Faith-Hope-Love, how could you possibly know what your lungs look like, and assume that an hour of excercise "virtually makes your lungs resin free"? Or that coughing up black shit means your lungs are healthy and you're just cleaning them. You're right not all smoke is created equal but smoke is still smoke and you're lungs are not designed to inhale it. Thats why it irritates your lungs and makes you cough. If you think you can ride a bike and your lungs are like brand new again keep filling up with smoke i guess. But im not living in denial.
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THIS IS WHAT A BONG LEAVES IN YOUR LUNGS!!!!
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dramamine
I'd like to express my disbelief that the photo in the first post is actually from one bong hit, much less a half-hit, since it 'clogged the paper towel'. Try as I might I can't get that much tar from smoking even a whole bowl.
Also, the thread title is misleading, since we know that most of the tar would be exhaled anyway. Exaggeration makes the thread come off like a Truth campaign ad, even though there are very good points being made.
Also, the thread title is misleading, since we know that most of the tar would be exhaled anyway. Exaggeration makes the thread come off like a Truth campaign ad, even though there are very good points being made.
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juicepuddle
Yup especially since OP wont answer any questions about how he did this, maybe he inhaled it and exhaled it through the towel? No way to know, dont care, dumb thread.
I can clog up a paper towel with one good hit EASY, I'd take pix if I didnt break the bottom half of my purdy 11 arm perc new-ish bong
however it gets clogged to the point of you not being able to pull anymore, you'd sit there goin blue tryin to chief it out.I know not 100% of it stays, but some does, which the cilia clean out just like all the other junk we breathe in every day.
Slangheat
Member
Don't disagree with you... just want to say that I can remember when my mom quit smoking cigarettes around age 50 (30+ years smoking), about 8 months afterwards she was able to take bong hits at least 2-3x bigger than her normal hits. Chronic bronchitis and asthma and she was able to kick the smokes but not the bong... and her lungs did definitely improve!
I guess my point is, most of us should already know that bongs aren't ideal... but living in the city can fuck your lungs as well... and this life is shitty sometimes and a bong hit can fix it like nothing else... so... keep rippin em
that's just nasty bro but as long as it keeps
leaving this in my mind I'm good to go.......
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bock, bock
You would think that by how much some people smoke, that theyre lung sacks would be absolutely full to the brim with black gunk, and no place at all for actual lung tissue?
Welp, you can see the round imprint of the bong and the tar is in the shape that his mouth would be when hitting it. Smoking anything is in no way, shape or form good for you. Is anyone gonna really argue this? Ingesting cannabis helps people, no doubt, but there are better, less detrimental ways to dose.
I've been exhaling through paper towels for a long time. Somewhere on one of these growing forums I have a thread called "Yummy, Lung Butter!"
I don't know about the kind of buildup I saw on the first picture because that's an ass load of tar but I can definitely state that you can clog one up in a hit for sure. Depends on the paper towel though, Viva paper towels are the best I have found.
I would have to also point out, without reading the thread I assume it has been pointed out at some point, that the tar you see on the paper towel was obviously not "left there." It was exhaled. Not to say that some tar doesn't stick to our lung cells, but it's not quite the same as blowing in through a paper towel. Also, your lungs can clean themselves a little so just take it easy on them.
I hear that joints are a cleaner smoke than bongs. The problem that bongs solve is the hot smoke issue which will kill the cilia on the back of your throat which act like hairs and little filters to catch particles before they get into your lungs. Once the cilia is burned up it never comes back. So, although your respiratory system might get more overall exposure to tar from bong use it is still healthier than destroying all the cilia with hot smoke.
I don't know about the kind of buildup I saw on the first picture because that's an ass load of tar but I can definitely state that you can clog one up in a hit for sure. Depends on the paper towel though, Viva paper towels are the best I have found.
I would have to also point out, without reading the thread I assume it has been pointed out at some point, that the tar you see on the paper towel was obviously not "left there." It was exhaled. Not to say that some tar doesn't stick to our lung cells, but it's not quite the same as blowing in through a paper towel. Also, your lungs can clean themselves a little so just take it easy on them.
I hear that joints are a cleaner smoke than bongs. The problem that bongs solve is the hot smoke issue which will kill the cilia on the back of your throat which act like hairs and little filters to catch particles before they get into your lungs. Once the cilia is burned up it never comes back. So, although your respiratory system might get more overall exposure to tar from bong use it is still healthier than destroying all the cilia with hot smoke.
Then you have not had any really good resin filed bud and I can assure you that that is very possible . My bud for example will do just that.. lol..... I'm sure many great growers will atest to their resin being excessive. I have smoked bud where the resin was all over my teethand hands so yeah this is very possible bra lol peace out Headband707
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Faith-Hope-Love
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Recently had another pulmonary function test.... so I guess I didn't visually see them, but I do know I have amazingly healthy lungs.
Also about 8 years ago, I was living in Government Camp, Oregon and got in a nasty accident. Long story short, I got to see a picture of my HEALTHY (albeit punctured) lungs!
Also lazydog, where did I say cannabis smoke doesn't irritate lungs? All I said is that an active lifestyle drastically reduces the amount of resin stuck in your lungs. Hence "virtually resin free" comment.
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Truthman
Yes it does matter, in fact it significantly matters, that is my point. The resin from burned solid matter ARE NOT ARE EQUALS. You start smoking plastic and then come back and try and say it doesn't matter.
I am not saying that resin is GOOD for you, nor am I saying that it is healthy to not consistently clean out lungs. What I am saying is that is very possible to clean that resin out of your lungs with cannabis as opposed to other resin. I am also saying that the resin from cannabis simply coats the mucus layer like a film buildup. Once the mucus layer is coughed up (and spit out or swallowed) the resin from cannabis comes with it. Thus, I can do hot yoga, or ride a bike or whatever and have virtually resin free lungs in an hour.
Get it yet? Not all smoke is created equally!
p.s. no I am not saying it is beneficial resin.... LOL where the fuck did you read that in my post? I said it is not the harmful resin that some are making it out to be. Since when does not so harmful equal beneficial?
I think it's the exercise that is making your lungs able to clean out the resin not the fact that it's cannabis. If someone who isn't as active does the same thing their lungs might not make enough mucus and therefore more of the resin or condensed smoke will stick to their lungs and cause problems.
I remember when i used to smoke hookahs, my friend packed a bowl with some herb but put very little herb in it so it was mostly tobacco and glycerin and I was hitting it hard plus he kept putting a torch to it because he didn't have charcoal to keep it lit plus once going it would stay lit by itself. Anyway a day later I noticed when I inhaled it was hard to do and as days when on it got worse and scared the shit out of me. I thought my lungs were going to be fucked up forever and I may need a machine but I thought let me hit the gym and do some running just to make sure before I go to the doctor and make a big fuss about it and just like I hoped once I did a good run my lungs felt better until they got back to normal and every since then I learned how important lung health is. This showed me that it isn't just the type of smoke that determines the lungs healthiness, because the bowl was mostly tobacco, glycerin, and honey that was burn, but how healthy your lungs are and running increases the efficiency of them to be able to clean themselves out by increasing mucus production from increased bloodflow so the accumulated dirt can be released.
Faith-Hope-Love
Member
One of my other posts said basically the same thing my man. So we agree about the exercise.
I think I stated that you need to consistently work the lungs (cardio) to keep them from getting a buildup. I also said lazy people probably do suffer, but lazy people have tons of health problems that IMO are due to their inability to exercise and/or eat healthy, way more so than cannabis harmfully effects them.
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juicepuddle
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE YELLING ABOUT >:| *looks around furiously*
when did THC all of a sudden become a solid compound?
Krunch,
Most matter on this planet can be found in one of three states: solid, liquid, gas, (plasma). THC is a solid when it is found on the marijuana plant, when heated it transfers into the gaseous phase. THC has always been in the solid sate, to answer your question.
THC transfers from solid(on the bud), to gas(when you heat it), and back to solid(when it hits your bloodstream, after it cools).
Think magma.
Here's some phresh good news for you krunch,
http://weill.cornell.edu/news/releases/wcmc/wcmc_2011/10_28_11.shtml
Krunch,
Most matter on this planet can be found in one of three states: solid, liquid, gas, (plasma). THC is a solid when it is found on the marijuana plant, when heated it transfers into the gaseous phase. THC has always been in the solid sate, to answer your question.
THC transfers from solid(on the bud), to gas(when you heat it), and back to solid(when it hits your bloodstream, after it cools).
Think magma.
Here's some phresh good news for you krunch,
http://weill.cornell.edu/news/releases/wcmc/wcmc_2011/10_28_11.shtml
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how bout taking a regular bong rip, unfiltered...then blowing your hit back through a clean paper towel to see how much is blown back out. Just cuz all that resin is entering your lungs, doesn't mean their filtering it all.
very interesting stuff mr. krunch.
very interesting stuff mr. krunch.
