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Tiger's Den 3 - TRC Sweet 13 and PlanB Brain Warp

NiteTiger

Tiger, Tiger, burning bright...
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Welcome to the grow thread folks!

For those interested, the build out thread is here.

A quick recap, for those just tuning in, we've got two 4x4 pods next to each other. 1 kw light in one pod, with the second pod being used currently as a nursery with a 4 foot fluro fixture. When the tax return comes in (already filed), we'll be adding an additional 1kw light and a 400w MH for vegging. I'm not sure in what configuration I'll be adding them, and we may add more. I have the materials and space two add two more pods, so what I may very well do is have 3 1kw flowering pods, and a 400w veg. Like I said, not quite decided yet, but at the minimum, by the end of the month we'll have 2000w flowering and 400w veg.

Now, on to the line up.

The first to see flower will be my karmic gift - Sweet13. These are the genes from my last grow, which were lost due to my forced move. However, at harvest, I let one of my trimmers take the remains of the best plant to try to reveg. Well, he called last night saying he couldn't flower it, did I have room? :woohoo:

The lineage is Sweettooth #3 and TRC's Double Indica, thought to be a G-13, hence the 13 in the name. However, when the lineage couldn't be completely confirmed, it was just called Double Indica. Either way, I'm extremely impressed with these genes, and can't wait to give them a try under better conditions. I think we'll all be impressed :D

Number two is a pack of PlanB's Brain Warp, that I received before TRC and PlanB parted ways. No lineage was provided, but are a result of my pestering Vegas to introduce a Sativa line. He promised me some "tiger killing" sativas. These are supposed to be highly sativa dominant hybrids that should finish in about 8 weeks. We'll find out together!

Now, on with the pics!

Into the cups we go! Notice my high tech seed handling device makes another appearance :D I still haven't found a better way to drop popped seeds.


Under the flouro's they go!


And here's my girl!


The new supply shelf, all ready to go! It rocks to be able to have all your supplies and running water in the grow area.


Notice the red giant syringe? I found that little gem at Wally World for $3, and it rocks for anyone using liquid nutes or additives. It's a Flavor injector with an extremely long wide bore needle, and incremental mL markings up to 30mL. No more messes and conversions!

The seedlings were watered in with a neem solution, as was the Swt13 lady. The Swt13 girl also received a thorough spraying with neem as well. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

So, we're off and running! As soon as I'm sure the Swt13 girl is clean and healthy, we'll take some clones off of her and get 'em into flower. Or, we may just take one clone and as soon as she has roots, flower out the mom, as she's a bit bigger than I'm looking for in a mom.

Until next time, :wave:
 
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Never ehard of the strains, sounds nice man.

These always start out slow but it will pick up. Good Luck NiteTiger
 

gaiusmarius

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And they are off ladies and gents...lol. great to see you got things started again. i look forward to following along and watching those pods fill with buds.

peace out
gm
 
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Yea a mishap caused me to loose my Sweet 13 seeds. I loved the Texas Hammer and still have the Klingon Adventure and BlueSugarberry beans.
 

Teh_Baker

Active member
just stopped by to let you know that ill be watching you in here, and ill be sure to keep up on the build just in case you change something.
 

NiteTiger

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Lemme get your opinions on something guys. I'm only planning on running 3-6 plants in flower at a time, and was thinking I'd run a perpetual using both pods, harvesting every 30 days. However, that concerns me with the potential of building up more bud than I could possibly need.

I'm thinking of instead of using the second pod as a second flowering room, using it as a veg pod and putting a 1kw MH in there. That'd give me the space and ability to veg larger plants than the 400w MH veg cab I had in mind.

I've also considered adding a MH alongside the HPS in the flower pod, as I've heard that that provides some added benefits.

Thoughts?
 

The Dopest

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nice yo see you back in action!! cant wait to see tose beans grown out, sounds like some nice genetics! the seringe works excellent, i picked up a couple medicine droppers from the health and beauty aid dept in walmart too. they are grea for smaller increments. **passin to the left** :lurk:
 
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def use HM as much as possibe esp if your HPS its low wattage anyway.

looks thru a horticulture mag or one that sells to nurseries big ass greenhouses

they sell MH 20 at a time 400watts. they only offer 150watt hps.

you could really be letting a keeper get thru your hands with hps
 
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Here is what another member does that I think is cool. He has a flower room like you. He also has a separate dark room. This way he can run his flower room 24 hours a day. The only thing is once a day has to switch the plants from one room to another.

Mo,
 
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Hey NT . 400 MH should be plenty for a veg space if your only growing 3-6 plants, untill they re ready to flower under 1000w . what height are you planing before flowering ?

original TRC SWT 13 was Ray Davis x13 Sativa x Sweet Tooth#2 or #3.
the newer TRC Swt 13(2005) we ve grown are original Swt13 x Double Indica. (see if i can find out for sure). fine , potent , stinky herb :D
all the best with the grow
peace
 

NiteTiger

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Hey Hey guys, glad to see you all coming by and offering your thoughts!

TheDopest- Glad to see you made it back for this round! I'm big WalMart fan in regards to cheap items that can be used for growing. You can do an entire grow setup from there. If only they offered Hydro Nutes :D

RAGGA MON- Thanks for stopping by!

NeptHaze- Oh, my HPS isn't low wattage, it's a 1kw HPS :D But it sounds like you think an MH with the HPS would be a good idea, right?

Mr. Mo- Wow, sounds like an awesome idea. Dunno if I could pull it off though. The thought of moving 6-12 5 gallon buckets full of water and weed back and forth makes my back twinge :D

stepinrazor- Long time no see bro! Glad you found my little spot here. Thanks for the detailed info on the Swt13 lineage. I'm really not sure about the height I'll be flowering them out at. I've never done a full grow in hydro before, so I'm not sure what to expect as far as growth in flower. From the info I'm getting, seems about a weeks worth of veg is what I'll start out with.

To all- I really appreciate the karma messages and PMs regarding expected yield. But I will say that it's making me seriously consider downsizing the grow. In fact, I've pretty much ruled out adding the second 1kw for flowering.

The plan now is to purchase a 400w MH for veg, and a 400 or 600w HPS. If even the lowest yield estimates I've been getting are correct, I'll down grade the grow to a 4-600w cab. I just don't have any use for the yields you guys are giving me.

Yes, yes, I know, yield estimates are for the most part useless. Hence the 'wait and see' approach.

And yes, I also know it's almost a sin to downgrade around here. :D
 

gaiusmarius

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Hey Nite Tiger,

haha isn't it jumping the gun a bit to talk of yield at this point? also not to forget that expected yield, is not always what you really end up with. like you saw last time.

at lest this way you have a nice vegging space to start a collection of nice mothers if you wanted to. also allows you to do a perpetual. pre veg the plants in the veg box and have them flower in the flowering pod. then you never have too much yield and trimming to do at once?

:wave:
 

Teh_Baker

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If you were to ask me personally NT, I think that I would just keep the two pods for now, and not try doing a perpetual for your first hydro run. You were also saying something about having the room for 2 more pods?? Well, if you dont want a whole heap of ganja you could certainly send some this way lol.

On the lights though, I would think that if you were to just keep the MH for veg, you'd be doing pretty good if you had say 12 babies, and you vegged them all for 2 weeks, they would get pretty good sized. Then you could either weed them out and take the best, or possibly run 2 flowering pods on alternating cycles. Didnt you have 2 1kw lights along with your 400mh? I think that I would run 1 veg pod and 2 flowering chambers. And if you have too much weed on your hands, then donate some to your local dispensary.

my 2 cents

Edit: And one other thing, I just wanted to know, what are you using for medium on your seedlings?
 
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NiteTiger

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I agree 100% gaius.

NiteTiger said:
Yes, yes, I know, yield estimates are for the most part useless. Hence the 'wait and see' approach.

The 400w MH is still coming for veg. So the only thing that's changed as of right now is that I won't be bringing in another 1kw. Instead, I'll be bringing in another 400 or 600w HPS. This will give me the option to go into a cab if I want to later, or add to the flower room, or do a Big grow/Small grow perpetual.
 

NiteTiger

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Baker - I am indeed keeping the two pods for now. Just looking to the future, since this is the only time I'll be able to spend some money on grow equipment. I'd hate to get to the point three months from now where I do need to downsize, but don't have the money.

The plan was never to dive straight into a perpetual on the first hydro grow. That's just inviting Murphy to come visit :D I do indeed have materials and the room for two more pods. Hell, as far as space goes, I've got the room for about 10 more pods :D

Currently, I have one 1kw HPS (well, technically I have 3, but two need repairs) and Flouros for veg (which is why the one thing unchanging on my list is the 400w MH). My original idea was to bring in another 1kw, and have two 1kw flowering pods and a 400w veg area, as you said.

I'm not in a med-friendly state, so I have no local dispensary to donate any excess to. All I'm growing for is lil' ole me, which is why I'm considering downgrading. The thought occurred to me to find an MMJ supportive doc, and supply him with the excess for his patients. Sort of an Underground Railroad of MMJ :D But, that's just a fleeting thought, not a serious one - the potential for exposure is just too great.

Oh, and the seedlings are starting off in soil.
 
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NiteTiger

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Updates!

Here's our Revegged SWT13. She's looking nice and healthy, with plenty of potential clones. I think we'll grab 5, put one back for a new mom, then flower out the other four with this girl. I'll grab the clones tomorrow.
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And we've got some Brain Warp babies making an appearance!
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hehe NJ there Nite!, great recovery for that lady!

all the best for this one, i too wouldnt downgrade .just ride this one out, one flowering cycle at a time eh lol. see what ya get then make a decision!
bigger and better is the only answer you will get from me hahah.

whatever thge decision, stay safe :D
good luck mate
 
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