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Gry

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Choir performs without masks at Pence event
A choir of more than one hundred people performed without masks at a robustly attended event in Texas at the First Baptist Church that featured a speech by Vice President Mike Pence.

Where the Vice President went on to suggest that everyone wear masks.
 

shaggyballs

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Masks May Reduce Viral Dose, Some Experts Say


People wearing face coverings will take in fewer coronavirus particles, evidence suggests, making disease less severe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/health/coronavirus-mask-protection.html

Hmmm?
I wonder?
Is it confirmed that a lower viral load will mean a less severe case?
If this can be confirmed, then it makes a good case for even wearing cheese cloth.
At least you will get some of it.

But this will only apply if you are in a high viral environment like a hospital I would assume.
Your eyes will still be vulnerable too

Not in a quick in and out public setting.
I would like to talk more about these findings.
But bring it to the mask section.

This thread is kept so neat I almost hate posting anything here.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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''Those who have lived their entire lives in functioning democracies may find it hard to grasp how easily minds can be won over to the totalitarian dark side. We assume such a passage would require slow, laborious persuasion. It does not. The transition from day to night is bewilderingly swift. Despite what many assume, civilized coexistence in a culture of tolerance is not always the norm, or even universally desired. Democracy is a hard-won, easily rolled back state of affairs from which many secretly yearn to be released.'' -

- Good read Gry - K+



Silence Is Health’: How Totalitarianism Arrives

Those who have lived their entire lives in functioning democracies may find it hard to grasp how easily minds can be won over to the totalitarian dark side.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/silence-is-health-how-totalitarianism-arrives
 

funkyhorse

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Silence Is Health’: How Totalitarianism Arrives

Those who have lived their entire lives in functioning democracies may find it hard to grasp how easily minds can be won over to the totalitarian dark side.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/silence-is-health-how-totalitarianism-arrives


Hi there, thanks for posting
I am afraid the author is biased in his article for omitting the fact that all those atrocities couldnt have been committed without the generous help, support, planning and financing of Usa which was the instigator of all the south american coups and killings in South America in the 70's.

This was called Plan Condor or Operación Cóndor, this is a basic historical fact, I dont see any difference between the behaviour of the american generals and government officials in south america or nazis in Europe, orders to the south american generals came from the Usa embassy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor


From this link:
The United States government provided planning, coordinating, training on torture,[16] technical support and supplied military aid to the Juntas during the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, and the Reagan administrations.[2] Such support was frequently routed through the CIA.
 

Amynamous

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How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

This spring, a team working under the president's son-in-law produced a plan for an aggressive, coordinated national COVID-19 response that could have brought the pandemic under control. So why did the White House spike it in favor of a shambolic 50-state response?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...s-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

Read the article. Wow.
Their ignorance and incompetence is just staggering, and their decision to halt their testing/tracing plan early on because “blue” states were being hit hard is simply criminal:

“Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.”
 

Gry

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Read the article. Wow.
Their ignorance and incompetence is just staggering, and their decision to halt their testing/tracing plan early on because “blue” states were being hit hard is simply criminal.
I would say you used polite understatement in your description.
I agree with you fully.
 

St. Phatty

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Read the article. Wow.
Their ignorance and incompetence is just staggering, and their decision to halt their testing/tracing plan early on because “blue” states were being hit hard is simply criminal:

“Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.”


the Not so United States of America.

only one nation benefits from America's disarray - Israel.
 

armedoldhippy

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the Not so United States of America.

only one nation benefits from America's disarray - Israel.

you seem laser focused on our only real friends (or closest thing to it. opinions differ) in the middle east. just curious...have you ever heard of Russia, China, or North Korea before? ALL state actors trying to cause disarray in our elections. i'm not saying that Israel does not have a dog in the fight. but you only point at THEM... "only one nation" LOL!
 

Gry

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And my belly is craving
I got a shakin' in my head
Feel like I'm dyin' and I wish I was dead
If I lived till tomorrow that'll be a long time
But I'll reel and I'll fall and rise on cod'ine
And it's real, and it's real, one more time
Well, when I was a young girl I learned not to care
About whiskey and from it I often did swear
My mother and father said whiskey is a curse
But the fate of their baby is a many times worse
And it's real, and it's real, one more time
Stay away from the cities, stay away from the towns
Stay away from the men pushin' the cod'ine around
Stay away from the stores where the remedy is fine
For better your pain than be caught on cod'ine
And it's real, and it's real, one more time
You'll forget you're a woman, you'll forget about men…

Cod’ine Buffy Sainte-Marie


When hear music of this nature, can't help but think of it as a tribute to cannabis, as

well as reminder that morality does matter in all things.
 

Gry

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News Corp: Rupert Murdoch's son James quits company

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53617966
James Murdoch, the younger son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch, has resigned from the board of News Corporation citing "disagreements over editorial content".
In a filing to US regulators, he said he also disagreed with some "strategic decisions" made by the company.
The exact nature of the disagreements was not detailed.
But Mr Murdoch has previously criticised News Corp outlets, which include the Wall Street Journal, for climate change coverage.
In recent years James Murdoch has also found himself at odds - politically - with his father, BBC North America correspondent David Willis says.
Whilst Murdoch Senior has pledged support for Donald Trump, James Murdoch has reportedly contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the campaign of Mr Trump's Democratic rival, Joe Biden.
James Murdoch's departure from News Corp would, our correspondent says, appear to grant even more influence to his brother Lachlan who is generally thought to share his father's more conservative views.
Rupert, News Corp's executive chairman, and Lachlan, co-chairman, wished James well in a joint statement.
"We're grateful to James for his many years of service to the company," the statement said. "We wish him the very best in his future endeavours."
What do we know about past disagreements?

Earlier this year, amid devastating wildfires in Australia, James Murdoch and his wife Kathryn expressed their frustration with climate change coverage by News Corp and Fox.
Their spokesperson told The Daily Beast they were "particularly disappointed with the ongoing denial among the news outlets in Australia given obvious evidence to the contrary."
Rupert Murdoch has described himself as a climate change "sceptic" and denies employing climate deniers.
But critics of News Corp pointed to its comment articles and reporting of the alleged role of arson in the wildfires as minimising the impact of a changing climate.

Who is James Murdoch?

Born in London in 1972, he is the youngest of Rupert Murdoch's three children from his marriage to Anna Torv, the others being sister Elisabeth and brother Lachlan.
He was schooled in New York, going on to study film and history at Harvard University but he dropped out in the mid-1990s without completing his degree.
Gaining a reputation as the family rebel, he set up an independent hip-hop label, Rawkus Records, which launched the career of rapper-actor Mos Def and gave an airing to the then little-known Eminem.
He was formerly chief executive of 21st Century Fox before Walt Disney bought most of its assets last year.

+Disney dumped Fox from 20th Century Fox in rebranding +
 

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