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They arrived back in an incredibly expensive spacecraft built by a corporation that Musk managed to associate himself with, much as he did with an electric car company that he neither conceived nor built.
It is a combination of money and political horsepower which made this possible, not genius or heroic
multitasking on the part of elon. The Russians have had them to use on demand for years.
They could have done so sooner and at a fraction of the cost.
Am reasonably certain that we could agree that we each see things from a vastly different perspective.
 
Jericho Mile

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Gry said:
They arrived back in an incredibly expensive spacecraft built by a corporation that Musk managed to associate himself with, much as he did with an electric car company that he neither conceived nor built.
It is a combination of money and political horsepower which made this possible, not genius or heroic
multitasking on the part of elon. The Russians have had them to use on demand for years.
They could have done so sooner and at a fraction of the cost.
Am reasonably certain that we could agree that we each see things from a vastly different perspective.
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….you’ll find no good in anything that deters you from your staunch views. You are not in possession of your wits, sir.
 
zachrockbadenof

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Gry said:
They arrived back in an incredibly expensive spacecraft built by a corporation that Musk managed to associate himself with, much as he did with an electric car company that he neither conceived nor built.
It is a combination of money and political horsepower which made this possible, not genius or heroic
multitasking on the part of elon. The Russians have had them to use on demand for years.
They could have done so sooner and at a fraction of the cost.
Am reasonably certain that we could agree that we each see things from a vastly different perspective.
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so why didn't we use the russian's??? they were up there stranded well b4 trump became president..
 
Jericho Mile

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Cannavore

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zachrockbadenof said:
how about a thumbs up for elon for bringing the astronauts home safe... u are beating him up (rightfully or wrongfully, depending on your point of view)... we should be able to agree he did a good job getting em back...
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it's so easy to trick you lobotomites. i should become a far right grifter.
 
Gry

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zachrockbadenof said:
so why didn't we use the russian's??? they were up there stranded well b4 trump became president..
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A question well put. Any time our country does something, it seems like there are a number of reasons as to why any given route or means is selected. In this case, it would appear the thought was, it would be a good idea to keep our personal up there longer than needed, so their return would be part of showcasing the privatizing of our efforts in space. Which, was the point.
 
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