top of the heap to third world status in one generation

[moose eater]

i skimmed this "report" (preppgroup.home), and found nothing but guesses. no signs of any research, no sources quoted, no actual research team names, not even a name of the person that guessed and typed it up. that's 10 wasted minutes of my life i won't get back. but, i won't be wasting any more of it reading such tripe...

There's a Canadian group online (an org) whose name evades me at the moment; happening more and more lately) which used similar or even higher numbers.

I'll look for it in a moment. (Be right back).

The articles I recalled were from globalresearch.ca, but I'm not finding the reports I saw a few years ago at the moment, though other sources came up.

The time-frame is important.

If a person asks which country has killed the most people/civilians via military actions throughout history, then the US is not in the leading handful of nations for that dubious award.

If asking the same question with a time-frame of "since World War II" then the results change a bit.... anf the US is no slackard in that competition.

It's estimated that in Vietnam alone, there were approximately 2 million Vietnamese killed, and there are numbers broken down for NVA, VC, civilians, etc.

Of course, in that 'police action' (never technically a declared 'war') many bodies were recorded as VC that were nothing more than villagers/civilians caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Likewise, Iraq and GW's illegal invasion. Some estimates go as high as over 1 million dead. Some are more conservative.

Since WWII the US has killed a LOT of people in the "liberating of hearts and minds" (and resources).

 

[armedoldhippy]

"globalresearch.ca" comes up as a conspiracy theory generating website (primarily pushing pro-Russia talking points) currently under investigation.

 

[moose eater]

"globalresearch.ca" comes up as a conspiracy theory generating website (primarily pushing pro-Russia talking points) currently under investigation.

Some of their stuff was clean, some not so much.

Like shopping for meat at Costco; know the market, or you may not be getting the best price or deal.
But there are other more respected sites, as I stated. Still high numbers.

It wasn't globalresearch.ca that posted the numbers re. Vietnam and Iraq. Those numbers are fairly well accepted.

 

[buzzmobile]

Remember "Chinese mystery seeds"?

US Government Claims Release of Information on Chinese Mystery Seeds Would Compromise Years-Long Investigation

The USDA is still investigating the "Chinese mystery seeds," years after saying they were harmless, according to a Motherboard FOIA request.

www.vice.com

 

[moose eater]

Scott Adams Echoes White America’s Resentful History of “Helping” Others

For centuries, we’ve been assisting African Americans, Native Americans, Vietnamese people, and Iraqis and have never been thanked once.

theintercept.com

 

[Gry]

Am dealing with health and computer issues and can only get online with a phone right now.
When it comes to the post in question, I can say that I know and can attest to the character of the man who put up the post. He is an honest man, who served and has an honorable discharge. He went back post conflict, and invested himself into seeing the rift between our countries healed.

We live in a country where the powers that be have figured out how to profit from conflict, and there is little they have not lied to us about. I will certainly grant that it quite a post, but I can attest to the character and integrity of the poster who made it.

 

[Gry]

Had a scratch over the knuckle get Infected, and it is kicking my ass.
Keep soaking it in hydrogen peroxide,
until I get some antibiotics, which can't be soon enough. Am amazed at how fragile we are health wise as we get older.

 

[moose eater]

Had a scratch over the knuckle get Infected, and it is kicking my ass.
Keep soaking it in hydrogen peroxide
until I get some antibiotics, which can't be soon enough. Am amazed at how fragile we are health wise as we get older.

A Betadine solution for soaking would-be infections and/or infections has been the best soaking treatment I've used. Though Betadine isn't cheap any more, and not for a while now; at least, not up here..

But I've seen badly infected fingers improve, sometimes overnight. Of course, my immune system was probably better then, too.

 

[h.h.]

Global research uses slight truths to promote big lies. Then they get someone to promote it for them. That’s how propaganda works.

 

[moose eater]

The Disturbing Groupthink Over the War in Ukraine

At this dangerous moment, with threats of nuclear conflict looming, we need a vigorous debate about U.S. policy toward Russia and Ukraine.

theintercept.com

 

[St. Phatty]

The 2 train crashes in Ohio - the East Palestine spill and a new spill - are testament that the US is devolving into a shithole nation that can't handle its own Shit.

Though you'd be better off with shit falling out of the sky, than ethylene chloride falling out of the sky.

200 year old technology, and the US is unable to complete a successful transport of a few thousand gallons of a mid-level serious chemical.

Which I'm pretty sure is going backwards.

Why is the US just now having more safety problems with their trains ?

In the history of serious train spills, one of the last ones was into the Sacramento River and Lake Shasta, 30+ years ago.

train technology history - Google Search

 

[Tudo]

I CAN'T FIND BUT IF YOU CALL IT A FEW TIMES THEN MAYBE I'LL HEAR IT AND FIND IT THAT WAY! HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FND THE FKING PHONE BUT IF YOU CALL IT A FEW TIMES THEN MAYBE I'LL HEAR IT AND FIND IT THAT WAY! HELP!

 

[armedoldhippy]

claims have been made that safety regs had been weakened or enforcement limited in recent years (dereg), i don't know. statements made regarding spacing of automatic heat detectors along tracks to hopefully spot a bad bearing etc before it failed. something of that sort -should- start a cascade of reactions by train crew. you can't let a schedule dictate strategy when you are dealing with a hazardous substance passing through populated areas...there IS NO balancing act to perform looking at human lives except under a most extreme situation in time of war...

 

[Tudo]

Found finally

 

[Gry]

With respect to claimed numbers and sources: I think we have all done our own back of the envelope calculations and come up with numbers that differ from the standard claims.

 

[buzzmobile]

This “Overlooked” Battery Material is Projected to Skyrocket 1,437% by 2030 due to Global Electrification and EV’s | Market Tactic

markettactic.com

 

[armedoldhippy]

Vietnam and Iraq. Those numbers are fairly well accepted.

i accept those, to a degree. it's the apparent guesses, utter bullshit & "i pulled this out of my ass" assumptions so freely made that "everyone knows"....that sets off my BS detector. oldest trick in the book, to slip just enough truth into a lie to make the lie "look" more respectable.

 

[moose eater]

i accept those, to a degree. it's the apparent guesses, utter bullshit & "i pulled this out of my ass" assumptions so freely made that "everyone knows"....that sets off my BS detector. oldest trick in the book, to slip just enough truth into a lie to make the lie "look" more respectable.

It's the sheer (and unacceptable) numberof overall 'police actions', military events and wars that the US has engaged in that boosts our overalll nhumber. Hard to be both the world's primary (self-appointed) 'policeman', and not leave a telling trail of bodies behind.

I believe the US has engaged in more military actions on foregin soil than any other country on the planet. Not a good rep.

 

[armedoldhippy]

I believe the US has engaged in more military actions on foregin soil than any other country on the planet.

you could very well be right on this. i'm sure Russia and China are close behind. both are quite active in Africa and Middle East/Asia. many of our jaunts were prodded as "peace-keeping missions" by the UN. it's just the US sending troops for the most part...

 

[flylowgethigh]

The demise of the good ole USSA is really accelerating under this regime. The end was coming anyways due to the debt. China just brokered a settlement between the Arabs and the Persians. America's time is fading, and she knows only war to remain relevant.

Interesting times.