I've tried the forum recipe in the past a few times and diluted it and it never worked for me properly. So this time I used the Sigma recipe and had 4 clones of a selected GMO x Dessert Breath cut and sprayed once per day on days:
-5, 1, 5 Clone A
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Clone B
1, 7, 14 Clone C
7, 14, 21, Clone D
Today is Day 40 of flower and I killed Clone A, B, C. They all produced pollen and are still dropping but Clone A produced more and produced earlier. It was still throwing new balls today when I cut it down. It reminded me of a true male.
Clone D is still alive because I want to see what happens. I wont use it on the females as it has only just started to drop pollen. Clone D was the only one that showed some female flowers but after the Day 21 spray it reversed fully. All the rest never showed any female flowers with pistils at all just male. I am going to do the same tests on a bunch of different strains next to see how different cultivars react.
Here are some pics from today of the pollen donor clones and the target plants fully seeded.
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What MM was the spray you used bud?
Did you ever try the 3 mM spray on the 5/5/5 day dosing schedule Tony? I'm trying it now.Im gonna try farmer joes protocol on my sour project coming up, hopefully
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Based on how I read this thread, Tony was going to try the Sigma formula (recipe in first post) at 3 mM and spray at 5 days before 12/12, at 12/12 flip, and 5 days after. I just sprayed a plant at this concentration with the SIgma formula so I'll fill you guys in on what happens.@Tonygreen can you post the recipe for your 3mM spray? How much different is this from the normal recipe used? The 3mM spray is something new to me.
3mM= Silver Nitrate in grams? ...Sodium Anhydrous in grams?... How much RO for ea?
Typical recipe= .5G Silver..... 2.8g Anhydrous ... 500mls RO for ea.
I've found using the same recipe doesn't always work. Some have no prob while others will(same genetics).. I've not found the cause yet.. Some are testing the impact LED has on reversing plants. Doing side by side tests using the same recipe but under LED vs HPS vs CMH.. So far LED has the most failures getting plants to reverse. . I've been using 7:1 for many years with great success but there are some that have only reversed partially or produce little pollen. Consistency is a problem.
Based on how I read this thread, Tony was going to try the Sigma formula (recipe in first post) at 3 mM and spray at 5 days before 12/12, at 12/12 flip, and 5 days after. I just sprayed a plant at this concentration with the SIgma formula so I'll fill you guys in on what happens.
I see, I misunderstood, sorry about that. I bought a scale just for this sort of thing, I tried it with my standard bud scale and it wasn't happening.Yep, I couldn't find how much of ea was used to make 3mM... There's a lot of numbers in the 1st post. Just to clarify.. Fill in below. Measuring such small amounts is not very accurate with the scales we use. I have a good scale but it struggles with anything below .5g. I don't make small amounts of STS due to the accuracy limits of my scale.. I can't weigh 0.1-0.4 with any accuracy. So I make 1000mls of stock STS.
I read this?
Sodium=1.58 g into 100ml RO?
Silver= 1.7 g of Silver 100ml RO? This is a lot of silver for 100mls.
Mix Silver into Sodium for a total of 200mls stock, Dilute to 1:4?
The standard Recipe is easy to make
.5g Silver 500mls RO
2.5g Sodium A OR 3.9G P 500mls RO
Mix Silver into Sodium for a total of 1000mls STS stock solution.. Dilute making the ratio to your liking.
For 1000mls 3mM?
Silver grams ?
Sodium grams ?
RO for ea MLS?
Ya I’ll post a pic. Mines going right now. Worked hard not to spray again haDid you ever try the 3 mM spray on the 5/5/5 day dosing schedule Tony? I'm trying it now.
I’ll try that next.Damn T did you do all of those tests... I've been using the same ratio for years.. 7:1... 9:1 is inconsistent. I've had plants not fully rev using that.. 7:1 has no issues, works every time.. I just reversed White Truffle.
that's day 5, 10, and 15 post 12/12? Did you ever do Farmer Joe's schedule at 5 days before 12/12, on 12/12 flip, then 5 days after? I'll try your dosing schedule next time, you've gotten a great response from that plant, which sounds like a killer cross too.That’s 3mM at 5,10,15. Girls went in day 21 when I saw a ball forming. They’re at 14 now. Hopefully good timing and a ball of dust! So he’s at 35 days
Sour Diesel Bx3 x reversedGorilla Bubble Bx5 Dometop pheno; reversed!
Do you find sours difficult to reverse? I reversed a Sour hybrid no worries but I've heard that certain cuts are very stubbornIm gonna try farmer joes protocol on my sour project coming up, hopefully
I get the dust blowing! Thanks to everyone who is contributing. I feel like we are getting somewhere besides the random stories.