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h.h.

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Maybe if he ran faster. Many also truly believe trump was robbed. It makes no difference though what they truly believe. What happens in real life is real. They lost. Neither one had enough true believers voting for them. Get over it and move forward or be buried in make believe and what might have been. Live in the truth of the here and now or live in a fantasy. It’s your choice.
 

Microbeman

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A slight modification. Forgive the intrusion on my part, but I feel like it is important to point out that Bernie
did indeed have what it would have taken to have won, which is why they denied him the opportunity to do so.
I wish the 'system' provided the possibility for him to run as an independent.
 

h.h.

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I wish the 'system' provided the possibility for him to run as an independent.
It does. The population has gravitated to two major parties. While the parties do promote themselves, it’s the publics choice. There’s plenty to choose from. Bernie could run independently. He’d get just enough votes siphoned off for trump to gain another victory. Personally I don’t support that scenario. It’s happened before and we ended up in Iraq. If that’s what Bernie’s supporters want, they should keep it up. Throw out them sympathy tears and cry about how they were “robbed”. Their self pity has already set our supreme court on a downward spiral. Not something to be proud of. Not at all.
 

Cannavore

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Maybe if he ran faster. Many also truly believe trump was robbed. It makes no difference though what they truly believe. What happens in real life is real. They lost. Neither one had enough true believers voting for them. Get over it and move forward or be buried in make believe and what might have been. Live in the truth of the here and now or live in a fantasy. It’s your choice.
again, there's no belief necessary. the DNC admitted it, and we also have the Wikileaks where they and the media colluded and actively worked against Bernie & PROPPED UP TRUMPS CAMPAIGN. You know, just as how Democrats are currently doing again by financing far right Trumpists with $40 million dollars in what was likely originally Democratic voter donations now being funneled into the campaigns of fascists.

It does. The population has gravitated to two major parties. While the parties do promote themselves, it’s the publics choice. There’s plenty to choose from. Bernie could run independently.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot​


Democratic Party leads nationwide purge of Green Party candidates from November ballots​


Officials investigating why 126,000 voters were purged from NY rolls​



"nothing's stopping you from running third party"

He’d get just enough votes siphoned off for trump to gain another victory.
that's not how voting works

Throw out them sympathy tears and cry about how they were “robbed”.
again it's a fact that you conveniently ignore

Their self pity has already set our supreme court on a downward spiral. Not something to be proud of. Not at all.

Yes, because Bernie forced RBG to remain on the bench when she should have retired. Bernie caused HRC to not campaign in the rustbelt. Bernie nominated anti abortion Tim Kaine as his VP. Bernie caused Obama to lose 1,000 seats. Bernie rolled over and let Mitch McConnell steal multiple SCOTUS picks. Bernie caused the Democrats to have a supermajority and not codify Roe into law.

It's all Bernie's fault.
 
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h.h.

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again, there's no belief necessary. the DNC admitted it, and we also have the Wikileaks where they and the media colluded and actively worked against Bernie & PROPPED UP TRUMPS CAMPAIGN. You know, just as how Democrats are currently doing again by financing far right Trumpists with $40 million dollars in what was likely originally Democratic voter donations now being funneled into the campaigns of fascists.


North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot​


Democratic Party leads nationwide purge of Green Party candidates from November ballots​


Officials investigating why 126,000 voters were purged from NY rolls​



"nothing's stopping you from running third party"


that's not how voting works


again it's a fact that you conveniently ignore



Yes, because Bernie forced RBG to remain on the bench when she should have retired. Bernie caused HRC to not campaign in the rustbelt. Bernie nominated anti abortion Tim Kaine as his VP. Bernie caused Obama to lose 1,000 seats. Bernie rolled over and let Mitch McConnell steal multiple SCOTUS picks. Bernie caused the Democrats to have a supermajority and not codify Roe into law.

It's all Bernie's fault.
Whatever. You sound like Q. A little truth with a lot of fiction.
 

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Pandemics, Inc, 1-5

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St. Phatty

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Interesting, the Jiu Jitsu of Rhetoric.

"The US Federal Reserve wins C*cks*cker of the Year Award !
First you CAUSE Inflation by printing $5 Trillion in 2020.
Then you CRUSH the Economy by raising Interest Rates."


So you see, my statement was not accurate - but it does the Fed - or their defenders - little good to illuminate the details.

They only printed $3.2 Trillion in 2020 - and an additional $1.5 Trillion in 2021 and 2022.

The US government really is causing a Major Recession.

AFTER they caused the major inflation that is inextricably intertwined with that same Recession !

Personally, I have stopped spending money COMPLETELY - so that I can pay down debt - because I refuse to pay the higher interest rates.

Multiply that by 100,000 people in the county - and it really does affect local businesses.

The owner of the local firearms store is STRUGGLING. He can't afford to pay his manager. Who is a good guy and a competent gunsmith, but will probably be gone the next time I go in there.



Mr. Powell in all his C*cks*cker-ness.

The Molestation of the Economy begins at about the 1 hour mark.
 
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Cannavore

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Whatever. You sound like Q. A little truth with a lot of fiction.
“There’s no right to not have your candidate disadvantaged or have another candidate advantaged. There’s no contractual obligation here . . . it’s not a situation where a promise has been made that is an enforceable promise,” Spiva (a DNC lawyer) said.

"The most recent court hearing on the case was held on April 25, during which the DNC reportedly argued that the organization's neutrality among Democratic campaigns during the primaries was merely a "political promise," and therefore it had no legal obligations to remain impartial throughout the process." — Newsweek

“We could have voluntarily decided that, ‘Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’” Bruce Spiva, lawyer for the DNC, said during a court hearing in Carol Wilding, et al. v. DNC Services Corp., according to court filings exclusively obtained by TYT Politics.


they're straight up telling you to your face the primaries are a charade and you call me Q lmao. trump truly broke the brains of Americans.
 

h.h.

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The population votes for the main parties because that’s where the main candidates are, including Bernie. Party tricks have been known for years. Even to Bernie. Bernie is a strong candidate but not strong enough to get votes. If only because of his self description as a democratic socialist. It turns a lot of folks off. You can call them stupid. Capitalists. Lefty’s. Liberals. Nazis. Whatever. They still won’t vote for someone who they feel is a socialist. They won’t re-educate themselves to fit your beliefs. Over all it is not their problem. It’s yours to prove.
 

h.h.

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The country is already split in half. They want to split it into thirds. Perhaps a party for every citizen. Then we can all get our way. Or nobody will. Losers will become winners with a fraction of the vote. Perhaps that’s what Yang wants.
 

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