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Tom Hill Haze

DaEarl73

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Marco is no different, sadly they to have seen their traditional varieties replaced by Dutch hybrids.

I read they grow things from Blueberry to white widow now, a shame really.

They still have both, beldia flowers and finishs earlier, so there are maybe not so many pollinations with hybrids. the seeds they have in the hybrids they call romiya. so they have beldia, that finishes some times already in the beginning of August and the imported hybrids plus their own romiya crosses on the fields that finish end of September beginning October
 

GrandpaMillenial

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Marco is no different, sadly they to have seen their traditional varieties replaced by Dutch hybrids.

I read they grow things from Blueberry to white widow now, a shame really.


Here is a pic of my Moroccan Beldia.

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Red hairs, she’s gotta fruity skunk thing going on.

I made about 40-ish seeds from my THH male.

She was just a non focused grow, she started flowering early, got accidentally revegged from my patio light. But I love the flowering at like 18 hour days and the long duration of flowering. lets see how the Beldia x THH grow in the future some time.

i picked off some dying sugar leaves and its a sticky greasy hash not the dry type.

she will be getting the chop soon
 

led05

Chasing The Present
Correct, but he did know what was what regarding the underground Sean regarding cannabis there.

A lot of Thai was bought by middle men from the farmers then taken back to Bangkok where it was graded and then sold for export to the smugglers, the farmers had nothing to do with the smugglers. The middle men arranged delivery to the boats.

I have also read and seen old documentaries where it was said a lot was also grown in the Golden Triangle I think near Burma they were under the protection of the warlords where the opium was also being grown.

Regardless, I know for fact there was still very good old school Thai in Thailand in 1986 that was 2 years after the imported Thai stopped coming to Australia. After Thai imports stopped, any Thai here was grown here by people with the genetics, and they still exist.

Law enforcement was heavy everywhere, including Australia and America take Colombia the DEA with the help of the Colombian military absolutely smashed that country worse than Asia and yet a lot of their lines survived and people still continue to grow them there Thailand should be no different.

Handing out a million specifically breed 0.2 THC High CBD clones to Thais would have done more damage than the DEA could have ever hoped for.
Gotta find da Beach again…

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Wolverine97

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Here is a pic of my Moroccan Beldia.

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Red hairs, she’s gotta fruity skunk thing going on.

I made about 40-ish seeds from my THH male.

She was just a non focused grow, she started flowering early, got accidentally revegged from my patio light. But I love the flowering at like 18 hour days and the long duration of flowering. lets see how the Beldia x THH grow in the future some time.

i picked off some dying sugar leaves and its a sticky greasy hash not the dry type.

she will be getting the chop soon
Looks legit. The guy I mentioned who sells the New Mex Land Grant, also has Beldia as one of his hash plants. This looks much like his do. He dry farms his, just nature, no water given. Obviously he doesn't get great yields by doing it that way, but it seems to work for him.
 

OldCoolSativa

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I can’t recall the source, but I remember reading in one of the books on the Mr Asia syndicate that they also introduced faster flowering varieties to Thailand to increase the number of crops per year they could harvest.
Exactly! No doubt the US pressure on Thai authorities reduced supply of Thai weed. But Mr. Asia played a critical role by introducing Afghan contamination into the Thai gene pool to facilitate the shift from grass-roots heirloom growers scattered across the Makong basin into large-scale commercial production. That's what killed readily available Vietnam-war-era-quality Thai weed.
 

Hammerhead

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Did anybody run those $200 beans Tom was hawking to find the 5% good plant? How was it, and are beans of the 5% available, or does it not work that way?

From what I've seen finding good isn't that hard. I've found plenty of good in all hazes. What is good can be very different from person to person. I'm after exceptional. I've not found any that fall into that category yet. The problem is the need to grow a very large lot of seeds to find some. I do have a few of Tom's seeds going now. Tom just ran a 100 seed lot. His post about them are posted in this thread.


Tom is running some Thai now.
 
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Donald Mallard

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Exactly! No doubt the US pressure on Thai authorities reduced supply of Thai weed. But Mr. Asia played a critical role by introducing Afghan contamination into the Thai gene pool to facilitate the shift from grass-roots heirloom growers scattered across the Makong basin into large-scale commercial production. That's what killed readily available Vietnam-war-era-quality Thai weed.
while it sounds good ,i dont think there is evidence to prove this theory ,
where is the remaining genetics ,, after this so called contamination ,
i dont , or didnt see any hybrid production ,
there may have been some hybrid , but not on a massive scale ,
and i definitely dont think its what killed the production ,,
after the decimation of the thai commercial production , the neighbouring country , Laos ,
just grew sativa,
what killed the production was the thai army at the request of the usa destroying all the crops in the isaan area ,
My father in law was in the army and helped with clearing out the guys growing crops , he got shot in the process , but hes a tough old bastard ,
still alive today , with a neat bullet wound on his lower right shoulder ...
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Exactly! No doubt the US pressure on Thai authorities reduced supply of Thai weed. But Mr. Asia played a critical role by introducing Afghan contamination into the Thai gene pool to facilitate the shift from grass-roots heirloom growers scattered across the Makong basin into large-scale commercial production. That's what killed readily available Vietnam-war-era-quality Thai weed.
Afghan lines would not do well in Thailand, the high humidity alone would smash them.
 

Raco

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Moroccan traditional plantas can get (relatively) large outdoors in good soil here @43N.Close to the sea,low altitude and high humidity.
Those cultivars are definitely smaller, produce much more resin in the Rif mountains and finish earlier.
Friends of mine brought seeds from Morocco in the early 80s that did very well inland at 500/600 meters high but those werent Beldia.
They had 3 different types iirc.and well behaved
By the late 90s several crusty problematic neighbours bought the cheapest Sensi's outdoor strains...Shiva Shanti ll, Mexican sativa some ruderalis hybs ...that eventually contaminated my friends well preserved lines.
But that's another story...
 
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kro-magnon

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Moroccan traditional plantas can get (relatively) large outdoors in good soil here @43N.Close to the sea,low altitude and high humidity.
Those cultivars are definitely smaller, produce much more resin in the Riff mountains and finish earlier.
Friends of mine brought seeds from Morocco in the early 80s that did very well inland at 500/600 meters high but those werent Beldia.
They had 3 different types iirc.and well behaved
By the late 90s several crusty problematic neighbours bought the cheapest Sensi's outdoor strains...Shiva Shanti ll, Mexican sativa some ruderalis hybs ...that eventually contaminated my friends well preserved lines.
But that's another story...
If I remember correctly the farmer I visited in the Riff had also 3 or 4 different strains, some of his plants were from Lebanese seeds, each strains were separated by field. At this time most of the fields were dry farmed today there is some with irrigation system I think.
 

Donald Mallard

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I have trouble finding plants that won't rot from Virginia humidity, I can only imagine how it would be in Thailand.
They can be grown during the dry season when the humidity is low, hybrids can actually do very well and produce excellent quality..
Even the thai sativas are/were maturing in the dry season, the areas known for commercial production decades ago are dry for about 9 months of the year..
 

Raco

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The seed that produced this plant came from Down Under...."loader" sent seeds to Chamán in CR, who shared some with me 20 years ago.There were 2 or 3 different batches...he named them Aussie Red, Yellow...because of the color of the envelopes :)

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led05

Chasing The Present
Bouquet for the ladies

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And such an easy way to collect pollen, I’ve had em root out BF doing this; the will to live on

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Definitely dumped a lot of beautiful pollen, I’ll clean it up here eventually…

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I recon thrip lines, my natural nemesis, they never are truly gone…. Just lying in the wait, or in this case hitching a ride in from GH to house, I hope the pollen acted like a desiccant & dried them fukers up, in reality they probably just leaped or took off to greener pastures…. Ha, fukers

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^ Pretty cool the shit we see when paying attention
 

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