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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

Gry

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Kremlin File

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kremlin-file/id1575837599

For those who would like to know more on Moscow.

Hosted by renowned researcher Olga Lautman and political activist Monique Camarra, KREMLIN FILE takes audiences on a riveting journey through the rise of Putin and the spread of authoritarianism across the globe and into the Trump White House. Featuring interviews with Masha Gessen, Yuri Felshtinsky, Bill Browder, and Craig Unger, Season One dives head first into Putin’s Russia and their ongoing active measures campaign around the world.
 

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My Danish grandmother when she was around 7 and in the 1870s was sold off to another family in a neighboring 'country' in what is now Germany to be an indentured servant. Times were hard. The story goes they just went over to visit and left here there.

There were similar one generation further back in my family with an Irish relative.
Was not surprised to learn that such practices were not uncommon over much of Europe.
Family also once own slaves and a large plot of land in Georgia with the traditional large plantation home that I got to visit several times as a kid.
The slave quarters had been converted to use as a still house, but it was the only building on the property with a concrete floor, and it had an iron bar
that ran the length of the structure embedded into the floor.
Took a little time to figure out the bar in the floor had nothing to do with the still.
Later toured a place with a similar history and the person who was giving the tour did describe such a bar as "the bar of justice".
I understood the person was just doing a job, and repeating what they were told to, or had heard others say, but I was left with
the thought that could see no light humor at all in their description.
 

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Legislation which will make it illegal video the police without their permission is being floated in AZ.

yeah, it really pisses them off to find out that they were filmed breaking the law (or someones arms) i can see where they would want that, as well as the folks telling them who they want "policed"...i don't think that any law stopping citizens from filming them while in public is gonna pass the "sniff test" in federal or the SC...
 

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How Did This Many Deaths Become Normal?



The U.S. is nearing 1 million recorded COVID-19 deaths without the social reckoning that such a tragedy should provoke. Why?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/03/covid-us-death-rate/626972/

merely the cost of doing business as usual and political pandering, etc. el Chumpo needed to pretend it was not a threat, so he did. assorted pols followed his lead to make it worse than it needed to be until it became obvious that was a mistake. still many that think it was not real, just "fake news" to hurt The Emperors re-election chances. they will never be outraged, and many just want for everyone to STFU... just my opinion there.
 

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Ongoing series about the Ukraine War and perspective


How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie? Part 1
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1228.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 2
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1229.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie? Part 3
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1230.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 4
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1231.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 5
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1232.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 6
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1233.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 7
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1234.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 8
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1235.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 9
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1236.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 10
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1237.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 11
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1238.mp3

Spitfirelist.com
 

Gry

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Those who took delight in telling others that masks were worthless, and there was no need to change one's behavior in a pandemic,
deserve both recognition and credit for doing what they could to add to the toll.
 

VenerableHippie

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Those who took delight in telling others that masks were worthless, and there was no need to change one's behavior in a pandemic,
deserve both recognition and credit for doing what they could to add to the toll.

I 've just read your first post here ... and Ringodoggie's reply ... and after 300 or so pages we have successfully avoided the issue. It has become generalised and de natured.
In which case you need to read this. It IS connected in terms of STATUS and BELIEF. And to Brother Nature's idea of the Ouroboros on page one here.

Who on earth believes that we (the ubiquitous 'we') were ever at the 'top' of any heap????:

The man whose heart is palpitating for fame after death does not reflect that out of all those who remember him every one will himself soon be dead also, and in the course of time the next generation after that, until in the end, after flaring and sinking in turns, the final spark of memory is quenched.

Furthermore, even supposing that those who remember you were never to die at all, nor their memories die either, yet what is that to you? Clearly, in your grave, nothing; and even in your lifetime, what is the good of praise … unless to sub-serve some lesser design?

Surely then, you are making an inopportune rejection of what Nature has given you today, if all your mind is set upon is what men will say of you tomorrow.” (Marcus Aurelius AD 161 to 180)
 

Gry

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I miss Ringodoggie. The man is irrepressible.
When a small percent of the planets population controls the vast majority of the earth's resources as well as the controlling currency, I have little difficulty describing them as being at the top of the heap.
Is not everything connected ? Thank you most kindly for the input.
With respect to what I need to read. I need to read it all, and there is little I enjoy more.
Hope you find something useful or entertaining in the balance of the content.
 

Brother Nature

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The man whose heart is palpitating for fame after death does not reflect that out of all those who remember him every one will himself soon be dead also, and in the course of time the next generation after that, until in the end, after flaring and sinking in turns, the final spark of memory is quenched.

Furthermore, even supposing that those who remember you were never to die at all, nor their memories die either, yet what is that to you? Clearly, in your grave, nothing; and even in your lifetime, what is the good of praise … unless to sub-serve some lesser design?

Surely then, you are making an inopportune rejection of what Nature has given you today, if all your mind is set upon is what men will say of you tomorrow.” (Marcus Aurelius AD 161 to 180)

A meme so millennials understand... ;)

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The Evil Reason the GOP Will Exploit Every Crisis The World Is Facing

Worldwide Democracy is under threat - not just as a result of Putin’s murderous war against Ukraine, but brewing since the 1980s and Reagan’s neoliberal revolution

Putin’s attack on Ukraine is producing a series of crises which are going to, in all probability, bring a period of great pain and instability to the world and to America in the near future.

Republicans are already working to exploit it.

By the election this fall much of the unity that exists because of today’s Ukraine passion will be exhausted, but the crisis it’s produced will just be beginning. And, just as Putin probably now hopes, it’ll stretch some democracies to the breaking point.

Americans think we’ve stood down Putin, but the forces he represents — strongman authoritarian neofascism combined with hard-right “Christian” nationalism — will grow a lot stronger over the next few years as fallout from his war in Ukraine.

If we’re not ready for it, those forces of bigotry and nationalism could overwhelm the US and other democracies around the world, particularly across Europe. Even if we are ready, oligarchs and wannabee strongmen are going to do their best to exploit the situation.

Those multiple forces now converging to threaten democracy, although many are the result of Putin’s murderous war against Ukraine, have also been brewing since the 1980s and Reagan’s neoliberal revolution.

They include:
  • Refugee crises
  • Shortages and spikes in the cost of both fuel and food
  • A worldwide recession
None of these are world-ending, but each has an exploitable political impact. Combined, they can destabilize governments, change which parties are in power, and even flip democracies into autocracies.

To quickly summarize each of them:
Refugee Crises


Think back to how Fox “News” and the GOP hyped the “refugee caravans” we saw coming here to the US in 2016.

As climate change and democratic crises hit Central America over the past decade — particularly Guatemala — the Trump campaign pounded on the Obama administration, falsely claiming the president had “opened” the southern US border to “anybody who wanted” to arrive.

It was pure demagoguery to gin up the racist vote in the US, but social media doesn’t stay in the US: the Fox and GOP talking points spread widely across Central America, where people believed the message coming from seemingly credible sources like America’s largest cable TV network and Republican politicians in the US Congress.

Thinking US immigration policy had changed and our borders were “open,” desperate people hit the road for our southern border, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy that filled the media for weeks and helped Trump and Republicans win that election.

Republicans continue to exploit that to this day, and a couple of Trump‘s good friends like Steve Bannon even scammed Trump supporters out of millions with a phony effort to build a wall. When Bannon got busted, Trump pardoned him (like he did so many of his other associates accused or convicted of crimes).

The political damage to Obama and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, though, helped flip the White House to Trump and Congress to the GOP.

So we can see the impact that immigration surges, even tiny ones, can cause on society and politics, and how they can be exploited by cynical, power-hungry politicians.

Imagine if, instead of a few thousand refugees massing on our southern border, over 30 million Central Americans had actually made their way into the US and were today trying to fined housing and work across the country.

Just think of how Republicans would use that as a club to beat the Biden administration over the head.

Few speak the language. Some will be criminals and their crimes that will be splashed all over the papers, even if it’s desperate people engaging in petty theft or prostitution. Some will “take jobs” from “good Americans.” Others will “burden” our social welfare system. Their need to eat and find housing will cause food shortages and drive up prices.

There are 360,000 refugees currently in Moldova, a fledgling democracy on Ukraine’s border with only 4 million citizens and an active, pro-Putin rightwing political movement.

That number of immigrants in Moldova is the equivalent of 30 million “Mexicans” (to use Trump’s phrase) “invading” America. It’s already straining Moldova’s politics.

Similarly, the 2.2 million Ukrainian refugees in Poland (pop. 37 million) is the equivalent of 21 million Central Americans flooding into the USA in less than three weeks. Already the backlash in Poland has begun, as Mateusz Mazzine wrote yesterday for Foreign Policy magazine:
Current deputy prime minister and leader of the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, stated that refugees “will not abide by the Polish law.” Former interior minister Joachim Brudzinski depicted them as “young, horny bulls called ‘refugees,’” and Polish President Andrzej Duda feared they carry a risk of “possible epidemics.”​


It’s the same all over Europe: over 10 million Ukrainian refugees, while today creating a humanitarian crisis, will be the foundation for a democracy crisis within months, one that will continue long after any sort of resolution to the Russian invasion is reached.
Worldwide shortages and spikes in the cost of both fuel and food


Oil prices worldwide were rising as the pandemic eased in large part because the 15% production cuts Trump negotiated in 2020 with Russia and Saudi Arabia remain in place. The Saudis are “refusing to take Biden’s phone call” about raising oil production back to 2019 levels.

But the record-breaking shock came when the price of oil jumped an additional $30 a barrel the week Russia invaded Ukraine, spiking petrol prices in the US and across Europe above anything seen before.

Republicans are already exploiting that now, as you can see from an email I received yesterday from former Trump Energy Secretary Rick Perry over the letterhead of the “America First Policy Institute”:
“As you have no doubt noticed, gas prices are way up. President Biden is trying to use Russia’s actions in Ukraine as an excuse for the increase in costs. The truth is that these prices were inevitable because of the actions President Biden has taken since his first day in office.

“Under President Trump, we invested in American energy, which boosted our economy and let Americans pay as little as $2 for a gallon of gas. The Biden Administration reversed the policies that gave us energy independence, embraced the radical Green New Deal, and forced us to again rely on foreign oil.”​


Perry is being dishonest and manages to forget the pandemic, but this is just the beginning of their exploiting the challenges caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

And that’s true of both the Republicans here and similar oligarch-associated rightwing political parties across Europe, who are also using pandemic- and war-caused inflation as a political weapon against popular political groups currently in power.

As Gideon Rachman notes for the Financial Times, there’s plenty of raw material:
“In the UK, households could see a 50 per cent increase in energy bills in April, followed by another 50 per cent rise in October.”​


And the UK imports little Russian oil or gas. As Germany and the rest of continental Europe try to cut off Russian imports, the price of energy could not only spike prices well over 150% but also lead to rationing of fuel and gas for heating across Europe and in other countries that now depend on Russian fuel imports.

Food is even more problematic, although those shortages will probably bite much later this year and throughout next year, as Russia and Ukraine account for as much as a quarter of the world’s wheat exports.

Both countries are also major exporters of fertilizer, and a shortage in that food-producing raw material has already led Brazil’s President Bolsonaro (who’s supporting Russia in their invasion of Ukraine) to push to ignore treaties with indigenous tribes and begin mining phosphate and other fertilizer ingredients in sensitive parts of the Amazon.

We’ve seen crisis like these — only far less drastic and sudden — literally reshape the politics of the world in the past few years.

When climate change drove the deserts about 100 miles south in North Africa over the past two decades, it produce a 2010-2012 spike in the price of wheat and other staples along with a flood of hundreds of thousands of land-displaced farmers into the cities of Syria, Libya and Tunisia.

The result was a revolt against the Syrian government, starting a civil war in that country and a refugee crisis that spilled over into Europe. A street vendor in Tunisia setting himself on fire as a protest against the higher wheat prices, and that act of self-immolation tripped off what we call the “Arab Spring” that eventually flipped Egypt into a military dictatorship, brought massive Russian bombing of Aleppo, and destabilized the entire region.

Imagine the same thing — only far worse — happening all across the world as food prices spike and democracies (particularly young, emerging ones) struggle to deal with the protests and political instability resulting from inflation caused by food and fuel shortages.
A Fed, fuel, food, and Covid-caused market crash?


The US Federal Reserve has already increased interest rates once and intends to do it more often in the near future, an action that has produced a recession nearly every time it’s been tried in the past 75 years.

Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich also calls it the “wrong diagnosis” and the “wrong remedy.”

If he’s right, the ensuing recession be a crisis for Democrats, as well as a windfall this year and in 2024 for Republicans. And when the US catches a cold, the world often gets pneumonia.

As Paul Krugman notes in The New York Times:
“Policy and events are seriously putting the brakes on the rapid expansion the U.S. economy has experienced since the pandemic recession.”​


Imagine the combineation of soaring inflation, fuel and food shortages, and a worldwide market crash: demagogues in every democracy in the world will crawl over each other to get in front of a TV camera and proclaim that they, alone, have the solution to their nation’s problems.

And that doesn’t begin to count in the possible shortage of consumer goods in the US and across Europe because of China’s Covid policies.

That nation had opted for a “zero-Covid” program that depended heavily on lockdowns and quarantines, causing many in China to ignore or forego vaccinations. And even those vaccinated have used a Chinese vaccine that doesn’t provide the protection of the mRNA vaccines available in the Western world.

As a result, when Omicrom hit China this week they had to shut down Shanghai — China’s biggest city and a huge export port — along with a few other cities, raising the specter of another “supply chain crisis” of consumer goods like we saw during China’s big lockdown last November.

From the point of view of rightwing parties around the world, goods shortages will be another hammer to take to democratic governments, including the Biden administration.
In summary…


Hang onto your hat: things are going to get wild.

This coming crisis of war, refugees, food, fuel, a dysfunctional Fed, and a worldwide pandemic could rival anything the world has seen since the 14th century.

Worldwide adoption of neoliberal “reforms” over the past 40 years have thrown in an additional factor: an explosion of consolidated monopolistic businesses and the billionaires they create, who bring along their very own brand of authoritarian and oligarchic political activism and media control (including the social media they own).

Republicans here (and their conservative oligarch-owned colleagues inside other democracies) will exploit every piece of it. They’ll scream about the deficit, yell about the price of fuel and food, howl about crime and immigrants: all to try to frighten people and support their claim that government is their private possession and we therefore never again need to have genuinely democratic elections.

I don’t see any easy answers here. Great wealth and hard-core authoritarians have embedded themselves deeply in the fabric of the Republican Party and in many similar European parties, particularly in Hungary and Poland.

That said, it’s important to remember that the last time we faced a worldwide depression and war — roughly 80 years ago — we and Europe came out of it far more progressive and democratic. Although the toll, in both wealth and blood, was horrific.

Forewarned is, to the extent it’s possible, forearmed. They’re preparing, and we must, too. Spread the word.

Thom Hartmann. com
 

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Agreeements made

In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.

When the USSR broke up in late 1991, there were nuclear weapons scattered in the resulting post-Soviet states. The George H. W. Bush administration attached highest priority to ensuring this would not lead to an increase in the number of nuclear weapons states. Moreover, as it watched Yugoslavia break apart violently, the Bush administration worried that the Soviet collapse might also turn violent, raising the prospect of conflict among nuclear-armed states. Ensuring no increase in the number of nuclear weapons states meant that, in practice, only Russia would retain nuclear arms. The Clinton administration pursued the same goal. With the prospect of extending the Non-Proliferation Treaty indefinitely looming, an alternative course that allowed other post-Soviet states to keep nuclear weapons would have set a bad precedent.

Eliminating the strategic nuclear warheads, intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and strategic bombers in Ukraine was a big deal for Washington. The ICBMs and bombers carried warheads of monstrous size — all designed, built, and deployed to attack America. The warheads atop the SS-19 and SS-24 ICBMs in Ukraine had explosive yields of 400-550 kilotons each — that is, 27 to 37 times the size of the atomic bomb that devastated Hiroshima. The 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads — more than six times the number of nuclear warheads that China currently possesses — could have destroyed every U.S. city with a population of more than 50,000 three times over, with warheads left to spare.

Assurances for Ukraine


Before agreeing to give up this nuclear arsenal, Kyiv sought three assurances. First, it wanted compensation for the value of the highly-enriched uranium in the nuclear warheads, which could be blended down for use as fuel for nuclear reactors. Russia agreed to provide that.

Second, eliminating ICBMs, ICBM silos, and bombers did not come cheaply. With its economy rapidly contracting, the Ukrainian government could not afford the costs. The United States agreed to cover those costs with Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction assistance.

Third, Ukraine wanted guarantees or assurances of its security once it got rid of the nuclear arms. The Budapest Memorandum provided security assurances.

Unfortunately, Russia has broken virtually all the commitments it undertook in that document. It used military force to seize, and then illegally annex, Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula in early 2014. Russian and Russian proxy forces have waged war for more than five years in the eastern Ukrainian region of Donbas, claiming more than 13,000 lives and driving some two million people from their homes.

Some have argued that, since the United States did not invade Ukraine, it abided by its Budapest Memorandum commitments. True, in a narrow sense. However, when negotiating the security assurances, U.S. officials told their Ukrainian counterparts that, were Russia to violate them, the United States would take a strong interest and respond.

Washington did not promise unlimited support. The Budapest Memorandum contains security “assurances,” not “guarantees.” Guarantees would have implied a commitment of American military force, which NATO members have. U.S. officials made clear that was not on offer. Hence, assurances.

Beyond that, U.S. and Ukrainian officials did not discuss in detail how Washington might respond in the event of a Russian violation. That owed in part to then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin. He had his flaws, but he insisted that there be no revision of the boundaries separating the states that emerged from the Soviet collapse. Yeltsin respected Ukraine’s independence and territorial integrity. Vladimir Putin does not.

U.S. officials did assure their Ukrainian counterparts, however, that there would be a response. The United States should continue to provide reform and military assistance to Ukraine. It should continue sanctions on Russia. It should continue to demand that Moscow end its aggression against Ukraine. And it should continue to urge its European partners to assist Kyiv and keep the sanctions pressure on the Kremlin.

Washington should do this, because it said it would act if Russia violated the Budapest Memorandum. That was part of the price it paid in return for a drastic reduction in the nuclear threat to America. The United States should keep its word.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...st-memorandum/
 

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