Tom Hill Haze

[mexcurandero420]

I can remember that Tom wrote once that he never found an incense phenotype in his Haze, because that's more what you find in a Colombian phenotype and not in a Thai.

 

[Hammerhead]

THH doesn't have that terp profile AFAIK. THH has mostly pine type aromas from what I've found so far..

 

[willydread]

I only grew a couple of THH plants, the main aromas were black pepper, spices, coffee, no incense...
I am agree with Tom....

 

[mexcurandero420]

I can remember that Tom wrote once that he never found an incense phenotype in his Haze, because that's more what you find in a Colombian phenotype and not in a Thai.

He bred his Haze more to the Thai side than Colombian like Seedsman OHz.

 

[Hammerhead]

The next HK x THH..I got a few more of these going. The 1st pheno was awesome but again potency was lacking. All but a few have been in the 10-15% THC range. I'll keep looking. I do like this plant..

 

[bigtacofarmer]

The next HK x THH..I got a few more of these going. The 1st pheno was awesome but again potency was lacking. All but a few have been in the 10-15% THC range. I'll keep looking. I do like this plant..

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When you say lacks potency are you talking about the quality of high or thc percentage, or both?

 

[Hammerhead]

When you say lacks potency are you talking about the quality of high or thc percentage, or both?

I'm guessing tests would be 10-15%. The strength of the high is weak. Im, not a heavy user. A few bog hits a day of good bud is all I need. Low THC with those old school strong terps is rare. These chemotypes are pretty hard to find. I've grown around 30 plants of various haze poly's I've found 1 that is killer so far..

 

[Sub24ox7]

Beautiful! How she smell? Looking great!

Spicy lemon lime mint so far.

 

[browntrout]

I often burn frankinsense incense.

It has a similar 'feel' to it. Mind expanding yet serene.

One THH had the same smell, churchy incense old libraries/books/leather slightly musty smell with a lime start to it.

It was mind expanding too, calm and serene untill you started soaring.

one of how many? sounds like a winner.

 

[exoticrobotic]

1 of 4 or 5, my memory is a bit hazy

I remember after the chop being wowed by the smell of old goats in the room.

All 4 or 5 got made into hash.

There was an epiphany each and everytime i smoked it.

The hash smelt of crystalised ginger and had a shiny glassy gloss to it.

 

[exoticrobotic]

Had a frankinsense/goat smelling one, a purple one smelling of cola cubes with chocolate notes and other limey/hazey ones.

The first toke gave an ancient feeling of deja vu and nostalgia along with the clearing of the mind cobwebs.

Then came the smile and the surreal ideas. I had to watch how much i smoked otherwise it could get a bit in yer face/cheeky...With the quick flow of ideas. It made my brain more efficient.

The hash caused me to abandon any idea i was 50 and i ended up taking on a small team of 10 yr olds at football at the local park with my son.

I showed them skills...proper old skool skills...

My foot was mapped in a grid and i could see how the ball was going to connect with it. Time slowed and i was able to take a shot.

I was able to curl the ball in the top corner of the net with ease quite a few times but found myself randomly booting the ball as hard as i could up in the air whenever a volley came my way.

 

[LostTribe]

Spicy lemon lime mint so far.

Hope she's a keeper!

 

[Piff_cat]

He bred his Haze more to the Thai side than Colombian like Seedsman OHz.

It's also about the nld afghan in nl5. Hooks up with the haze to bring thru guiaol a potent pine like terp derived from heycardyol. Very strong olfactory found in palo Santo, northern afghan/Xinjiang nld hashplant and Cuban black haze. Ocimene, bisabolol guiaol that's ur church recipe. And hashishinene which interestingly found in Indian Boswellia and hash from n afghan..

 

[Donald Mallard]

is there northern lights in toms haze ,
i dont think so piffy man ,
thats nevils stuff your stuck on ,

i grew tom hill haze eons ago , like 20 years back,
it reminded me of thai too , some sour mango going on there ,
no incense at all ,
just like the local weed here , in fact , side by side they were exactly the same and you couldn t tell them apart ,
and the local stuff here was from thai stock ,
nice racy uplifting sativa high , very strong if grown to its full potential ....

it seems to me , and others from what i read,
that toms haze is crossed with thai ,
or its the thai leaning stuff sam talked about before ,
only dna testing would tell us i guess , but it would be my guestimation anyhow ..

 

[exoticrobotic]

Some of the THH ones i grew had sandlewood notes to them.

No sour mangoes at all! and i love sour mango!

When you said you grew them 20 years ago maybe they were from an earlier batch? I'm sure mine were from a release 15 years or so ago.

They smelt very much of insense to me, both fresh and when burned but maybe it's just my interpretation of the insense smell. I can vaguely remember Tom stating his haze doesnt smell of insense... but it does to me...

Maybe some of the rest of the THH will be mango smelling hazes. I hope so as it correlates with old skool greatness.

 

[exoticrobotic]

i did do a haze 25 years or so ago that reeked of sour mangoes and grew like a vine with small darker thicker leaves. I dunno which it was, most likely seedsman O haze, they were very large seeds.

It grew like a vine maybe due to the environment... over heating, no ventilation, on a slab with no runoff.

It created some wispy bad homegrown looking stringy stuff smelling of spice and mangoes. Wow was it potent!

That haze and the THH all had that ancient feeling in the effects along with large increases in visual contrast/permanence.

I also did MN AfghanHaze. Nice with some unusual banana terps but not quite in the same league effect wise.

 

[mexcurandero420]

It's also about the nld afghan in nl5. Hooks up with the haze to bring thru guiaol a potent pine like terp derived from heycardyol. Very strong olfactory found in palo Santo, northern afghan/Xinjiang nld hashplant and Cuban black haze. Ocimene, bisabolol guiaol that's ur church recipe. And hashishinene which interestingly found in Indian Boswellia and hash from n afghan..

There is no nl5 in THH, only in Nevil's Haze.About the Church aroma recipe
Boswellia sacra/carterii or B.papyrifera from Sudan & Ethiopia has the Frankincense Church aroma, but Boswellia serrata from India, the terpenes composition is totally different.Its not a very nice aroma actually.

 

[Limeygreen]

I had mango smells and tastes in thh from the release raco and tom did, can't recall any frankincense in any of them though. Sour should be in there as well, the oil smell is there as well.

 

[LostTribe]

is there northern lights in toms haze ,
i dont think so piffy man ,
thats nevils stuff your stuck on ,

i grew tom hill haze eons ago , like 20 years back,
it reminded me of thai too , some sour mango going on there ,
no incense at all ,
just like the local weed here , in fact , side by side they were exactly the same and you couldn t tell them apart ,
and the local stuff here was from thai stock ,
nice racy uplifting sativa high , very strong if grown to its full potential ....

it seems to me , and others from what i read,
that toms haze is crossed with thai ,
or its the thai leaning stuff sam talked about before ,
only dna testing would tell us i guess , but it would be my guestimation anyhow ..

Although I do not have nearly as much experience as you do Wal, I completely agree.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

that looks exactly like the haze from this 1980 calender

I think picture 6 is the old lime tip skunk from sams early skunk#1....