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dubi

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thankyou!

i have 4 tikal feminised from late 2014 i think (f5 ?);

here is type 1 (i got 2x)

and then type 2 (1x) (burned floral cluster at top - Oops)

(darker, stouter, more trichome coverage and terpene strength vs #1) (is this the "strawb / peach ?" (thankyou for the information)

i also got 1x that didn't like being topped much with a-symmetrical branching.

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please could you elaborate on the differences on effect ?; is the strawberry peach more disorientating and body loaded etc ?.

- or could you please tell me which phenotype you prefer and why ?.

if that is OK ? (i have been struggling for finding tikal smoke reports!!) (...and have no patience)

thankyou very much for any help.

Hi Collembola,

Patience is one of the best virtues of a grower :)

I can not remember all the details of the latest Tikal fem reproduction, i will ask Komanche for more details about the stock you are growing, he did the job.

Each different Tikal expression has great qualities, i like the taller guatemala/haze expressions from the fem lines (F3) that had a dark incensey aroma and a very high quality uplifting central american sativa effect.

The strawberry phenos are usually more tamed in size/height, with a great sweet strawberry aroma in flowering stage, in a much more refined way than the pure strawberry guatemalas. This pheno also has a very clean positive effect that is not so deep or introspective like the more hazy ones. The strawberry phenos are quite common, and have been easily found between F2-F5 generations.

The peach pheno grows quite tamed structurally, usually quite compact robust with medium size, it's a more modern pheno (F4-F5) with evident aromas of matured peach and other tropical fruits in flowering, i like a lot the combination of peach and incensey aromas that some plants of this pheno have in the smoke, the effect is usually the most sativa introspective of all of them.

Your last plant looks quite a bit like the more recessive kush phenos we found in F2-F3 generation and that komanche used in some Tikal lines to bring down the flowering time of the taller and slower ones.

Best wishes for the rest of the flowering!
 

Neiko

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Beautiful sativa Tikal female, Neiko :)

Does it smell dark, incensey and hashy ?

Judging only by the photos, it reminds me of the best lines of Tikal fem 2008.

9 weeks is really fast for this pheno, usually these more sativa expressions take up to 11 weeks. Thanks for sharing it!

I can't really tell on the smells. There is a plant that is just about done and it over powers the Tikal. Overall she doesn't have much smell yet.

I don't think she'll be done in 11 weeks either, she just keeps throwing out pistols. I'm thinking she could go another month easily.

I got this plant as a freebie in December 2014 I believe and it was a regular seed. I have since ordered more that are in the mail. Should I expect to see this phenotype again or is it not as common?

Thanks for taking the time to comment on her.
 
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Collembola

thankyou for the information!!!.

i think then probably it is strawberry pheno.

i topped them all and also over-N, so think also effected expression.

please no need to ask people, although thankyou for the gesture.

i will try to work on patience! (..- although hope that doesn't take too long).

hehe.
 
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Collembola

hello,

sorry about before, typing before thinking (confused).

here is the **recessive kush expression, showing colourful calyx's, i think about 8 weeks :





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is the "haze pheno" also a recessive expression (- can you have more then one possible recessive expression ?)

or is it guatamela dominant ? haze co-dominant and kush recessive ? or something ?

as in

GG,Gg,gg > guatemala, haze (co or incomplete ?), kush ?.

or

GG, Gg > guatemal, gg > haze OR kush ?.

thanks for any help!

(hope above somewhat coherant)


 

dubi

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OK gang here she is, sorry for the pink in the last couple, the lights started coming on before I was done. She is ending week 9 tomorrow from flip to 12/12.

Thanks for looking.

Hi Neiko,

At this time your Tikal must be already finishing or already harvested.

I would recommend you to give them lesser Nitrogen next time as she is a bit overfeed (leaf curl) in your last pics. Please, make sure to clean the plant correctly before harvest to get healthier flowers of better quality. Kind regards!
 

dubi

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Hi Collembola,

By the look of the pics and by your reference of the flowering time it's without any doubt a more kush dominant Tikal from last Tikal fem release, it was a very small batch produced a few years ago using intermediate and more indica influenced Tikal generations. She is looking great and not far from harvest :)
 

Neiko

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Hi Neiko,

At this time your Tikal must be already finishing or already harvested.

I would recommend you to give them lesser Nitrogen next time as she is a bit overfeed (leaf curl) in your last pics. Please, make sure to clean the plant correctly before harvest to get healthier flowers of better quality. Kind regards!

Thanks for the reply, no she is still going. It is in week 14 and still throwing out pistols. I believe the leaf curl on the sugar leaves is from excessive light. Most of the curling is at the top of the colas not through out the plant. The plant is very healthy and I have reduced the light and the curling has stopped. The flowers look very healthy but what do you mean to clean them properly before harvest?
 

@ya

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hello,

sorry about before, typing before thinking (confused).

here is the **recessive kush expression, showing colourful calyx's, i think about 8 weeks :

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is the "haze pheno" also a recessive expression (- can you have more then one possible recessive expression ?)

or is it guatamela dominant ? haze co-dominant and kush recessive ? or something ?

as in

GG,Gg,gg > guatemala, haze (co or incomplete ?), kush ?.

or

GG, Gg > guatemal, gg > haze OR kush ?.

thanks for any help!

(hope above somewhat coherant)



Wow that recessive kush, will have a awesome bag appeal, if I get that phenol I'm sure it will do well here in Cali MMJ world, a kush looking pheno with sativa effects, strawberry/mango terpens, they will love it.
 
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scai

Thanks for the reply, no she is still going. It is in week 14 and still throwing out pistols.

Damn! Scary plant ;)
My Tikals seem to be incensy ones. Tikal Central America that is.
Nice, clean and strong smell,
 

dubi

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Thanks for the reply, no she is still going. It is in week 14 and still throwing out pistols. I believe the leaf curl on the sugar leaves is from excessive light. Most of the curling is at the top of the colas not through out the plant. The plant is very healthy and I have reduced the light and the curling has stopped. The flowers look very healthy but what do you mean to clean them properly before harvest?

Hi Neiko,

Leaf curling in indoor sativas is usually due excessive Nitrogen or lack of light intensity.

If your female has been heavily feeded during its flowering it's important to clean her properly with plain water with low EC (around 0.2) for the last 10-14 days.
It will help to clean the excess of nutrients, the flowers will be healthier and tastier.

Please, feel free to share your comments about Tikal after a bit of drying and curing.
 

Genghis Kush

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Im over on Maui at my friends house.

He's growing two of the freebee Tikals from this year.

They look amazing ! absolutely thriving in the Hawaii sun and soil.

they are least 8 feet tall and are just starting to show flower.

large 11 blade leaves.

I can say for sure that the Tikal, loves Maui


indoor pics do this plant, no justice.
she's a beast outdoor - very branchy

its going to be a good thankgiving/ Christmas, this year!!!

Aloha
 
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dubi

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Hi Genghis Kush,

I would love to see those pictures of your Tikals enjoying in Maui :)

Best regards
 

ObsidianMirror

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The right bottom corner are congo's so ignore them, all the others are Tikal, they're starting their 7th week, overfed so I'll have to cut back a bit on nutes next time I grow them but I'm quite happy with the results as it's my 3rd time growing weed :)


Same as the picture above, ignore the buds in the right bottom corner.


And this is the 2nd Tikal (ignore the 2 buds in the first picture they're Congo - btw are the top dried leaves signs of overfeeding too?), not really proud of her in the sense I overfed her even more then the others. But still! For the pheno it is, and hence the low amount of light she's been getting compared to her much taller sister, the buds look pretty good and compact! The smell is outrageous too, strong strawberry!

The space has no exhaust fans, just one tower fan and a 12" inch fan for the canopy but they're handling the temps well as far as I can see (might be wrong though ^^), grown under a 400 watt HPS and a 250 MH (should I switch it to a HPS? heard both lights provides better spectrum and I wanted to try it this run).
Anyways, I'll tune you guys in for the harvest and do a smoke report in due time :dance013:
 

dubi

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Welcome ObsidianMirror :)

Your Tikals look great in their 7th week of flowering!

I see some curling in the leaf serrations and burned leaf tips, which is most probably due by overfeeding.

Try to lower down a bit the feeding and consider to make some cleanings with plain water to avoid salt accumulation in the plant and the pot.

Use only plain water in the last 2 weeks of flowering to get that lovely strawberry bubblegum aroma in its fullest and more natural way.

It's always a pleasure to see more people growing this underratted great central american sativa line.
 

ObsidianMirror

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Thanks alot for your confirmation on the problem and your advice, it's true I missed the part of salt build up in soil :badday: first time trying nutes seriously, gotta be careful I guess hehe.
I think I won't be able to thank you enough for these great strains once I've smoked them. And I must admit I can't stop looking at them throughout the day haha, they're soothing haha.
Would you think the one on the third picture end at week 10? Maybe I could start using plain water for it right now, since more nutes is gonna worsen the salt build up?
 

dubi

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Hi ObsidianMirror,

We are here to help :) Thanks to you for posting.

Pictures are not very clear but i think they are still reflowering, producing new waves of fresh pistils, so they still have the potential to produce bigger flowers.

I recommend you to make first a good cleaning with plain water (with correct PH and low EC around 0.3) and then continue the feeding for a few days more, but softer.

When the last reflowering is starting to mature then water them with plain water until harvest time.
Before harvest let the soil dries correctly.
 

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