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Tips on renting a house
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BreederBrad2: Nice! Way to go man 
Thing about apts is how would you manage to power up 7k watts in a ghetto apartment building? Or its just my stereotype that all apartments are piece of shit when it comes to electricity supply in there?
Btw, my question still stands if anyone knows how to provide a 5-7k watts into a room, should i hire an electrician to do it?
Thing about apts is how would you manage to power up 7k watts in a ghetto apartment building? Or its just my stereotype that all apartments are piece of shit when it comes to electricity supply in there?Btw, my question still stands if anyone knows how to provide a 5-7k watts into a room, should i hire an electrician to do it?
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Brad
most apts i seen got 100 amp service,get a timer board made up,plug it into the stove plug you can run 3 lights at 240volt of that,and use 3 lights at 120volt,each on its own seperate 15 amp breaker...pretty simple..hold on ill upload some pics....
ok here ya go
timer board 240v timed
here's a timer board and a flip flop box
ok here ya go
timer board 240v timed
here's a timer board and a flip flop box
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Nice grow and good advice breederbrad :Rasta:
Even in a large ghetto style apartment complex, there are sometimes building superintendants living on the premesis that come snooping around for so called "maintenance" reasons.
Exactly, most landlords do this so they can sneak in and snoop around when you're not around. They always have some lame ass key copy excuse about water heaters etc and being able to take care of emergency problems when you're away, but that is just total bullcrap.
The nosey snoopy troublesome landlords usually just stop by and knock on the door to see if you're home. If they get no answer, they'll walk around to the back door and knock again, then after no answer they'll whip out their key and begin snooping. The real careful nosey ones will call your landline just to be sure you're away before they enter.
You want to avoid these kinds of snoopy ass landlords at all costs, and the absolute best way is to change the locks as soon as you've moved your furniture in !
The whole point of changing the locks immediatly, is that you'll know right away, within the first month or two if you have a snoopy landlord situation. The snoopy ass control freak types will be at the door or on the phone to you in no time once they find out the locks have been changed out. When they ask for a key copy, give it to them and change the locks again the next day. Now you'll have to wait again to see if they find out. A real snoopy nosey landlord will end up calling you again bitching about keys, you might as well forget about growing there and need to buy out of the lease asap and move, because its 100% sure thing they'll always be snooping.
You want an absentee landlord who never comes over to visit, never even drives by to see if the lawns being mowed. Mow it weekly, every saturday like clockwork. The best way not to call attention to yourself by the neighbors, is to be seen as a good neighbor who cares about how the lawn looks.
Its pretty easy though, to spot an anal-retentive snoopy ass control freak landlord before you ever sign the lease. Just mention that the locks are cheap junk and you'll have to install your own high quality locks if you're going to be leasing the house.
If he says ok but he'll need a set of keys per the lease rhetoric, bail out for another reason and look elsewhere.
Even in a large ghetto style apartment complex, there are sometimes building superintendants living on the premesis that come snooping around for so called "maintenance" reasons.
Exactly, most landlords do this so they can sneak in and snoop around when you're not around. They always have some lame ass key copy excuse about water heaters etc and being able to take care of emergency problems when you're away, but that is just total bullcrap.
The nosey snoopy troublesome landlords usually just stop by and knock on the door to see if you're home. If they get no answer, they'll walk around to the back door and knock again, then after no answer they'll whip out their key and begin snooping. The real careful nosey ones will call your landline just to be sure you're away before they enter.
You want to avoid these kinds of snoopy ass landlords at all costs, and the absolute best way is to change the locks as soon as you've moved your furniture in !
The whole point of changing the locks immediatly, is that you'll know right away, within the first month or two if you have a snoopy landlord situation. The snoopy ass control freak types will be at the door or on the phone to you in no time once they find out the locks have been changed out. When they ask for a key copy, give it to them and change the locks again the next day. Now you'll have to wait again to see if they find out. A real snoopy nosey landlord will end up calling you again bitching about keys, you might as well forget about growing there and need to buy out of the lease asap and move, because its 100% sure thing they'll always be snooping.
You want an absentee landlord who never comes over to visit, never even drives by to see if the lawns being mowed. Mow it weekly, every saturday like clockwork. The best way not to call attention to yourself by the neighbors, is to be seen as a good neighbor who cares about how the lawn looks.
Its pretty easy though, to spot an anal-retentive snoopy ass control freak landlord before you ever sign the lease. Just mention that the locks are cheap junk and you'll have to install your own high quality locks if you're going to be leasing the house.
If he says ok but he'll need a set of keys per the lease rhetoric, bail out for another reason and look elsewhere.
The real scoop is this:
there ain't no goddamn ghetto in canada.
I've seen whatchall call ghetto and let me tell you:
come to Oakland with what you call ghetto.
'Sright!
Canada ain't got guns and crack fiends oozing out of every block like the west or the
east.
So before you're advising folks on that tip, live it!
Peace, Love & Coco
there ain't no goddamn ghetto in canada.
I've seen whatchall call ghetto and let me tell you:
come to Oakland with what you call ghetto.
'Sright!
Canada ain't got guns and crack fiends oozing out of every block like the west or the
east.
So before you're advising folks on that tip, live it!
Peace, Love & Coco
Jesusbuiltmygro
Member
How about you buy a shitty house instead. It could be far away from you and still well worth it. Don't be scared to buy a house you know. Unless you have no credit, it's a smarter idea. You can sell at any time and more or less get your equity out. Rent it out when you don't need it. You want to do a big grow with minimal impact to the living space, it's a pain in the ass, and when your done you'll do all that again next time ?
I mean it's not a good time to sell a house, but it's a good time to buy one for awhile
Most people don't think of house purchases as ways to get your equity back from renting, but that's what they are. If it's a low cost buy, closing cost and all will be low enough and you can own it for a year or three and sell even though you haven't paid it off yet. Most people just aren't that savy and fall into the rent trap or don't have the credit. These days those houses can be found for under 100k all over the place. You could pay less in mortgage then you'll probably pay in rent in most areas and have full security and own the freaking house or part of it's equity at least, so you know probably get your rent back if not more since home values are down, but rent is still pretty high. That's why converting it to a rental when you done is good. Then if the necessity arises you can either buy another place and do the same thing, or raise rent until they move out sucks for them though. Anyway, I'd prefer that method. People won't question you buying a house and not living in it for awhile, (especially a fixer upper) and moving stuff into it and being there only occasionally just makes you look like a house flipper. House prices are MUCH better in rural areas or in the ghetto as others suggest.
Don't forget outdoor growing, its a whole different world, but you can yield tremendous amounts with little work (if nature allows). Just don't do BIG plots that would be worth a stake out.
An out of town landlord def seems like a must, using a real estate agent seems smart.
Cohorts can be good for this, but are high liabilities. People around you may notice you're odd hours quickly. There are probably even better opportunities in commercial space, in which landlords are even less likely to be interested and high electric bills are normal. You could open a store
The risk is significant, so paying a little extra to be safe is well worth it.
I mean it's not a good time to sell a house, but it's a good time to buy one for awhile
Most people don't think of house purchases as ways to get your equity back from renting, but that's what they are. If it's a low cost buy, closing cost and all will be low enough and you can own it for a year or three and sell even though you haven't paid it off yet. Most people just aren't that savy and fall into the rent trap or don't have the credit. These days those houses can be found for under 100k all over the place. You could pay less in mortgage then you'll probably pay in rent in most areas and have full security and own the freaking house or part of it's equity at least, so you know probably get your rent back if not more since home values are down, but rent is still pretty high. That's why converting it to a rental when you done is good. Then if the necessity arises you can either buy another place and do the same thing, or raise rent until they move out
sucks for them though. Anyway, I'd prefer that method. People won't question you buying a house and not living in it for awhile, (especially a fixer upper) and moving stuff into it and being there only occasionally just makes you look like a house flipper. House prices are MUCH better in rural areas or in the ghetto as others suggest. Don't forget outdoor growing, its a whole different world, but you can yield tremendous amounts with little work (if nature allows). Just don't do BIG plots that would be worth a stake out.
An out of town landlord def seems like a must, using a real estate agent seems smart.
Cohorts can be good for this, but are high liabilities. People around you may notice you're odd hours quickly. There are probably even better opportunities in commercial space, in which landlords are even less likely to be interested and high electric bills are normal. You could open a store
The risk is significant, so paying a little extra to be safe is well worth it.
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Brad
here's a tip go f u c k yourself....keep your pussy gangsta shit outta of this thread,you bay area beeyatch,its about tips on renting a house,not im an internet tuff guy,hehehehumble1 said:
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Have been thinking about industrial space. What do yall think about that? It has a big plus you can use electricity without looking suspicious and also can be "dirty" compared to house. No dealing with drywall carpets and hardwoods. Any thoughts on how small warehouse would stack up against house grows?
WhiteWolfman
Member
First off, be sure to put any growroom as far away from appliances/inner workings of house as possible. IN other words make it so that if they do need to come in and fix something important , they wont be going in anywhere near the growspace.
Also keep all equipment fertilizer out o view of any potential guests.
AND DON'T ****ING TEL ANYBODY!
AS A RENTER YOU DO HAVE RIGHTS AND IN MOST CASES THEY NEED TO GIVE YOU 24-48 HOURS NOTICE BEFORE THEY CAN ENTER FOR ANY REASON!
Also keep all equipment fertilizer out o view of any potential guests.
AND DON'T ****ING TEL ANYBODY!
AS A RENTER YOU DO HAVE RIGHTS AND IN MOST CASES THEY NEED TO GIVE YOU 24-48 HOURS NOTICE BEFORE THEY CAN ENTER FOR ANY REASON!
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Brad
small warehouse would be great.if you can do it,i say go for it!
PEACE
PEACE
Surfnfisher
Member
The one thing I didnt see anyone really bring up is, Rent a bigger house. A 1-2 or small 3 bedroom house usually uses alot less elect. A 4-5 uses alot more. 2-3 bathroom/ my bathrooms have like frikin 500 watts of lightbulbs in each one. Each bedroom can have computers tv. spa/hottub, Get a free broken hot tub. dont even hook it up. Just have it in the yard and It will look hooked up. A bigger house in a less desireable hood will cost less then a small house in a nicer hood.
If you rent industrial, YOu may need a resellers licence to prove you are a business. Also make sure the industrial space has some interior walls, so when you enter nobody can see in when the doors are open
If you rent industrial, YOu may need a resellers licence to prove you are a business. Also make sure the industrial space has some interior walls, so when you enter nobody can see in when the doors are open
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yamaha_1fan
Commercial space is the way to go if you can. I rented one and told them we were using it for personal reasons, to store bikes, 4 wheelers, and other toys. No problem.
If renting, try to get a fake id and rent in another name. If it goes to shit, you are in the clear. You can also hook up utilities in the business name and get DSL/Cable, then you can monitor the grow remotely. Cameras on doors, cameras monitoring the exterior.
Electric in a commercial space will be easy. Every business has different needs. I have had multiple warehouses for business and the worst that can happen is you are above the last tenants average and they need more deposit.
It may be tougher venting out heat though as you wont be able to cut through the roof, walls or floor. I had a big heat problem in a warehouse that I rented. Didnt cool the lights properly, and had 3 window units running inside the warehouse.
If renting, try to get a fake id and rent in another name. If it goes to shit, you are in the clear. You can also hook up utilities in the business name and get DSL/Cable, then you can monitor the grow remotely. Cameras on doors, cameras monitoring the exterior.
Electric in a commercial space will be easy. Every business has different needs. I have had multiple warehouses for business and the worst that can happen is you are above the last tenants average and they need more deposit.
It may be tougher venting out heat though as you wont be able to cut through the roof, walls or floor. I had a big heat problem in a warehouse that I rented. Didnt cool the lights properly, and had 3 window units running inside the warehouse.
Vermonster
Active member
This is interesting, would be even better if i was a cop looking for info, now if i was a grower or had the basic ability to think logically i would know all this; think this should have been more private, cause don't forget they def. check these boards for info if for nothing else. And some of These things them geniuses probably wouldn't think of themselves either. Now they know, timers, BBQ's and bad areas, check!
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This made me giggle, they can't find a grow that uses 10k watts but now (because of my thread in the whole internet world) they will somehow know that this TV in this particular location was turned on by the timer. Better yet, anyone who has BBQ really grows and "bad areas" are no longer known as a place for angels and is now known as a nest of drug dealers - and all this since the beginning of my thread.
Everything that was stated in here, were tips on how to BLEND IN the rest of the population, which means to help people stay safe. and did you try to call me a cop? Heh, gtfo please. leo knows more secrets from their experience, than we would ever think of. And you should reconsider pot if it makes your IQ level go down. That is if you were high when you posted, if you weren't my condolences.
PS. bad places are called ghettos.
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Surfnfisher said:
Surfnfisher, "bingo"
like all the people are saying general rule is 1k watt per room, the bigger the house the better. i once was at someones townhouse and the dude had 5 powerfull PC's in his room with big ass monitors printers and what not. And I've been thinking that's atleast 3k watt right there in a small room.By the way guys can I receive pms if I have less than 50 posts, could anyone try and tell me?
Vermonster
Active member
Fik- It was a joke for the most part...and no i didnt intend to call you a cop...i do however think that LEO shares information as can be scene on the DEA's site; if you look under publications they have monthly bulletins explaning the diffrent methods and tricks they have encountred across the country. So, Although most of what was said is common sense and probably could not be used to actualy track someone down, if they can prove that things such as those described, obviously not the common things like BBQ's and neighborhoods, but some of the more specfic things are going on in a house they may be able to use that for a warrant if they can prove that it is a common trick of the trade so to speak. Since no normal household would put a TV on a timer maybe LEO looks through the window sees a timer on the outlet the TV is plugged into, maybe they wouldn't think twice about that, but if they had recived a bulletin from the DEA stating that this was a common tactic used by MJ growers well then there you go....i know that is behyond pnoid but hey there ae plenty of people sitting in cages for partaking in this sport; especialy the ones who are doing it for reasons other then personal use. I just figure why give them more info then they already have...no harsh feelings...and yes i was stoned on some OG diesel and it was one am so give a brother a break. You can't get PM's yet because they probably want to make sure your kosher before people go PMing you top secret info, but since most people seem happy to just post out in the wide open i guess that don't matter JK. take it easy.
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Brad
Why even pipe up if you have no info on this topic?big deal this is standard stuff.you think the cops dont know all this already?its a free world where i am and ill say whatever i feel like saying,and if i or any other grower wants to give good info for free thats my bizness not yours,so either give tips on renting a house/apt/warehouse or keep your parinoia out of this thread.PeriodVermonster said:
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Brad
And further more if your under investigation,and they think theres pot in the house there going in and getting it,they will lie to get a warrant.if nothings there oh well they dont care
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Brad
dont do the crime if ya cant do the time
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gratefuldawg
Loose lips sink ships. Don't tell anyone. Don't even tell your closest friends, **** it. Try to put everything in one room, get a hydro hut for veg plants. If the landlord ever comes over.."god damnit, I told my roomate to leave his key on the counter..he accused me of putting viruses on his computer,yada yada". Those were the exact words that came out of my mouth once. haha
Make sure if they do come over, you have your hair parted, khaki pants, and a polo shirt. Also do that when you sign the lease.
#1.. Don't tell no one, so much better being able to get high in peace. and smell..keep the skunk in the cage.
Make sure if they do come over, you have your hair parted, khaki pants, and a polo shirt. Also do that when you sign the lease.
#1.. Don't tell no one, so much better being able to get high in peace. and smell..keep the skunk in the cage.
