Timothy Treadwell AKA The Grizzly Man Autopsy Photos

[ROJO145]

Wild animals are unpredictable,thats a given.But in his own mind he was doing something he thought worthy and meaningful and died doing it.
We should all be so brave and dedicated to die as honorable a death as he did.
Maybe he was stupid maybe he was an asshole,the man died doing what HE thought was worth it.Half you trash talkin assholes should be so lucky.The man had more metal and mustard than any of you could hope for.
A mountain gorilla can rip a grown mans arm out easier than farting,yet no ones calling Diane Fossey a fucking idiot,or good for her she deserved it etc etc
Have some fucking respect and try not to be assholes all the time.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^these are the stories that made me decide to carry a gun in the wilderness. It is not a game out there. Even if you dont die, the farthest hospital is still pretty far away. I mean, do you really wanna lose an arm in the proccess of fighing off a bear, or waiting for it to be full, and done with eating you? Most attacks can be avoided with common sense though. Alot of people get them selves attacked.

 

[ROJO145]

Wrap this one around yer beans.......maybe,just maybe,He Knew The Risk??

 

[Classyathome]

A mountain gorilla can rip a grown mans arm out easier than farting,yet no ones calling Diane Fossey a fucking idiot,or good for her she deserved it etc etc

That is a very good point, and I hadn't thought of that aspect. Thanks.

I'd add that the higher operating primate might have offered a better chance, but they are both top o' food chain kinda beasts.

I maybe tip it towards the primate, again, because of the hard wired meat predator/killer of the Grizzly, slightly more so than the omni/veggie great ape.

But that was a good point...

And the apes didn't kill Diane - we humans took care of that...

 

[LolaGal]

Not only did Timothy Treadwell know the risk, he relished the risk, it made him feel alive, from what I've heard him say. Now, we all knew it was just a matter of time before he got eaten.

However, he did have a lot of bears that were accustomed to his presence and tended to ignore him for the most part. Timothy would usually leave 2 or 3 weeks earlier each year than he did the last time he went out. The bears accustomed to his presence were supposedly gone elsewhere, allowing non-dominant bears back into the territory he was camping in. This meant weaker, starving bears that usually were fought away had access to Timothy and his camp. At least that is what Timothy said in his last season's film clips.

No one deserves to get eaten by a bear. However, my Grandma always said, "Play with fire and you're gonna get burned." Common sense says one needs something to defend yourself with like a BIG gun if you're gonna run with Grizzlies.

After researching Timothy Treadwell and watching all his work I had access to, I tend to think Timothy was depressed and thought being eaten by a bear might validate his work and get it more attention.

Any one from Alaska got access to those autopsy reports, photos, etc.? Wouldn't this make an interesting film? What really happened at the camp? I'd love to piece the crime scene together, or read those reports.

I am sad he got eaten. Nobody else is crazy enough to do what he did and let me watch it in my living room where it's nice and bear free.

 

[genkisan]

A mountain gorilla can rip a grown mans arm out easier than farting,yet no ones calling Diane Fossey a fucking idiot,or good for her she deserved it etc etc
Have some fucking respect and try not to be assholes all the time.

First off, Dian Fossey was murdered by a machete blow to the head, not killed by gorillas....



Secondly she was doing real research, and had years of field work behind her before she started getting close to the gorillas.

Third off, gorillas don't eat meat.

Treadwell was a doofus with a deathwish....period.

 

[GET MO]

Ima california bear.

 

[NOKUY]

. Nobody else is crazy enough to do what he did

there is a guy that lives in the bush near skwentna alaska that has a bunch of grizzly bears that hang out at his place....if i remember right the guy is a retired school teacher, and he doesnt "study" or interfere w/ the bears, but they live amongst eachother peacefully...give me a min. and ill try to find his story.

 

[LolaGal]

there is a guy that lives in the bush near skwentna alaska that has a bunch of grizzly bears that hang out at his place....if i remember right the guy is a retired school teacher, and he doesnt "study" or interfere w/ the bears, but they live amongst eachother peacefully...give me a min. and ill try to find his story.

Sorry, I think he got ate the year after Timothy Treadwell, if I'm thinking of the same guy you described. Oops! Filet O Teacher......lol

 

[NOKUY]

ok ....here ya go.....theres a video in that link too:

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Story?id=5288312&page=1

Living With Bears, Playing by His Own Rules
'There's Just Something About a Grizzly Bear That's Hypnotic'
By KIMBERLY LAUNIER and JAY SCHADLER
July 8, 2008
SHARE Alaska is a land of contrasts. Flying 30 minutes out in a bush plane will transport a visitor to another world, somewhere over the rainbow trout streams to a place where one man's dreams do come true.

As both Charles Vandergaw and his bear companions get older, injuries follow.A look out the window reveals glaciers floating near lush forests. It's bear country, unspoiled, as nature intended -- and then altered by man. It is a fitting place for Charlie Vandergaw to play by his own rules.

By anyone's standard, Vandergaw lives a life less ordinary. The 70-year-old retired science teacher from Anchorage, Alaska, has spent the last two decades in the remote bush, where by his own choice his closest neighbors are animals powerful enough to kill him with a swipe of their 5-inch claws.

"That's what I like about Alaska, because I can live like I want to live. Fish or hunt, and you don't have to answer to anyone out here. You're not controlled by other people," Vandergaw said.


"I think I'm mesmerized by grizzly bears. I love the black bears, but there's just something about a grizzly bear that is hypnotic to me," Vandergaw said.


Under the Spell of Bears
Vandergaw has admittedly succumbed to the spell of bears. He carved a life for himself out of the pine roots and dirt on 40 acres of land in this last frontier.


"I got started on this innocently enough," Vandergaw said. "I was living out here alone, and they became friends. They sought me out. A couple different ones actually came in and sought my friendship, and once I had that happen to me I was lost."

He built a cabin called Bear Haven and a few outpost buildings but has left most of his land untouched. Yet such beguiling peace can lure visitors into forgetting this is the kingdom of grizzlies.

Vandergaw's life depends on his remembering.

"There's something about their aura, the way they look at you. It's a whole different energy level than the black bears. You know something is about to explode when a grizzly comes in," Vandergaw said.

Can Humans and Bears Live Side by Side?
Last year Vandergaw invited British filmmaker Jon Alwen to Bear Haven to document what conventional wisdom had always deemed impossible: a human peacefully co-existing with a bunch of wild bears.

For 51 days, Alwen filmed Vandergaw in his hidden world, one where the line of what's possible -- and what some experts say should never be dared -- was long ago crossed by a man driven by something more powerful than instinct: his own obsession.

"I'm obsessed with touching the bears," Vandergaw admitted

Vandergaw's innate ability to decipher the bears' nuanced behaviors and sounds, coupled with his food handouts conditioning them to his presence -- has transformed him into a modern day Grizzly Adams.

"You've got to listen constantly. After a while, you find out that certain vocalizations demand more attention than others. That roaring that the grizzlies do, that's just bear talk. They're just yelling at each other," Vandergaw said.

Defying Conventional Wisdom
Although bears are naturally solitary animals, on any given day large numbers can be found surrounding Vandergaw's cabin as they noisily anticipate their handouts. Vandergaw's food bucket is a magnet for black bears and grizzlies alike as he wades into the crowd of bears carrying only a stick for protection.


Vandergaw does not permit the use of deadly force. It was a risk Alwen accepted when he followed Vandergaw in with the bears and documented an extraordinary scene of faith and fear. At any moment he was only a hand-reach away from grizzlies that can weigh more than half a ton. As aggression erupted within this rare mix of bear species, Vandergaw gave Alwen stage direction that possibly saved his life:

"All right, stay right behind me," Vandergaw directed.

It was a remarkable moment caught on film and never seen before in the United States until now.

"Just to see someone get that close to the grizzlies and the black bears and all the confusion seems insane. But it's like taking something out of context. I mean, you have to see the whole thing, you have to understand the number of years of experience. Of course saying all of that, I can get chewed on tomorrow," Vandergaw admitted.

And that's what has experts like Sean Farley, a bear biologist for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, so worried.

It's a definite safety concern. One of these days, the bear will come back and not Charlie [Vandergaw]," Farley said.

Charlie Vandergaw is a 70 year old retired science teacher who has chosen a life less than ordinary. Vandergaw has spent the last two decades in the remote Alaskan bush with bears as his closest neighbors. Over the years Vandergaw has conditioned the bears with food and grown close the these dangerous animals. His remarkable story has been documented by British filmmaker Jon Alwen.

Bonding With the Bears
Throughout the summers, Vandergaw has watched generations of bears come and go. He knows most by name, including Walt, a 500-pound wild animal who walks right into his kitchen.

"If I can control him in here and keep him from tearing things up then I'll let him in. He's been in here for years," Charlie revealed.

It's the surprising evolution of man who began as a hunter, when this land was a hunter's paradise. Gradually, the hunter hung up his gun.

"I couldn't kill a porcupine if it was chewing on the cabin," Vandergaw said.

Remarkably, much of his transformation from hunter-of-bears to steward of Bear Haven is captured on videotape he shot himself.

"I had a bear that would not approach me unless it was dragging itself on its belly. I let him do that for a while, and then I started dragging myself to him. And when we touched noses, then he'd get up and we'd go about our business," Vandergaw remembered.

That first moment of contact, which Vandergaw described it as "terrifying" and a "leap of faith," changed everything.


Over the years, certain bears have taken up permanent residence in Vandergaw's heart. He feels particularly close with a grizzly he calls "Cookie."

"She was the first grizzly that I ever made friends with. And it was all on her terms," he said. "She just was very timid at first, but then I could tell that she was lonely. And she just, she just liked to play. She'd come in and just play with the irrigation system and I'd feed her. She eventually let me feed her out of my hand."

Vandergaw will be the first to say that by feeding the bears at his cabin -- which is illegal in Alaska -- he has created an unnatural, natural place, at least to the edge of his lawn.

"I've created a fairyland here. This is not the real world. This is a place that they feel very comfortable in. They're comfortable with me, and they're comfortable with other humans here," Vandergaw said.

But for how long? Farley is cautious about the fate of anyone who wants to get close to these predators.

"Why do we want to give a hug to something that's big, warm and fuzzy? The difference here is, this big, warm fuzzy thing will rip your head off and eat you, depending on the circumstance," Farley said

You can watch more of Charlie Vandergaw's life among bears on Animal Planet's "Bear Man Diaries" airing this fall. For more information on Alaskan bears and wildlife, visit the Alaska Department of Fish and Game.

i hadnt seen the story in quite a while so i forgot some of the details.....didnt recall him being so "hands-on"

 

[NOKUY]

alaska bear attacks is on discovery channel right now too

 

[Bodhita]

I don't get peoples obsession for blood and gore...

 

[zoidb3rg]

I saw a badass show on Bears, I believe NGEO channel. They showed how Black Bears are the least dangerous, then they showed the gnarly claws and habits of Grizzlies and they are some amazing bundles of power, their claws are like freddy Kruegers nails...

Then they showed how Polar Bears actually were Grizzlies that evolved over the years as the climate changed and trapped abunch in the Icy areas of the north. Their claws and necks actually changed and they became even more adapted to hunting animals and surviving in sub zero temps. I had no idea that a Polar Bear was actually a gnarly mutant Grizzly...

I saw that, was fucking brilliant, i've never heard of this treadwell bloke, but he obviously didn't tread very fucking well if he got eaten, No pun intended . bolloks is there no tape left of it either, would be kept as evidence somewhere, just needs a crooked and slightly nerdy cop to copy it or something.

Might wiki him now if i can be bothered, Smoking some weird weed at the mo, Making me very tired.

 

[subrob]

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[Hash Zeppelin]

^ya, no one gets mad anyore when people call O.J. a crazy double murdering motherfucker.

 

[El_Kabong]

another one bites the dust

 

[h^2 O]

from what H20 said, she stayed in the tent? and said They're still out there, or something similar, indicating to me she stayed in the tent a while before being lured out by Tim's agonized screams of pain. .

yeah the people closely involved (family and authorities) who've listened to the audio all agree that in the beginning she's like "it's still out there?" and then a few minutes later is when Timothy is heard saying "get out here! i'm getting killed out here!." Then she's supposed to be heard saying "play dead" or he says "playing dead isn't working" and that's when he ends up telling her to go..like "run! get out of here!" Then you hear the whacking of the pan and then I guess the rest is history.

 

[h^2 O]

girlfriend? cmon, why dont they just say friend? i believe he knew more about bears then he did women. not that it matters in the slightest, but cmon now.......

yeah something wasn't right there. Maybe too much Fruitloops. Not that there's anything wrong with that

 

[h^2 O]

she had no arms.---on her first DAY working in alaska, she was attacked by a griz, he chewed one of her arms off, then left her to rot(as they tend to do) she woke up, keyed her radio to get help, the bear heard it, came back, chewed her other arm off. she still works in alaska, still works around bears, but i will never forget her answer when one of the idiots in camp asked her if she was scared of bears----" what the fuck do you think?"

no fuckin WAY DUDE! OMG! Poor girl. That is horrible. I can't believe that. IS this true? The bear heard the radio and came back and chewed off her other arm? That's some sadistic shit...that bear wasn't right in the head. Shit man.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

Natural Selection at work here folks.