top of the heap to third world status in one generation

[Three Berries]

University courses are taught on the subject, I have posted them here repeatedly.
What you have provided us with is yet another demonstration that you lack enough care for
our history to have taken one.

The Universities is how they start the corruption of the young minds. Nothing but left wing ideology. They don't call them Liberal Arts for nothing. It's the old History is written by the victors. We are right now about to bust up the CIA and all the other world wide IC agencies that blackmail the worlds politicians and now corporations into leading us into one world communisms.

What if Trump has been working with the FBI since the 70s to rout the corruption?

Does you articles include how Mayor Daley threw the election for JFK?

 

[Gry]

The Universities is how they start the corruption of the young minds. Nothing but left wing ideology. They don't call them Liberal Arts for nothing. It's the old History is written by the victors. We are right now about to bust up the CIA and all the other world wide IC agencies that blackmail the worlds politicians and now corporations into leading us into one world communisms.

What if Trump has been working with the FBI since the 70s to rout the corruption?

Does you articles include how Mayor Daley threw the election for JFK?

About to bust up the CIA... You have disconnected yourself from reality.

 

[armedoldhippy]

About to bust up the CIA... You have disconnected yourself from reality.

LOL! like he ever had a grip to start with.

Chicago has long been infamous for the extent of it's corruption.

too wordy, i tightened it up a bit. hope you don't mind... their corruption comes from the top like everywhere else. not LEOs fault.

 

[Three Berries]

About to bust up the CIA... You have disconnected yourself from reality.

What was that letter that 51 ex IC agents signed?

 

[Three Berries]

About to bust up the CIA... You have disconnected yourself from reality.

So you are a supporter of the CIA and the way they run the world?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

If you have the need to ask the question, then you should probably reread the thread.

 

[Switcher56]

Trust me I am from the government!

 

[Gry]

Trust me I am from the government!

Classic Reaganism. Prior to 45, no president ever lied to the American people more than he.

 

[Switcher56]

Repeat after me THEY ARE ALL LIERS. Rinse and repeat.

 

[EastCoastGambit]

This is a long thread. Just weighing in on the title question as I have not read back in time.

To me: America sold out. You can blame the government but you should also blame yourself because we elect the government. Greed and corruption is pervasive hence why we have racked up so much debt that they constantly need to raise the debt limit.

What fuels the nation, the tax income? Consumerism, and at what cost? How much waste? Its hedonism really and lacks virtue to live like that, however it is necessary to keep the gears of the economy turning.

People can complain about many ways the government mismanages the budget, year after year. For me, the military industrial complex, which Ike warned us about, takes the cake. Pentagon spending and programs labeled as so top secret that even congress has no idea what they are doing? 10's of trillions of dollars unaccounted for. This is a sham.

Private interests have the govt. by the balls. Our corporations prey on the populace and treat them with no human dignity. We are product.

We all have to fulfill our wants and desires at any cost. Insecurities and ego stroking that has been implanted in cultural messaging and marketing. Furthermore we are encouraged to be ignorant so that this scheme can continue.

American exceptionalism is by the wayside when we sell ourselves out, sell ourselves short. You can't cheat in life, exceptionalism takes work...effort. Though I may question if we were ever the best, or were we just the biggest bully? Having a huge military to enact our interests around the world and doing so with borrowed capital that will never be paid back, doesn't sound too powerful to me.

Now we are divided, confused, depressed. Parents disconnected from the youth. Neighborhood that don't function with nuclear families. So much Fentanyl being pushed into our borders and also being consumed because the demand is that great.

We sold out, our government doesn't serve but rather distracts trough culture war. And the rich get richer. We have no purpose or vision, we have no leadership.

Who do I blame...I blame myself

 

[Gry]

Repeat after me THEY ARE ALL LIERS. Rinse and repeat.

That is the perspective being offered by 'The Third Way' which is made up of the well heeled who wish affect
our politics. It is not something I agree with. I have never seen a president, but I did deal with NSC members over several different administrations and they were as different as those who they served.

 

[Switcher56]

This is a long thread. Just weighing in on the title question as I have not read back in time.

To me: America sold out. You can blame the government but you should also blame yourself because we elect the government. Greed and corruption is pervasive hence why we have racked up so much debt that they constantly need to raise the debt limit.

What fuels the nation, the tax income? Consumerism, and at what cost? How much waste? Its hedonism really and lacks virtue to live like that, however it is necessary to keep the gears of the economy turning.

People can complain about many ways the government mismanages the budget, year after year. For me, the military industrial complex, which Ike warned us about, takes the cake. Pentagon spending and programs labeled as so top secret that even congress has no idea what they are doing? 10's of trillions of dollars unaccounted for. This is a sham.

Private interests have the govt. by the balls. Our corporations prey on the populace and treat them with no human dignity. We are product.

We all have to fulfill our wants and desires at any cost. Insecurities and ego stroking that has been implanted in cultural messaging and marketing. Furthermore we are encouraged to be ignorant so that this scheme can continue.

American exceptionalism is by the wayside when we sell ourselves out, sell ourselves short. You can't cheat in life, exceptionalism takes work...effort. Though I may question if we were ever the best, or were we just the biggest bully? Having a huge military to enact our interests around the world and doing so with borrowed capital that will never be paid back, doesn't sound too powerful to me.

Now we are divided, confused, depressed. Parents disconnected from the youth. Neighborhood that don't function with nuclear families. So much Fentanyl being pushed into our borders and also being consumed because the demand is that great.

We sold out, our government doesn't serve but rather distracts trough culture war. And the rich get richer. We have no purpose or vision, we have no leadership.

Who do I blame...I blame myself

That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. It is all by design.

 

[h.h.]

I don’t blame anybody for mankind. It’s just the way we are. I blame no one and I carry no guilt.

 

[Gry]

This is a long thread. Just weighing in on the title question as I have not read back in time.

To me: America sold out. You can blame the government but you should also blame yourself because we elect the government. Greed and corruption is pervasive hence why we have racked up so much debt that they constantly need to raise the debt limit.

What fuels the nation, the tax income? Consumerism, and at what cost? How much waste? Its hedonism really and lacks virtue to live like that, however it is necessary to keep the gears of the economy turning.

People can complain about many ways the government mismanages the budget, year after year. For me, the military industrial complex, which Ike warned us about, takes the cake. Pentagon spending and programs labeled as so top secret that even congress has no idea what they are doing? 10's of trillions of dollars unaccounted for. This is a sham.

Private interests have the govt. by the balls. Our corporations prey on the populace and treat them with no human dignity. We are product.

We all have to fulfill our wants and desires at any cost. Insecurities and ego stroking that has been implanted in cultural messaging and marketing. Furthermore we are encouraged to be ignorant so that this scheme can continue.

American exceptionalism is by the wayside when we sell ourselves out, sell ourselves short. You can't cheat in life, exceptionalism takes work...effort. Though I may question if we were ever the best, or were we just the biggest bully? Having a huge military to enact our interests around the world and doing so with borrowed capital that will never be paid back, doesn't sound too powerful to me.

Now we are divided, confused, depressed. Parents disconnected from the youth. Neighborhood that don't function with nuclear families. So much Fentanyl being pushed into our borders and also being consumed because the demand is that great.

We sold out, our government doesn't serve but rather distracts trough culture war. And the rich get richer. We have no purpose or vision, we have no leadership.

Who do I blame...I blame myself

Thank you for your input, I found it admirable. We have common perspective when it comes to
your description of the relationship between private interests and our political class.
I always felt that "exceptionalism" was little more than a poor attempt at rationalizing the despicable after the passage of The Monroe Doctrine. The people here, are as you described. With good reason.
We as a country were sold out. The coup of 33.
It was done by our best and brightest. The cream of our society one might well say. They had
already used Europe as a test bed or laboratory. They supported the revolution in Spain, along with
both Mussolini and Hitler himself. We as a country were sold out right then and there. Our best
and brightest did not give a flying fuck about the sacrifices of our forefather's or our constitution.
They cared more for the additional profits offered by fascism.
This is something we have heard precious little of. For the very simple reason that the families and individuals who were involved also happened to own our media.
The caliber of individuals who would involve themselves with something of this nature would not
accept the failure of the coup. They would have and did have very formidable redundancy plans,
initially manifested as the OSS, and OPC during WWII, and evolving into the CIA after the war.
Allen Dulles was present at the Treaty of Versailles. He was there to look after the interests of
the US, but he had prior allegiances, as did his brother- the finances of Sullivan and Cromwell,
who had invested heavily into the first world war.
Each of the brothers had multiple layers of allegiance. Family and class loyalty, and Sullivan and Cromwell first with loyalty to the constitution and the US running a very distant third.
During WWII, FDR, was to learn that many of his senior military personal sided with those
who would have seen him overthrown. Resulting in direct orders of the president going
ignored. In a time of peace, that would be described as treachery. In a time of war, it
goes by a different term.
FDR stated repeatedly that he wanted the total surrender of Germany, with no private surrender
terms at all. I invite you to take a look Operation Sunrise. Allen lied to, cheated and betrayed each,
and every president under which he served.
When Ike stepped down, he wrote a scorching letter to the editor in Washpost,
basically stating that Dullas had undermined him, and usurped him repeatedly.
Dulles went to his home in Missouri, and twisted his arm to have him change it.
Our former president said no to him and sent him packing.
Dulles went back to DC, and proceeded to do what he could to undermine
the now former president.
Blame, I blame those who sold us out .

 

[EastCoastGambit]

Thank you for your input, I found it admirable. We have common perspective when it comes to
your description of the relationship between private interests and our political class.
I always felt that "exceptionalism" was little more than a poor attempt at rationalizing the despicable after the passage of The Monroe Doctrine. The people here, are as you described. With good reason.
We as a country were sold out. The coup of 33.
It was done by our best and brightest. The cream of our society one might well say. They had
already used Europe as a test bed or laboratory. They supported the revolution in Spain, along with
both Mussolini and Hitler himself. We as a country were sold out right then and there. Our best
and brightest did not give a flying fuck about the sacrifices of our forefather's or our constitution.
They cared more for the additional profits offered by fascism.
This is something we have heard precious little of. For the very simple reason that the families and individuals who were involved also happened to own our media.
The caliber of individuals who would involve themselves with something of this nature would not
accept the failure of the coup. They would have and did have very formidable redundancy plans,
initially manifested as the OSS, and OPC during WWII, and evolving into the CIA after the war.
Allen Dulles was present at the Treaty of Versailles. He was there to look after the interests of
the US, but he had prior allegiances, as did his brother- the finances of Sullivan and Cromwell,
who had invested heavily into the first world war.
Each of the brothers had multiple layers of allegiance. Family and class loyalty, and Sullivan and Cromwell first with loyalty to the constitution and the US running a very distant third.
During WWII, FDR, was to learn that many of his senior military personal sided with those
who would have seen him overthrown. Resulting in direct orders of the president going
ignored. In a time of peace, that would be described as treachery. In a time of war, it
goes by a different term.
FDR stated repeatedly that he wanted the total surrender of Germany, with no private surrender
terms at all. I invite you to take a look Operation Sunrise. Allen lied to, cheated and betrayed each,
and every president under which he served.
When Ike stepped down, he wrote a scorching letter to the editor in Washpost,
basically stating that Dullas had undermined him, and usurped him repeatedly.
Dulles went to his home in Missouri, and twisted his arm to have him change it.
Our former president said no to him and sent him packing.
Dulles went back to DC, and proceeded to do what he could to undermine
the now former president.
Blame, I blame those who sold us out .

Now I need to hit up some history books to be better informed and educated on these things. I wonder how much the 1944 Bretton Woods conference plays into where they restructured the global financial order in the wake of WWII.

 

[Gry]

Former DEA Agent Details How the CIA Concealed Identity of Two 9/11 Hijackers Granted Visas to the U.S. From the FBI

Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar [Source: bostonherald.com] New Evidence Shows that the CIA Also Obstructed the 9/11 Commission Investigation Dan Christensen, an investigative reporter and edit…

covertactionmagazine.com

 

[Gry]

The Middle Class Is Being Systematically Destroyed - LewRockwell

If you wanted to destroy the middle class, one way that you could accomplish that goal would be to flood the system with money. Of course that is precisely what we have witnessed over the past few years. Our leaders have pumped trillions of new dollars into the system, and the wealthy have...

www.lewrockwell.com

Am no libertarian, but I find commonality with some of their perspectives.

 

[Gry]

Anthony Comstock is Reaching Up Out of the Grave for the Necks of Women

He was so ignorant of sex & reproduction that he believed a visible human-like fetus developed “within seconds” of sexual intercourse. Here's how he could shut down every abortion facility in America…

hartmannreport.com

 

[h.h.]

Life is and always has been a struggle. We see food at the market and forget the effort involved to get it there. We blame government because we don’t get direct delivery outside of Uber and then we don’t tip worth a damn.

 

[Gry]

Life is and always has been a struggle. We see food at the market and forget the effort involved to get it there. We blame government because we don’t get direct delivery outside of Uber and then we don’t tip worth a damn.

We blame the government because that is what we have been told to do by our media from Reagan forward.
The media being owned by the same uber class that has always fanned the flames of divisionism within this country. While I may well be mistaken, the Uber driving deal looks like just one more deckstacker
scam designed to extract and transfer funds from our working class communities to our uber class predators
that take delight in feeding off everything we do in life, as opposed to contributing to the betterment of all.