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buzzmobile

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How marketers convinced America to eat fish sticks

There was never demand for fish sticks. But through a lot of savvy marketing and government assistance, they became an American staple anyway.

https://thehustle.co/how-marketers-convinced-america-to-eat-fish-sticks/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Mrs. Paul's fish sticks were on a rotating Friday meal schedule for this kid growing up while Catholic. I welcomed them for relieving me from the nastiness of canned tuna and salmon croquettes.

I am proud to say I cannot remember the last time I ate a fish stick.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Here’s How the Pandemic Finally Ends

A vaccine by early 2021, a steady decline in cases by next fall and back to normal in a few years—11 top experts look into the future.
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...pandemic-ends-421122?utm_source=pocket-newtab

2 Years sounds about right.


Hong Kong Flu - 2 Years (1968-1970)
2 million dead. 68k in the US. China strikes again.

Asian Flu - 2 Years (1956-1958)
2 million dead. Like almost ALL pandemics, it started in China. Again.

Flu Pandemic - 2 Years (1918)
20-50 million dead. Influenza had always previously only killed juveniles and elderly. This one left them alive, but killed completely healthy young adults.

Sixth Cholera Pandemic - 1 Year (1910-1911)
800+k dead. (Contaminated water) America, having learned from the past, quickly sought to isolate the infected so only had 11 deaths.

Flu Pandemic - 1 Year (1889-1890)
1 million dead. The first true epidemic in the era of bacteriology.

Third Cholera Pandemic - 9 Years (1852–1860)
1 million dead. Contaminated water was the means of transmission

The Black Death (Bubonic Plague) - 8 Years (1346-1353)
75 – 200 million dead. Likely jumped continents via the fleas living on the rats that so frequently lived aboard merchant ships.

Plague Of Justinian (Bubonic Plague) - 1 Year (541-542)
25 million dead. Constantinople lost 40% of it's population.

Antonine Plague ?Year (165 Ad)
5 million dead. Wiped out the Roman army.



Virus' burn themselves out all the time. They do it when they mutate. When a virus mutates, it's like rolling the dice. There's 1 chance to get more dangerous (heaven forbid), and a million chances it's going to kill itself off.

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Gry

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2 Years sounds about right.


Hong Kong Flu - 2 Years (1968-1970)
2 million dead. 68k in the US. China strikes again.

Asian Flu - 2 Years (1956-1958)
2 million dead. Like almost ALL pandemics, it started in China. Again.

Flu Pandemic - 2 Years (1918)
20-50 million dead. Influenza had always previously only killed juveniles and elderly. This one left them alive, but killed completely healthy young adults.

Sixth Cholera Pandemic - 1 Year (1910-1911)
800+k dead. (Contaminated water) America, having learned from the past, quickly sought to isolate the infected so only had 11 deaths.

Flu Pandemic - 1 Year (1889-1890)
1 million dead. The first true epidemic in the era of bacteriology.

Third Cholera Pandemic - 9 Years (1852–1860)
1 million dead. Contaminated water was the means of transmission

The Black Death (Bubonic Plague) - 8 Years (1346-1353)
75 – 200 million dead. Likely jumped continents via the fleas living on the rats that so frequently lived aboard merchant ships.

Plague Of Justinian (Bubonic Plague) - 1 Year (541-542)
25 million dead. Constantinople lost 40% of it's population.

Antonine Plague ?Year (165 Ad)
5 million dead. Wiped out the Roman army.



Virus' burn themselves out all the time. They do it when they mutate. When a virus mutates, it's like rolling the dice. There's 1 chance to get more dangerous (heaven forbid), and a million chances it's going to kill itself off.

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Could not help but notice that there were a lot of best case suppositions
within the article.
The only thing that I can say with certainty is that the more people who practice social distancing and use masks, the more reduced the effect of the virus will be.
 

Horselover Fat

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Virus' burn themselves out all the time. They do it when they mutate. When a virus mutates, it's like rolling the dice. There's 1 chance to get more dangerous (heaven forbid), and a million chances it's going to kill itself off.

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If you have a version of a virus that makes you very sick very fast you won't spread it much, because you'll be too sick to be spreading it. On the other hand a person who gets a mutated and less severe version will be out there spreading it around making less ground for the worse version to spread.

A virus that very quickly debilitates (or kills) the carrier can't spread as far as one that takes longer to develope severe symptoms. Ebola is a great example: it's too deadly to become wide spread easily.
 

h.h.

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It all sounds very good until you get a flu mutation. A widespread virus has ample opportunity for a variety of mutations.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
It all sounds very good until you get a flu mutation. A widespread virus has ample opportunity for a variety of mutations.

Some obviously can mutate more than others. The more severe it is, the more likely it will mutate down (less severe). A flu mutation can be bad, but rarely gets much worse. The Rhinovirus is not so bad and mutates often, and isn't much more than an annoyance.

I'm not an epidemiologist, but I'm pretty sure the Rhinovirus (common cold) has been around for thousands of years. If not hundreds of thousands. That's enough time for the virus to mutate, always down, to what it is today. The Egyptians wrote about it, and the treatment, in the 16th century BCE.

Now a NEW flu would be something like SARS, MERS and Covid-19. Hence the name "Novel Coronavirus" meaning "Never Been Seen Coronavirus".
 
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