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St. Phatty

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America Was Founded on Secrets and Lies

Espionage, kidnapping, and the dark art of spycraft is as American as George Washington.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/15/george-washington-spies-lies-executive-power/


Once I met Admiral James Stockdale at the military cemetery in San Diego. He was Ross Perot's running mate in 92, a long time employee of the MIC.

And also, the senior flyer at the Gulf of Tonkin.

His autobiography is worth reading. He tells how they were ordered to fire on Open Water. Not a North Vietnamese craft in sight.

But the alleged attack by North Vietnam was used as the Reason for War of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, passed by the US gov., to save us from ?


There was obviously a terrible desperation in the US gov. to go to War with Southeast Asia.
 

Tudo

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Once I met Admiral James Stockdale at the military cemetery in San Diego. He was Ross Perot's running mate in 92, a long time employee of the MIC.

And also, the senior flyer at the Gulf of Tonkin.

His autobiography is worth reading. He tells how they were ordered to fire on Open Water. Not a North Vietnamese craft in sight.

But the alleged attack by North Vietnam was used as the Reason for War of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, passed by the US gov., to save us from ?


There was obviously a terrible desperation in the US gov. to go to War with Southeast Asia.


Oh yes, enough to make sure that one president could not stand in it's path either
 

White Beard

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I’ve been watching a very worthwhile series of documentaries on Netflix (only two episodes in) called “The Untold History of The United States”. It’s worthy of attention.
 

Gry

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I’ve been watching a very worthwhile series of documentaries on Netflix (only two episodes in) called “The Untold History of The United States”. It’s worthy of attention.
Is it the collection of 13 segments Stone and Kuznick did a few years back,
or has Kuznick since added more to it ?
 

Gry

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Who Killed More: Hitler, Stalin, or Mao?

No answer is straightforward, and all lead to more questions.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Really do think that there was an American who deserved to be in the running, living in the world we do, I can certainly understand why he was not included. The American: Allen Dulles.
If you need help with my logic: 1.3 million deaths from Viet Nam, sparingly 3 million in Indonesia and then there is South America ...
 

Gry

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Always thought the story of the Flying Tigers was neat as could be as a kid.
Once I learned the real story, I lost all respect for the treasonous SOB Pawley.
Was in short, a scam to traffic heroin. A lot of good people lost their lives so that a small
handful could make a damned fortune off of dope. We have never been told the truth about
squat with respect to China. The term China hand has very specific history to it.
picture.php
 

Horselover Fat

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Who Killed More: Hitler, Stalin, or Mao?

No answer is straightforward, and all lead to more questions.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Really do think that there was an American who deserved to be in the running, living in the world we do, I can certainly understand why he was not included. The American: Allen Dulles.
If you need help with my logic: 1.3 million deaths from Viet Nam, sparingly 3 million in Indonesia and then there is South America ...

King Leopold II of belgium should be running too.
 

Gry

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'If you don't, I won't forget it': Trump's threat to Bill Barr to charge Joe Biden and Obama over spygate - and he wants Hillary Clinton indicted too
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...got-plenty-indict-Joe-Biden-Barack-Obama.html


Trump gives Bill Barr ultimatum as he demands roundup of political enemies
Rambling phone interview on Fox Business sees president vent rage about rivals’ supposed crimes against him
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ws-clinton-obama-biden-obamagate-b885971.html


Lobbying Barr, Trump demands prosecutions of his political foes
Behind in the polls, Trump wants his attorney general to prosecute his enemies. Under normal circumstances, this would be a presidency-defining moment.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...ands-prosecutions-his-political-foes-n1242613


Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2078...-indict-joe-biden-with-26-days-until-election


Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518
 

armedoldhippy

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'If you don't, I won't forget it': Trump's threat to Bill Barr to charge Joe Biden and Obama over spygate - and he wants Hillary Clinton indicted too
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...got-plenty-indict-Joe-Biden-Barack-Obama.html


Trump gives Bill Barr ultimatum as he demands roundup of political enemies
Rambling phone interview on Fox Business sees president vent rage about rivals’ supposed crimes against him
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ws-clinton-obama-biden-obamagate-b885971.html


Lobbying Barr, Trump demands prosecutions of his political foes
Behind in the polls, Trump wants his attorney general to prosecute his enemies. Under normal circumstances, this would be a presidency-defining moment.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...ands-prosecutions-his-political-foes-n1242613


Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2078...-indict-joe-biden-with-26-days-until-election


Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518

did you hear that? was it....the 25th amendment? it sure sounded like it was coming to life.
 

Cannavore

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Gry did you listen to Chris Hedges speech for The Movement for a People's Party? I know you're a fan of Chris. Powerful speech.



[YOUTUBEIF]w-7pZnvVzI8[/YOUTUBEIF]
 

Gry

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Gry did you listen to Chris Hedges speech for The Movement for a People's Party? I know you're a fan of Chris. Powerful speech.



[youtubeif]w-7pZnvVzI8[/youtubeif]
Caught it real time, but sure will enjoy watching it again, thank you most

kindly !
 
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