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Time for icmag to embrace "Kaizen", So how about new forum software????

Time for icmag to embrace "Kaizen", So how about new forum software????

  • yes

    Votes: 13 37.1%
  • no

    Votes: 5 14.3%
  • don't care

    Votes: 17 48.6%

  • Total voters
    35

theJointedOne

Well-known member
Veteran
Iv'e been a part of this website since it started.

It used to be the place to be, but the past couple years the site traffic has really dwindled down.

The last time this site got a new look, it went from awesome to complete shit, imho. I was told the reason was so mobile users could have easier access. All it did imo was make this place much harder to navigate and less user friendly.

I'm proposing we change to XenForo software to run this site.

Please check out fuckcombustion,com which is a great vaping site, and check out the forum software. It is very customizable, and extremely user friendly, unlike icmag. Also here is the wiki on the software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XenForo

I don't see how anyone could argue against a change. There should be money from the server funds to handle this, if im not mistaken. If not then that needs to be addressed. If there isn't money in the server funds then maybe some of the folks who are supposedly running this site can look in the mirror and get their shit together, or hand the responsibility off to those who can and want to handle it. As cannabis is normalized across the globe, now is a the time to rekindle this website and make it a beacon that attracts more people and organizations who want to share and learn, and propagate knowledge about this plant.

Icmag is one of my favorite destinations in the world, where people who may be a world away can share with each other the knowledge and experiences involved in growing this plant. The site has opened doors to me that i never dreamed possible. I know it's done the same for many others as well. Sadly bc of the shit that went down here, most of the og's and real great contributors have left, and the doors for members to share with each other aren't as plentiful.

And ill end with the fact that, hey, maybe the people running this site don't want to see any changes..well if that's the case please let me know so I can take my knowledge and experience and networks somewhere else where they might be more appreciated and utilized. Many of us who are pillars in our industry are very loyal to icmag, but how long do you expect to keep folks around if there is no "Kaizen"?
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
ICmag has gone through some hard times in recent years, the site owner was dragged down low by the powers that be, so obviously this made taking big leaps with the site impossible. many resources that were around in the old days have dwindled away, partly self inflicted, but not all self inflicted. even now much is in limbo, but i do hope that things will be modernized soon. for now we are trying to keep the place up and running so it remains a resource for those that need it, a resource that doesn't spy on it's users and steal their data, a resource that does no ip collection and generally is a lot safer to use then most places.

i do agree that we lost a lot of great contributors over the years to silly situations and even pure ego in some cases. but i hope you noticed that we are not so quick to ban nowadays. we do know that the site depends on the contributors and hope people will find their way back soon.

we were always a counter culture site, so now that cannabis is being normalized, we have to think more about keeping our members as they have a lot of options nowadays. personally i will never join facebook, etc. the price to my privacy is way too high in those places. a few extra clicks to download a pic or so is well worth it for me. but yes, it would be cool to upgrade the site. one of the problems is saving all the pics from the old galleries.

+++++this post is my personal take on things+++++
 

Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
Since you have mentioned it...

I was told last month that Skip was scheduling an upgrade to this Xen software in January sometime, first he had to do quite a bit of testing to make sure everything would fit right. Hopefully it all works out just fine, and we have a better site soon into the new year.
 

theJointedOne

Well-known member
Veteran
Since you have mentioned it...

I was told last month that Skip was scheduling an upgrade to this Xen software in January sometime, first he had to do quite a bit of testing to make sure everything would fit right. Hopefully it all works out just fine, and we have a better site soon into the new year.

That would be awesome. It is great software and very user friendly.
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
Premium user
420club
no matter what, it's still the best source of info in one place anywhere on the internet!:tiphat:

agreed!
IC mag has the best community of users hands down
/and thanks for all the hard work you guys put in behind the scenes
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Phew.

For a second Don't Care was winning.


It would be a welcome change. The ability to tag a users account during conversation allows for better discussion, rather than messaging or random happenstance.

The allure of the dopamine kicks of social media has drawn from all forums. Others bury deeper in private venues. The instant response format appeals to the many who would rather "shout out to fam" for dubious, often damaging, advice rather than put in work finding the best solution from a range of resources. Fickle twit syndrome?
 

Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
As with any upgrade, there is always a measure of uncertainty of what to expect.

Perhaps TJO can tell us how much better this Xen software can/will be over what the site currently runs. All I have heard is that it will make the site more user friendly.

Maybe someone else is familiar with this software and can chip in about it?
 

billy_big_bud!

Proud Cannadian Cannabist
Veteran
as long as we are all together as a family, i dont care about the minor details. i love you guys. no homo.
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
it says it's hooked to facebook in that link? i hope thats just an option.

what are the security implications of this change? is that software open source?

gonna watch the rest of that video now
 

Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
it says it's hooked to facebook in that link? i hope thats just an option.

what are the security implications of this change? is that software open source?

gonna watch the rest of that video now

You'd best ask Skip any technical questions. I don't feel qualified to answer.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
ICMag has the fewest ads of any of the websites I visit regularly.

That business & graphic design decision is a strength.

On the internet, it is common for people to be obsessed with or attracted to new technology.

I'll take old technology, properly done, over new technology - any day.


I would say the main reasons to change software are -
* web security
* Moderator hassle reduction.
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
ICMag Donor
Veteran
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The internet has changed, why not change with it? Linked to social media is an obvious negative, but not tied to Xenforo as I understand..
 

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
I don't know gang..... I have been running forums since the BBS days of 1200 baud modems and it doesn't get much better than VBulletin software.

It is secure and well written. It is well supported. There are a zillion add-ons for it that can customize it to just about anything you want.

There are other software packages out there. And some are better than others. But, it's tough to beat vBull.

The problem with this forum is that there's no one doing it. I can only imagine how long it's been since the proper security patches and all that have been installed and updated.

It is an incredible task to maintain a forum like ICMag. An every day affair. And, it costs money. Updates are not free. And, you better know what the fuck you're doing or the forum will be down more than it's up. LOL And, the more add-ons you have, the tougher updates and patches become.

So, don't be too hard on the admin(s). And, it appears there was some shakeups here in the past (I'm new around here) so, all things considered, the forum seems to be, at least, maintained properly. Needs a few things fixed. LOL

Plus, any software you change to..... somebody is going to hate it. LOL You can't please everyone. Sometimes it's best to leave well enough alone.

I'll say one thing. I get the most technical info here. More than anyplace else. In fact, this is the ONLY place I have found intelligent technical discussions pertaining to cannabis. All

Either way it goes, good luck.
 
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