Tobacco increases THC levels in a spliff!

[Truthman]

just the other day in chat some of us were discussing how the term Spliff has been mis-used by newbies to refer to a joint rolled with cannabis and tobacco.

the term Spliff does not refer to mixing tobacco with cannabis, this is the fact. a Spliff is simply a term used to refer to bigger joints and/or coned shaped joints. that is all folks

"excuse me while I light my Spliff,
Oh God I got to take a lift"

Bob Marley rolled his Spliffs with pure cannabis, he cannot be wrong about the use of term

so please, stop calling Spliffs those things people roll with tobacco, thanks!

peace and health

This isn't entirely true because I know for a fact that blunts were first introduced to americans from jamaicans and other west indians because I come from where it was used in the early '80's. No one was talking about using cigars for weed for years to come unless you came from the area or surrounding areas in NYC.

Also, before rastas became widespread tobacco was mixed with weed in jamaica which would make sense being how england had an effect of the west indies. You can see this with their use of rizlas instead of baboo and other rolling papers to this day.

Overtime I think spliff has been associated with cones because of bob marley but before that it was a cigarette with herb mixed with it.

 

[~fvk~]

hey fvk,

I'm a "little kid" that smoked for over 10 years. You're an "old man" that doesnt know what the hell he's talking about.

ArcticBlast

Nah, you're a little kid because you didn't leave it at that. You gave me neg rep for my opinion, I see tons of shit that should get neg rep but I've never given it once. It's counterproductive and lame as hell. End of discussion... Go get a life.

And yeah, I've been smoking just as long as you...

 

[Sheriff Bart]

its just semantics you cant expect that on a board with people from all over teh world that every word is gunna mean the same damn thing

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

its just semantics you cant expect that on a board with people from all over teh world that every word is gunna mean the same damn thing

this has some truth to it indeed Sheriff Bart, but Spliff does not mean tobacco mixed with cannabis...

in any case, the biggest influence regarding ganja culture in Jamaica were indians, not the british, the very word ganja has its origins in the hindi language, moreover, indians do not mix tobacco and ganja together as far as I am aware of.

the only places in the caribean where I have been where some people mix tobacco and ganja together are Aruba and Curacao, the dutch influence. however, not everyone does it, many just smoke it pure. never ever seen a rastaman anywhere mix ganja and tobacco in their joints either, in fact, never have seen a true rastaman smoking ciggies, some do grow their tobacco rustica, but only smoke it if they grow it themselves. none drink alcohol either, unless it is a spirit they distilled themselves too, and drink it with a lot of moderation.

ital is vital.

peace and health to all

 

[JerseyDutch]

Truthman, do you actually advocate smoking tobacco if it is 'american spirit' brand? If I read your post right, I could swear that you don't think that you would wake up hacking and coughing, and get short of breath playing competitive sports if you were to somehow 'safely' integrate some tobacco smoking? Hmmmm...

Truthfully I used to smoke american spirits, and rollies of every brand, newports, marlboros, whatever. They are all TORTURE on your respitory/cardio.

EDIT - To me, spliff means fattie, but I always figgured that the folks across the pond meant put some backey in a cig. A friend of mine rolled one up one time. It sure made the rest of us laugh...

 

[pSi007]

I think tobacco has a lower tar and oil rating than cannabis. when then flame hits the tobacco it burns faster, rather than, cannabis. This leads to a hotter burn for tobacco. This, "hotter burn" will bind the smoke to the lungs faster than a slow and mild burn.


you are only increasing the temperature of the smoke, there by, making it easier to bind to the lungs.

Does not increase THC.. only nature and PsI007 can increase the THC

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

one more thought regarding the whole deal with the term spliff:

in any case, whether people call what they roll spliff, joint or whatever else, whether they roll it tobacco or without it, if you are to share it with others, let them know what is in it.

peace!

 

[Sheriff Bart]

lol yet you continue to try and say that no, a spliff is only this, jsut define it when you use it
i always refered to a spliff and tobacki and herb, and a joint was paper with only herb in it. i never gave two shits about the shape but w/e see thats semantics!!!

and tobacco is a fine plant, do some fuckin research if you want the truth. grow your own, fertilize it properly!!!!!!!!!!
Nicotiana rustica - this shit has so much nicotine that rubbing some on your skin will get you buzzin

sure nicotine is addictive and a 'poison'
but...
http://www.nootropic.com/nicotine/index.html
http://biopsychiatry.com/nicotine/neuroprotective.html
http://biopsychiatry.com/nicotine.htm

so FUCK COMMERCIALISM! GROW YOUR OWN!

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

lol yet you continue to try and say that no, a spliff is only this, jsut define it when you use it
i always refered to a spliff and tobacki and herb, and a joint was paper with only herb in it. i never gave two shits about the shape but w/e see thats semantics!!!

and tobacco is a fine plant, do some fuckin research if you want the truth. grow your own, fertilize it properly!!!!!!!!!!
Nicotiana rustica - this shit has so much nicotine that rubbing some on your skin will get you buzzin

so FUCK COMMERCIALISM! GROW YOUR OWN!

I never said anything against tobacco plants... anyway... you can call a horse a camel all you want, it won't make it a camel, regardless of your misunderstanding of what semantics really means.

Paz.

 

[_the420guy]

i quit smoking 3-4 month ago but i still add tobacco i find it help the weed burn better

 

[Marick23]

Wonder why they didn't do the test with a bong.

 

[jawnroot]

This is just another hack theory -- no offense meant to anyone. I've been hearing the myth that tobacco increases one's high since I was fifteen years old.

I've smoked cigs as long as I've smoked weed, and have rolled many joints with tobacco in them, and many joints with straight weed in them. Guess which ones got me higher? The ones with more weed! Go figure...

It's like saying 1 shot of vodka mixed with 1 shot of orange juice will give you a stronger buzz when compared to two straight shots of vodka, because the vitamin C in the OJ potentates the effects of alcohol. Sure, the relationship between booze and vitamin C might be true to some minimal extent, but when you try to apply that theory to real-world situations it doesn't pan out -- just like the weed/tobacco thing doesn't pan out.

While I'm on the myth-busting tip, the thing about one type of tobacco being safer than another type because it was grown in a different way is bull. All big agricultural companies use the same fertilizers and the same growing methods. If the "rock phosphate" fertilizers in tobacco give you cancer, then the tomatoes you buy at the store would give you cancer too, because they use the same ferts.

The simple fact of the matter is that tobacco has a whole host of nasty chemicals in it, regardless of where and how it's grown. It'll give you cancer or some other debilitating illness sooner or later. Weed will too if you're smoking it non stop, 20+ joints a day.

 

[THC123]

I've smoked cigs as long as I've smoked weed, and have rolled many joints with tobacco in them, and many joints with straight weed in them. Guess which ones got me higher? The ones with more weed! Go figure...

Well figure this , if u drink and smoke u get more wasted , well the effect of nicotine mixed with thc gives a stronger buzz , more stoned.

I have tested this over and over , as a matter of fact i quit smoking tobacco and am smoking pure now for a few days , and i just don't get stoned the way i got stoned when mixing it with tobacco.

Mixing drugs gives another effect and nicotine IS a drug

 

[kallenavndk]

Wonder why they didn't do the test with a bong.

I did it LOts of time ..i always smoke me Ganja Sick whit a Ciggaret...I toast it over a flame from a lighter in about 15-20 Sec x 4 and every time when i stop toast it i blow in it then toast blow etc...4 times then i add if its hash offcourse it depense on the quality but about 0,3-0,5 grams if its weed about 2-3 grams because i love the taste but i have to cut it in half hehe

When i do bong a toast the cigg much more lets say i can use a lighter because the flame will burn the cigg when i done it about 20 x 6 times and i need to do it at least 12 times ...and you guys know what i have absolutly no idea of why im doing this but it how we always done and then well i guess its in my Genes..I tryed to smoke it pure and whit out toast cigg aswell but ....i dont digg it .....

Peace out

 

[~fvk~]

lol yet you continue to try and say that no, a spliff is only this, jsut define it when you use it
i always refered to a spliff and tobacki and herb, and a joint was paper with only herb in it. i never gave two shits about the shape but w/e see thats semantics!!!

and tobacco is a fine plant, do some fuckin research if you want the truth. grow your own, fertilize it properly!!!!!!!!!!
Nicotiana rustica - this shit has so much nicotine that rubbing some on your skin will get you buzzin

sure nicotine is addictive and a 'poison'
but...
http://www.nootropic.com/nicotine/index.html
http://biopsychiatry.com/nicotine/neuroprotective.html
http://biopsychiatry.com/nicotine.htm

so FUCK COMMERCIALISM! GROW YOUR OWN!

Kinda funny because sometimes cannabis revegs and comes back looking like that. Apples and oranges though... But yeah, if we don't quit smoking corpo cancer sticks, we're all gonna die of cancer. That's if we don't all kill each other first...

 

[HairlessCaveApe]

If Ya do wanna smoke tobaco, do like Sheriff Bart dose. Then mabey youl havew a chance. I garentee that The Sheriff's tobaco is a million worlds away from that cancer tit marboro. Or any other crapp cigaret out there today.

 

[swishaman]

IDK if anyone has mentioned this, but in Denmark I believe? A village/town called Christiana I believe? Anyways, they "burned" their cigarette before even breaking it up.. I believe it vaporizes or just burns off a fair amount of the chemicals..

Never tried it, but if you're looking to experiment.... be my guest

They just hold the cig horizontally and lightly hold a lighter beneath it, while spinning the cig.. the paper turns a yellow/brown color of done properly..


Personally, I wish there was some flavorless,odorless,non harmful additive we could use as filler in joints.. as sometimes I want to smoke one, but do not want to 'waste' a gram or more, just because I feel like smoking one..

 

[Greens]

Smoking tobacco with herb is one of the grossest things you can do to your bud! If you want to "vaporize" the THC more efficiently, get a good vaporizer and pack it with herb. Don't foul it up with tobacco!

All tobacco does is adds a sickening weird feeling to the buzz and its not enjoyable. Plus, it tastes gross and causes cancer, so what on earth would be the point?

Greens

Greens

 

[jawnroot]

Well figure this , if u drink and smoke u get more wasted , well the effect of nicotine mixed with thc gives a stronger buzz , more stoned.

I have tested this over and over , as a matter of fact i quit smoking tobacco and am smoking pure now for a few days , and i just don't get stoned the way i got stoned when mixing it with tobacco.

Mixing drugs gives another effect and nicotine IS a drug

I hear what you're saying, but if you smoke cigarettes for more than about a day, they don't get you "high" any more. You feel a bit more relaxed, and might get somewhat of a buzz first thing in the morning, but if you actually smoke cigs on the regular, they don't give you that nitrous-esq nicotine high that non-smokers get.

My point was that if you mix tobacco in with ganja -- in a spliff -- you're necessarily lowering the amount of ganja that spliff can hold. Ergo, you end up smoking less weed -- and as a consequence, get less high.

I'm sorry, but as I said above I just don't buy this 'baccy weed theory -- this coming from someone that has smoked both for over a decade. If anyone is noticing a marked difference between tobacco + weed and weed alone, then they're suffering from placebo, they're not breaking their weed up well enough when they roll, and/or they don't smoke tobacco regularly, and are getting a nicc buzz.

Just bypass all this nonsense and Roor the hell outta your tweed. If you don't get really fuckin' high from that, you should start looking into booze or something else.

 

[Truthman]

Truthman, do you actually advocate smoking tobacco if it is 'american spirit' brand? If I read your post right, I could swear that you don't think that you would wake up hacking and coughing, and get short of breath playing competitive sports if you were to somehow 'safely' integrate some tobacco smoking? Hmmmm...

Truthfully I used to smoke american spirits, and rollies of every brand, newports, marlboros, whatever. They are all TORTURE on your respitory/cardio.

EDIT - To me, spliff means fattie, but I always figgured that the folks across the pond meant put some backey in a cig. A friend of mine rolled one up one time. It sure made the rest of us laugh...

Yes I do BUT I don't advocate smoking all day just 1-2 cigs a day if that. If you have a pipe I suggest even less.

One cig lasted me a week or two if I smoked it in by pipe (raydiator) or a bong 2-3 times a day because I didn't need that much to feel good because I always smoked 3- min.- 1 hr. after I ate a whole meal to make sure I would get the best effects from smoking therefore needing less of it.

Mixing A LITTLE tobacco with some weed is the best rush you can get and I need less to get high and it last more meaning the high because I feel more high than stoned. There is a difference.