Also worried my P1 generation pollen may be getting old. Will try it on Sour D, Blue Dream and Strawberry Cough. The Strawberry Cough smells heavily influenced by Haze interestingly. It has a different pointy hair and long thick colas.
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Tom Hill Haze
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StickyBandit
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A year seems pretty good, I did notice mine stores best with no rice or anything in with it, seems to stay powdery longer just in a bare plastic vile!
GrandpaMillenial
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I took my crops out back while cleaning the tent today.
It just finished raining so it wasn’t gonna hit with that intense sunlight, but a nice breeze to shake the stems and rattle the leaves.
Day 28 of flower cycle.
starte at 12/12, reduced by 1/2 hour weekly, now at 10/14 where they will stay
THH plants 1,2,3,4, and 5 is a male
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5, male named “double sausage”
It just finished raining so it wasn’t gonna hit with that intense sunlight, but a nice breeze to shake the stems and rattle the leaves.
Day 28 of flower cycle.
starte at 12/12, reduced by 1/2 hour weekly, now at 10/14 where they will stay
THH plants 1,2,3,4, and 5 is a male
1
2
3
4
5, male named “double sausage”
AmericanFarmer
Active member
Is there a reputable source for Tom Hill’s beans been looking for almost a year for PURE Thai Haze and can’t find any. I know Tom was nice enough to release some to the communities about a year ago but I didn’t have coin then. I’m really kicking myself. If anyone one has any they could spare I would like to make a trade. I have gobbles of John Fowler’s work. 
AmericanFarmer
Active member
I like it ALL. I have most of his raw heirloom Mexican lines. 3- way Vietnamese, Hoa Bac silver leaf, Choclate Thai, and a lot of his heirloom poly hybrids.
I’m keen on Tom Hill’s Haze , Maha’s work as well for preservation and making my own crosses.
I’m keen on Tom Hill’s Haze , Maha’s work as well for preservation and making my own crosses.
the best way would be to contact Tom Hill on IG probably, I know he is on IG as he posted some pics of my work at his account, he sells 100 seeds minimum, 2 dollars per seed I think. I don't know if it is available or if Tom plans another pollination soon, but when you ask him he will not bite you. well may be a little 
hahahahhaha just dont say these words: icmag and lumbo haze hahahhahaha just joking.
hahahahhaha just dont say these words: icmag and lumbo haze hahahhahaha just joking.
CharlesU Farley
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I'm totally and completely ignorant about all things Hz and only know about TH via his postings here on ICM, before he got shit canned. No doubt there's a lot of threads that got shitcanned as well, so this is about the only thread left that has any information that I would be interested in.... he sells 100 seeds minimum, 2 dollars per seed I think. I don't know if it is available or if Tom plans another pollination soon, but when you ask him he will not bite you. well may be a little
And I don't know all the inside jokes and innuendo concerning him, so I'm not really sure if you're were being facetious or not in the hundred seed minimum, $2 a seed price.
Is that really what he sells seeds for or are you being facetious?
I honestly don't know. But if that is really what he sells seeds for, the amount of respect I have for him just went _up_.
He's like the antithesis of Todd McCormick.
yeah, he sells it like that.I honestly don't know. But if that is really what he sells seeds for, the amount of respect I have for him just went _up_.
AmericanFarmer
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Thank you MAHA I will brother, much respect 
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I try to tread lightly around Tom lol already been down that road ain’t going back!
.I try to tread lightly around Tom lol already been down that road ain’t going back!
AmericanFarmer
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Trying to find Tom Hill on IG is like trying to find a particular “ Juan Gonzalez “ in Mexico ! I can’t find him
AmericanFarmer
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I don’t understand why y’all don’t breed just the Thai phenos in THH to cut through ALL the lumbo phenos??? Someone needs to do this 
acespicoli
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I don’t understand why y’all don’t breed just the Thai phenos in THH to cut through ALL the lumbo phenos??? Someone needs to do this
Dutch Flowers' Metal Haze Description
Experienced smokers know nothing comes close to the potency of a true Haze. Growers also know this, but long flowering periods, unruly phenotypes, and the infamous 1-in-5-crapshoot chance of finding a special female have held many back. Breeding an indoor-friendly Haze strain that consistently delivers superior potency has been the very focus of DF breeding efforts since its inception. To that end, the team has collected and grown enough clones and crosses to setup a small Haze museum. Synthesizing our best Haze genetics into one line posed a considerable challenge. In early trials, proven clones passed down their potency genes on to the next generations using an unacceptable, unpredictable domino pattern. To develop a superior seed line, males were tested the hard way, growing out their offspring to recognize the best possible pollen source. Winning donors pollinated our choicest females, and their offspring was then heavily selected at the second generation. Recombinant individuals displaying the desired potency, phenotype, flowering and yield traits were identified and inbred into separate lines. Three years after the project begun, the resulting lines were finally blended, giving rise to our Metal Haze, a hybrid that received high praise from skeptic industry testers. Named after the metal-lit room that keeps our Haze clone collection alive, Metal Haze displays the brain-warping quality that fueled the legend. It is a modern, trippy cerebral sativa, with classic psychoactive soar and scant body cues. Connoisseurs report a deadly, creeper with no ceiling, combination of effects. The phenotype is fully suitable for indoor growing, with a branching habit resulting in an abundance of dense, oily, attractive buds. Aromas range from animal sour spice to sweet piney mint, often accompanied by rotten meat undertones. Overindulging the Metal Haze is not recommended for the sativa sensitive or the inexperienced. It is a deceptively smooth smoke that starts out uplifting and super-active -ideal for musicians and creative types- and climbs ever higher in a succession of intense waves, taking perception to uncharted lands. We trust the virtues bred into Metal Haze to earn its place in discriminating gardens, and satisfy demanding sativa aficionados.
Flower: 56 - 77 days
Indoor / Outoor
Yield: 450 - 500 grams/m²
Phenotype: Indica-sativa
Effect: Ultra Strong Sativa
Sam tried to preserve it and thats why its not really IBL like you say
Tom also goes to great lengths to keep everything even the hermis in the OP open pollenation
Some have tried and lost alot of the magic If you grow 100 and find 3 keepers
Once you start inbreeding you may find less than and it makes it tired thru inbreeding depression?
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to try out
The longer flowering types have a superior effect
Why Does Alkyl Chain Length Matter
Newly identified phytocannabinoids have four- and seven-carbon side alkyl chains
www.caymanchem.com
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AmericanFarmer
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Flower time 56-70 days ??? That’s got indica in it , I don’t care what they say . Thai or true NLD strains are LOOONG flowering varieties. No offense but the Dutch have messed up a lot of genetics. ( NOT ALL) but a lot. Just my 2 cents I do have a pack of Metal Haze X Burmese I think it’s called metal dragon.Dutch Flowers' Metal Haze Description
Experienced smokers know nothing comes close to the potency of a true Haze. Growers also know this, but long flowering periods, unruly phenotypes, and the infamous 1-in-5-crapshoot chance of finding a special female have held many back. Breeding an indoor-friendly Haze strain that consistently delivers superior potency has been the very focus of DF breeding efforts since its inception. To that end, the team has collected and grown enough clones and crosses to setup a small Haze museum. Synthesizing our best Haze genetics into one line posed a considerable challenge. In early trials, proven clones passed down their potency genes on to the next generations using an unacceptable, unpredictable domino pattern. To develop a superior seed line, males were tested the hard way, growing out their offspring to recognize the best possible pollen source. Winning donors pollinated our choicest females, and their offspring was then heavily selected at the second generation. Recombinant individuals displaying the desired potency, phenotype, flowering and yield traits were identified and inbred into separate lines. Three years after the project begun, the resulting lines were finally blended, giving rise to our Metal Haze, a hybrid that received high praise from skeptic industry testers. Named after the metal-lit room that keeps our Haze clone collection alive, Metal Haze displays the brain-warping quality that fueled the legend. It is a modern, trippy cerebral sativa, with classic psychoactive soar and scant body cues. Connoisseurs report a deadly, creeper with no ceiling, combination of effects. The phenotype is fully suitable for indoor growing, with a branching habit resulting in an abundance of dense, oily, attractive buds. Aromas range from animal sour spice to sweet piney mint, often accompanied by rotten meat undertones. Overindulging the Metal Haze is not recommended for the sativa sensitive or the inexperienced. It is a deceptively smooth smoke that starts out uplifting and super-active -ideal for musicians and creative types- and climbs ever higher in a succession of intense waves, taking perception to uncharted lands. We trust the virtues bred into Metal Haze to earn its place in discriminating gardens, and satisfy demanding sativa aficionados.
Flower: 56 - 77 days
Indoor / Outoor
Yield: 450 - 500 grams/m²
Phenotype: Indica-sativa
Effect: Ultra Strong Sativa
Sam tried to preserve it and thats why its not really IBL like you say
Tom also goes to great lengths to keep everything even the hermis in the OP open pollenation
Some have tried and lost alot of the magic If you grow 100 and find 3 keepers
Once you start inbreeding you may find less than and it makes it tired thru inbreeding depression?
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to try out
The longer flowering types have a superior effect
Why Does Alkyl Chain Length Matter
Newly identified phytocannabinoids have four- and seven-carbon side alkyl chains
acespicoli
Well-known member
Yeah alot the haze's are a little wide
Definitely not like Kerala or Thai NLD vibe
Definitely not like Kerala or Thai NLD vibe
AmericanFarmer
Active member
I agree my brother
Strawberry cough has haze in its pedigree. The best even left that beautiful church smell after being puffed.
Where does Kyle Kushman Strawberry Cough come from? Is it a selection from the old seed line from Dutch Passion or a different gene pool ?
I had a clone of Strawberry Cough selected by a friend around 2010/12, I made 2/3 runs with her before letting it go, she was pleasant sativa dom hybrid but no keeper material, she had a sweet lemony taste but no berries and the high was not really powerful, it was a nice tasty, easy ,day smoke. There is certainly much better ones to be found.
I had a clone of Strawberry Cough selected by a friend around 2010/12, I made 2/3 runs with her before letting it go, she was pleasant sativa dom hybrid but no keeper material, she had a sweet lemony taste but no berries and the high was not really powerful, it was a nice tasty, easy ,day smoke. There is certainly much better ones to be found.
