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Tiger's Den 3 - TRC Sweet 13 and PlanB Brain Warp
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Looks like some good things to come. I tried revegging once and no luck. Looks like ya got it down NT. Love the SWT
Gnats in the soil of the SWT13.
The neem watering doesn't appear to have phased them. Not doing any damage I can see, and no visible larvae. So, the neem probably tagged the larvae, but missed the adults.
Regardless, I'm gonna repot and toss the soil. Also going to go ahead and take the clones tonight. That way if the big girl goes catastrophic, I'll still have the genes.
I've learned my lesson :wink:
Also gonna grab some NoPest strips, just to complete the scorched earth campaign
I donated to the WWF, so no grief on the chem pesticides.
I deal with uninvited guests in my house harshly, whether they come on paws, wings, or feet. 
The neem watering doesn't appear to have phased them. Not doing any damage I can see, and no visible larvae. So, the neem probably tagged the larvae, but missed the adults.
Regardless, I'm gonna repot and toss the soil. Also going to go ahead and take the clones tonight. That way if the big girl goes catastrophic, I'll still have the genes.
I've learned my lesson :wink:
Also gonna grab some NoPest strips, just to complete the scorched earth campaign
I donated to the WWF, so no grief on the chem pesticides.
I deal with uninvited guests in my house harshly, whether they come on paws, wings, or feet.
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Hi Nite Tiger,
you don't need to go with a no pest strip just because of a few gnats. you have two much less harmful options to use. one is to let the medium dry out till the plant starts to droop a little bit. the gnat larva can not survive in dry medium, while the plants can easily survive a short drought. this is what i do with vegging mother plants. for the flowering plants i use a natural product based on bacteria thurengis israelis (sp?) apply it to your water and it also breaks the cycle by killing the larva. those gnats will do no real harm in an earth grow, so using a no pest strip seems a bit over kill. but if you must at least only hang it in there for a few days then wrap and seal it up again till you need it.
just my 2 cents, it is of course your call.
peace
you don't need to go with a no pest strip just because of a few gnats. you have two much less harmful options to use. one is to let the medium dry out till the plant starts to droop a little bit. the gnat larva can not survive in dry medium, while the plants can easily survive a short drought. this is what i do with vegging mother plants. for the flowering plants i use a natural product based on bacteria thurengis israelis (sp?) apply it to your water and it also breaks the cycle by killing the larva. those gnats will do no real harm in an earth grow, so using a no pest strip seems a bit over kill. but if you must at least only hang it in there for a few days then wrap and seal it up again till you need it.
just my 2 cents, it is of course your call.
peace
Gaius- Thanks for the advice! I'll let the pot dry out real well and watch 'em drop Morbid as it may be, I really enjoy going into my growroom and seeing dead bugs. Means they never made it to the plant, and that my protective measures worked. Good feelings
Baker- Seedlings are doing good, only four have popped tho. I'll get ya some pics tonight.
Morbid as it may be, I really enjoy going into my growroom and seeing dead bugs. Means they never made it to the plant, and that my protective measures worked. Good feelings Baker- Seedlings are doing good, only four have popped tho. I'll get ya some pics tonight.
Teh_Baker
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you know i have to say that i have never had a problem with bugs. however i currently am having to deal with very little mold on top of my soil. i,ve never had this problem b4 and i dont know how to remedy it. my soil is in dixie cups just like your seedlings and i have little fuzzies on about 10% of the soil in about 30% of the cups. any ideas?
Yeah, get 'em transplanted. Had that happen on some clones and it killed them off in short order. Some types aren't harmful to the plant, but I'd rather not try to find out and get rid of any mold/fungus (cept psilocybin ) that comes near my babies :smile:
) that comes near my babies :smile:
Transplant them into new soil. Assuming they're big enough to survive. If we're talking about week old seedlings, I'd probably just cross my fingers. More mature seedlings, I'd transplant them in a heartbeat.
But that's just me. May wanna put a thread with pics over in the Cannabis Infirmary, you'l get much more experienced advice.
But that's just me. May wanna put a thread with pics over in the Cannabis Infirmary, you'l get much more experienced advice.
Teh_Baker
Active member
i dont really have a camera, and im wondering if the fungus is from the soil that i used. the soil is brand new but after i opened it and used it once, i left it outside. im sure my cab is clean and i dunno where it might have come from. im not too worried about the seedlings. im just growing some other things(that i wont talk about as i heard from gypsy they might be just a little more illegal than pot) waiting for my multi tester in the mail. once i get my tester outdoor they go and the grow is on.
darrinjefferson
Active member
wow nitetiger.....i just read the thread..
looks awesome. this is gonna be fun to watch.
late
looks awesome. this is gonna be fun to watch.
late
Quick Update:
I've finally conceded defeat in an ongoing battle with low temps in the veg room. I just can't get them up without adding another space heater, and the circuit down there that I'm using just can't handle another space heater on top of the 1kw and the space heater in the flower room.
So, the clones made the move into the flower room last night, and the seedlings joined them tonight. Before you guys jump on me about putting clones and seedlings under 1kw HPS, lemme finish :smile:
The light is about 5 ft high right now, keeping some distance for the mother as she returns to HPS from Fluoro land. The clones and seedlings are on the floor, so the first thing we have to lower the intensity is distance.
The clones are in a small white bus tray covered with a clear textured Tupperware as a humidity dome, which also works to lower intensity. On top of this, I added a folded white garbage bag. Not linke inside the garbage bag, where it would be a very thin white sheet, but just partially unfolded, not opened at all. This cuts the light underneath dramatically, without completely blocking it. Also helps for humidity (humidity is hovering right at 30 in the flower room right now) retention underneath.
The seedlings received the same treatment, sans the humidity dome. Only four have sprouted still, but I'm hoping that just speaks to the low temps in the veg pod. We'll see.
With the temporary arrangements in place, I went out and picked up a 30 amp breaker to add another circuit to the room. This will be the permanent solution and give room for the new lights that are coming. We'll walk through the adding of the new circuit both here and in the build out thread.
As far as the step down I mentioned earlier in the thread, that idea has been stricken. We're going ahead as planned in the beginning, with just a few modifications. Instead of adding at new 1kw HPS @ $100, I'm going to flip flop the ballast I have now @ $30.
This will allow me to add a 1kw MH in the veg pod instead of the 400w. I'm not completely sold on this yet, but I'm kicking the idea around from another thread of doing an experiment to compare the benefits of MH, HPS, and Mixed flowering. If I decide to do this, I'll need to have equal wattage between the MH and the HPS to have a true test.
Construction of the flip-flop and ballast will be covered both here and in the build out as well.
The deciding factor in my decision not to downgrade was a conversation with one of the few people who know I grow. He said "Shit man, too much pot, that's like a fucking oxymoron. If you're dead set against selling it, become, I dunno, the Pot Fairy. You get too much weight, just freaking go to concerts and hand out zips. Do drive by Pot Shots at the local colleges and shit. Just pull up to the student center or something and just fling a pound at 'em."
I like his thinking
I've finally conceded defeat in an ongoing battle with low temps in the veg room. I just can't get them up without adding another space heater, and the circuit down there that I'm using just can't handle another space heater on top of the 1kw and the space heater in the flower room.
So, the clones made the move into the flower room last night, and the seedlings joined them tonight. Before you guys jump on me about putting clones and seedlings under 1kw HPS, lemme finish :smile:
The light is about 5 ft high right now, keeping some distance for the mother as she returns to HPS from Fluoro land. The clones and seedlings are on the floor, so the first thing we have to lower the intensity is distance.
The clones are in a small white bus tray covered with a clear textured Tupperware as a humidity dome, which also works to lower intensity. On top of this, I added a folded white garbage bag. Not linke inside the garbage bag, where it would be a very thin white sheet, but just partially unfolded, not opened at all. This cuts the light underneath dramatically, without completely blocking it. Also helps for humidity (humidity is hovering right at 30 in the flower room right now) retention underneath.
The seedlings received the same treatment, sans the humidity dome. Only four have sprouted still, but I'm hoping that just speaks to the low temps in the veg pod. We'll see.
With the temporary arrangements in place, I went out and picked up a 30 amp breaker to add another circuit to the room. This will be the permanent solution and give room for the new lights that are coming. We'll walk through the adding of the new circuit both here and in the build out thread.
As far as the step down I mentioned earlier in the thread, that idea has been stricken. We're going ahead as planned in the beginning, with just a few modifications. Instead of adding at new 1kw HPS @ $100, I'm going to flip flop the ballast I have now @ $30.
This will allow me to add a 1kw MH in the veg pod instead of the 400w. I'm not completely sold on this yet, but I'm kicking the idea around from another thread of doing an experiment to compare the benefits of MH, HPS, and Mixed flowering. If I decide to do this, I'll need to have equal wattage between the MH and the HPS to have a true test.
Construction of the flip-flop and ballast will be covered both here and in the build out as well.
The deciding factor in my decision not to downgrade was a conversation with one of the few people who know I grow. He said "Shit man, too much pot, that's like a fucking oxymoron. If you're dead set against selling it, become, I dunno, the Pot Fairy. You get too much weight, just freaking go to concerts and hand out zips. Do drive by Pot Shots at the local colleges and shit. Just pull up to the student center or something and just fling a pound at 'em."
I like his thinking
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darrinjefferson
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in oregon......i know that "pop flinging" would def go over huge....i would hope it would anywhere.
sounds like a plan
sounds like a plan
I'm sorry to put a downer on things, but pot flinging could get you busted faster then you can say harvest. i know it would be a great thing to do and 90 % of the people that see it will not mind one bit. but there is always that minority who will go straight to the law.
so as sad as it is, if you don't have trustworthy mates to give it to, then you are better off making hash with the buds you don't need. even supplying a sick friend can back fire terribly in the us, as the police will exert so much pressure to find out where it came from. including threatening the separation of the family and confiscation of all property. then there are finger prints and dna that can also bring them to your door if they find some of your cannabis. think very carefully who you give it to. a dispensary might be ok if you can drop it in their mail box anonymously.
just some things to consider, in the us you are risking so much that you need to be extra careful.
so as sad as it is, if you don't have trustworthy mates to give it to, then you are better off making hash with the buds you don't need. even supplying a sick friend can back fire terribly in the us, as the police will exert so much pressure to find out where it came from. including threatening the separation of the family and confiscation of all property. then there are finger prints and dna that can also bring them to your door if they find some of your cannabis. think very carefully who you give it to. a dispensary might be ok if you can drop it in their mail box anonymously.
just some things to consider, in the us you are risking so much that you need to be extra careful.
Oh yeah Gaius, I know what ya mean. I'm not really considering driving down the street flinging out pot
It'd be just my luck some campus cop would see that and stop me for a littering ticket
His point was that I can find something to do with it. He made the point as well that I could have enough edibles to choke a horse.
I just thought the "Pot Fairy" line he used was much more entertaining
No worries mate, I'm not gonna be heaving pounds of pot out the window :wink:
It'd be just my luck some campus cop would see that and stop me for a littering ticket
His point was that I can find something to do with it. He made the point as well that I could have enough edibles to choke a horse.
I just thought the "Pot Fairy" line he used was much more entertaining
No worries mate, I'm not gonna be heaving pounds of pot out the window :wink:
glad to hear it Nite Tiger.
sorry i should have known you were not serious about the pot fairy, lol.
the thing is it would be great if one could do it.
but your mate is right, you can always find some thing to do with it lol.
edited to add: you could also allow yourself to only grow for say 2 harvests and then take a break, smoking the reserves, till you need more? not growing full time is nice, as it allows you to forget about it for a while, as long as you don't have to buy buds to toke.
sorry i should have known you were not serious about the pot fairy, lol.
the thing is it would be great if one could do it.
but your mate is right, you can always find some thing to do with it lol.
edited to add: you could also allow yourself to only grow for say 2 harvests and then take a break, smoking the reserves, till you need more? not growing full time is nice, as it allows you to forget about it for a while, as long as you don't have to buy buds to toke.
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NiteTiger said:Heh, yeah, how cool would it be to be dry and just have some random guy hand you an ounce of primo bud and walk away?
I swear officer, the pot fairy gave it to me!
yeah man, that would be pretty awesome. when i think back to the buying smoke days, i would have loved the pot fairy
gaiusmarius said:
The fact that I could take a break from growing and still have plenty of smoke was definitely a consideration.
My main concern with too much supply building up was that I'm addicted growing
I dunno if I could stop LOL Seeing those girls grow and fill out just gives me the warm fuzzies :smile: Plus, I'm one of those guys that figures "Hmmm, if I got X amount this time, wonder how much I'll get if I try this..."And the new strains, cuts from members, the chance of finding that next super-pheno...
Yeah, I'm gonna have a backlog
