KidCharlemagne
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Much prefer the Irma Thomas version!
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Tom Hill Haze
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windmills
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Free Angela Davis - gotta be old to get that one.
Fortunately, we do have some old - timers here.
I'n sure everything's A-OK or we wouldda heard.
Just a presumption if in fact the wizard's still alive.
I have no reason to doubt any of the above at all.
Think this should be a speed bump in time overall.
Fortunately, we do have some old - timers here.
I'n sure everything's A-OK or we wouldda heard.
Just a presumption if in fact the wizard's still alive.
I have no reason to doubt any of the above at all.
Think this should be a speed bump in time overall.
windmills
Well-known member
tobedetermined said:
Hmm. Maybe I am just an old jaded salesman but it seems to me that TH is following textbook marketing strategy to create demand for his drop . . .
2. Information Scarcity
If you leak just enough information before launch, you can generate tremendous buzz as your audience searches everywhere for more information.
3. Leverage User-Generated Content
Sometimes creating demand for a product is as simple as letting your customers sell the experience for you.
4. Make It Exclusive
People generally want something more when they can’t have it. They demand to know why they can’t have it, what factor excludes them, and how they can possibly get access to it.
Guy seems totally sensible and reasonable to me. Maybe why he offends so many folks. Dunno, lol
I believe that with THH you get the same thing as with TH : The Real Deal. A No BS. Screaming Ride
I have only tried "derivations" that came from my direct blood relative, that came from his hands, in SC.
And : Anything that guy says, is purely and totally a long term MF consciousness ride, is good euuf for me.
Patience is a virtue that cannot be bought. We'll all need to earn our stripes, looks like, for a few more daze.
Hmm. Maybe I am just an old jaded salesman but it seems to me that TH is following textbook marketing strategy to create demand for his drop . . .
2. Information Scarcity
If you leak just enough information before launch, you can generate tremendous buzz as your audience searches everywhere for more information.
3. Leverage User-Generated Content
Sometimes creating demand for a product is as simple as letting your customers sell the experience for you.
4. Make It Exclusive
People generally want something more when they can’t have it. They demand to know why they can’t have it, what factor excludes them, and how they can possibly get access to it.
1. I mean if you look at this thread from the beginning, the hype was there while Tom was completely MIA for years. He really didn't have to do anything. He could have just been milking the cow the whole way through...
Blame MadMac for the Haze hype if anything, with his sexually explicit pictures making all NLD heads drool like crazy.
2.Info scarcity? How many breeders give as much info as Tom has about how they are doing their project? He told us the size of the growspace, light used, number of plants, filial generations he is using, ...
4.How is announcing $2/seed making it exclusive. Also, there are multiple THH repros and other OHz lines available, so it's the opposite of that. There is no real scarcity in Haze seeds at this point, it's more a scarcity of people willing to put the work in to grow and select them.
That doesn't mean he isn't cashing in on the Hype, but can you really blame anyone for trying to sell their product that didn't work so well for years when there is a surge of demand for it?
And it's not like he isn't putting serious work in his seed drop.
If anything the only real marketing Tom has done is to establish the credibility of his own product and make people question the quality of his competitors in a way that rang true for many.
Also, I don't see how you could attribute Tom's attitude in this thread to a textbook marketing strategy.
Cannamicably,
Thug
Guy seems totally sensible and reasonable to me. Maybe why he offends so many folks. Dunno, lol
I believe that with THH you get the same thing as with TH : The Real Deal. A No BS. Screaming Ride
I have only tried "derivations" that came from my direct blood relative, that came from his hands, in SC.
And : Anything that guy says, is purely and totally a long term MF consciousness ride, is good euuf for me.
Patience is a virtue that cannot be bought. We'll all need to earn our stripes, looks like, for a few more daze.
KidCharlemagne
Active member
Imagine giving this much energy to someone else's drunken ramblings. He's a dude who gets tanked up and picks fights, and y'all are building up narratives about "no nonsense. no bs." It's all just a mirror of your own egos and what you want to be able to do to other people. Gross.
tom has a roguish charisma, that's evident from listening to him on the potcast, he's funny, ..people been roasted generally is funny ..Saturday night live have whole episodes dedicated to it, Ricky Gervase at the golden globes/Oscars ect ect...but im more interested in toms haze and the ripp your head off phenos, that lets be honest, hardly anyone actually finds ......id like to know more about the acid pheno and what growers should actually be looking for ...unless people are expected to painstakingly smoke test 20, 30 even 60 females after growing out 100+ seeds
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and the" I doan need no steenkeen sedation” pheno
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windmills
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Imagine giving this much energy to someone else's drunken ramblings ... Gross.
I have no idea if you are referencing my post or not, along with your apparent band of gypsys.
I stick with a very tight knit group of friends who know each other by blood and over the decades.
If any of this is anything other than referring to yourself, I suggest you check out the man in the glass.
When you seek to call out others for their misdeeds or misgivings, the usual source is found in the mirror.
Everything you spot in others is an outward manifestation of yourself. I leave in total peace, and come as such.
Cheers To All
I have no idea if you are referencing my post or not, along with your apparent band of gypsys.
I stick with a very tight knit group of friends who know each other by blood and over the decades.
If any of this is anything other than referring to yourself, I suggest you check out the man in the glass.
When you seek to call out others for their misdeeds or misgivings, the usual source is found in the mirror.
Everything you spot in others is an outward manifestation of yourself. I leave in total peace, and come as such.
Cheers To All
Painstakingly smoke, lol.
I love having a stack of jars to test. Keeping track of clones while waiting for samples to cure, now that's a pain.
Everything I have read suggest that most of the not rip your head off phenos are still really good smoke.
People taking something posted on the web personally is what society has become. Soon AI will be their girly friends programmed to respond how they like. TH can post whatever he likes as any can. None of us know TH personally. He's prob much different IRL. Even if he isn't what TH does/doesn't do has no effect on me personally. Too many Chads LMAO.
HapiValleyFarms
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THH #8 indoor
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THH #8 Outdoors
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THH #8 Outdoors
acespicoli
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A few days ago over at Tom Hills camp
Looks good easy sorting a healthy crop of seed.
Looks good easy sorting a healthy crop of seed.
well for the average joe its a very big undertaking,.. growing out 100+ seeds then taking and keeping alive 50/60 cuttings ..then storing and testing 50/60 samples...some guidance on what to look for would be good for the community ,... tom can select purely by terp profile,... ,...lets share some of that knowledge
just do 10 at a time 10 runs etc
well of course you could, but then it might take as long as 4 or 5 years to strike gold .not exactly a quick turn over strain is it ,...those that know this line best should share their knowledge .. any help in separating the wheat from the chaff would be good no ?
Brother Nature
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It doesn't seem to me like any Haze, let alone Tom's, is for the average joe in any case.....
I'm not so sure about that , imo with the correct protocols any pure NLD can be grown and enjoyed by the average grower, including wild land races ..small pots, zero veg time , 13/11 light cycles ....we should be encouraging growers to try longer flowering genetics,...its where the best mood enhancing experiences are found as far as I'm concerned
sure help is usually useful,,as for time when it comes to breeding /selecting anything patience is required ,,after trying one pack i think youll have fun going thru em eitherway ,,example i didnt find the cream but i intended to keep one pheno around for a while as i liked the smoke and was a good yeilding plant i sadly lost a bunch of plants thru security issues including her but ive just fired up some beans from her to a laos male and im looking forward to trying them as while not the 5 % er she was decent to my taste
as long as the average grower realises hazes dont fall into average parameters ,,feed ,,time,,yeild etc its all good
