Also, are you guys/gals flushing your grow medium after you spray your plants? Also, I used beneficial bacteria, does eagle 20 kill them?
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Another good product is Benefect http://www.sycorp.ca/Benefect-Botanical-Disinfectant-p-17089.html Just open it and put a fan in front of it. Keep mildew away and is safe.
The ozone genny is a good idea....BUT you have to remember to turn that gal off before you enter the room.
High concentrations of ozone will tank your lungs. I used to use one of those to control odor......but I can see it having wide applicability for control of fungus, mold, etc.
My suggestion is turning it off, giving the room a good 15-30 minutes to refresh and then get in there and do your business.
I had an Aranizer that shit the bed recently.......I used that in lieu of the ozone generator because it was lighter on the bad stuff.....
I did notice that my PM problems began around that time and intensified with the lack of use of such a device (ozone/aranizer).
I will say (and I'm almost hesitant to say this because I don't wanna jinx myself) that I've used Eagle 2x. I haven't seen any PM since. I had used practically everything prior to that, milk, hydrogen peroxide, UV light, water, greencure, etc....all to no avail.
I took Krunchbubble's advice and so far it's panned out. That mofo deserves a medal and a cookie.
I still think I may do some prophylactic spraying because the environmentals tend to get wonky this time of year with the heat and humidity setting in....plus one never knows what crapola you could track into your setup.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Krunchy, you're a grower AND a gentleman. Without your suggestion, my grow would be heels to Jesus right now. FWIW I owe you a giant fatty sometime.
High concentrations of ozone will tank your lungs. I used to use one of those to control odor......but I can see it having wide applicability for control of fungus, mold, etc.
My suggestion is turning it off, giving the room a good 15-30 minutes to refresh and then get in there and do your business.
I had an Aranizer that shit the bed recently.......I used that in lieu of the ozone generator because it was lighter on the bad stuff.....
I did notice that my PM problems began around that time and intensified with the lack of use of such a device (ozone/aranizer).
I will say (and I'm almost hesitant to say this because I don't wanna jinx myself) that I've used Eagle 2x. I haven't seen any PM since. I had used practically everything prior to that, milk, hydrogen peroxide, UV light, water, greencure, etc....all to no avail.
I took Krunchbubble's advice and so far it's panned out. That mofo deserves a medal and a cookie.
I still think I may do some prophylactic spraying because the environmentals tend to get wonky this time of year with the heat and humidity setting in....plus one never knows what crapola you could track into your setup.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Krunchy, you're a grower AND a gentleman. Without your suggestion, my grow would be heels to Jesus right now. FWIW I owe you a giant fatty sometime.
Ozone will fuck up your lungs big time if you grow where you live so... this might not be the best option for some. (its akin to sunburning your lungs).
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specialmeds
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I got PM a few months back, since Eagle20EW wasn't sold at any local stores, I put in my order and bought some Serenade in the mean time. The Serenade worked, but only for about a week and the PM came back, but I wasn't too surprised. -- When I got the Eagle20, I made my mix in a 5 gallon bucket, dipped all my clones that were infected, vegged for another week, and flowered them. My plants are now 4 weeks into bloom and there hasn't been any traces of PM.
Thank you Krunchbubble for saving my crop.
Thank you Krunchbubble for saving my crop.
specialmeds, how old were ur clones when u dipped them?
specialmeds
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They were a little less than 3 weeks old from the day I took the cuttings. I'm confident that you can use it earlier than that. Just use as directed, 2ml/gal + spreader, and it will never burn your plants.
I received my eagle 20 today from the bay. My flower room I will be harvesting in a week so it's to late to treat those. I have been hitting them with milk every 4-7 days and it has worked, but annoying to say the least.
I will be preparing my clones and mothers soon and will be using the eagle 20. I really look forward to a no-pm grow. Finally!
I grow on 6' rockwool blocks. Should I cover these to prevent the eagle 20 spray getting into the medium? I am running a drip to waste system and I use several beneficial bacterias in my nutes and directly on the medium. Would eagle 20 also kill my benificials?
How about a respirator, eye covers, long sleeved clothes, etc? Is everyone going fully protected before doing the spraying?
I will be preparing my clones and mothers soon and will be using the eagle 20. I really look forward to a no-pm grow. Finally!
I grow on 6' rockwool blocks. Should I cover these to prevent the eagle 20 spray getting into the medium? I am running a drip to waste system and I use several beneficial bacterias in my nutes and directly on the medium. Would eagle 20 also kill my benificials?
How about a respirator, eye covers, long sleeved clothes, etc? Is everyone going fully protected before doing the spraying?
is eagle 20 a fungistat? or a fungicide?
Just noticed two small spots of pm on my Sour Grapes. Been vegging for 2-3 weeks. Was about to flip to 12/12 in a few days but now I'm gonna wait till I treat my ladies. Got pm once before on my second grow cause of poor circulation and high humidity and tried fighting it with Safer 3n1 dunks in veg and baking soda/3n1 sprays in flower. Just kept knockin it down for awhile but would come back of course. This is my forth grow and my environment is a lot better but I think I got the fuzzy herps...friggin dispensaries!!! Thinkin bout orderin some Eagle20 e-dub and drenchin or spraying? Kinda pricey but cheaper than buyin new clones (can't trust dispensaries anyways).Questions: 1.) I have a week old seedling in a humidity dome, two tiny leaves, the roots are poppin out the bottom of the starter cube, too young to hit with the Eagle shite??? 2.) Should I dunk or spray my Sour Grapes and how long should I wait to flip'em?
TIA.
Got my Eagle 20EW yesterday $53.99 total, came in only two days, here's the link:
http://www.tampaagriculturalproducts.com/
Mixed 2ml in 1 gallon jug, added some dish soap, and put in sprayer. Sprayed all the plants except small seedling. Also acquired a couple of Pure Kush clones that clearly have pm (keeping them in a separate area) and drenched them. Plants were heavy and had to prop up some with sticks. They look great today and seem to have no ill effects. My plan is to flip the Sour Grapes this weekend to 12/12. Hopefully this Eagle does the trick. Will be reporting back soon.
http://www.tampaagriculturalproducts.com/
Mixed 2ml in 1 gallon jug, added some dish soap, and put in sprayer. Sprayed all the plants except small seedling. Also acquired a couple of Pure Kush clones that clearly have pm (keeping them in a separate area) and drenched them. Plants were heavy and had to prop up some with sticks. They look great today and seem to have no ill effects. My plan is to flip the Sour Grapes this weekend to 12/12. Hopefully this Eagle does the trick. Will be reporting back soon.
Motta-Tokka
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I have a bush outside that gets PM frequently in a hot, dry environment. The grow room is in a nearby garage and got PM once somehow. I believe it could have came from the bush or high levels of humidity. I ended up burning sulfer in the tent a few times, getting a dehumidifier, and no more PM. Not saying this will work for everyone but wanted to share my experience with it. The sulfer is great all around but is really nasty when it gets on you. Basically any bugs or crap that lands on that sulfer is freaking toast. I have seen spiders and nats freak out when they land on it.
bicycle racer
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i was getting depressed over pm. now there is hope for next 12/12 some friends gave me some eagle 20 mixed it in distilled water at about 1.75ml a gall. i will spray wednesday and see how it goes i have wet betty around as a sticker/spreader i figure that should work. to those who say perfect conditions blah blah blah eliminate or prevent pm completely well your simply lucky i use to think the same way until i got a sick clone.
there is no hoping that eagle will do the trick, it does and does it well.... the sour grapes you have is a rename of grape stomper, you must of got it at bluesky. its a ripper strain, leaves me confused after a few hits....
bicycle racer wrote-
dont worry about pm anymore! no need to get depressed, its gone man!
puff adder
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I'm a believer.
After getting PM in multiple rooms, and fighting it through a full crop, I sprayed my new plants with it and the PM is GONE.
After getting PM in multiple rooms, and fighting it through a full crop, I sprayed my new plants with it and the PM is GONE.
Hey Krunchbubble.
buddy, im an outdoor grower and cant control jack shit. One day of heavy rain, 3 days of blazing sun and 90+ temps/75% Rhumidity, one day of heavy rain, 3 days of blazing sun and 90+/75%RH and on and on and on- . Plus the logistics of trying to treat 30 or 40 8' plants is a damn big job with gallons and gallons of spray. I need something that last a couple of weeks anyway.
Last year, pm killed 30+ lbs of smoke for $100,000 of my annual income. This aint no fuckin hobby and ive tried everything under the sun to prevent it but so far its all been bullshit. Ive avoided systemics but youre helping me get over that aversion .
If youre right I'll owe you big time. Ive ordered a gallon. I dont give a shit if my tits get big.... I'll play with them myself, and hell, we can allways use a few extra nuts in this business.
ps. Boys, neem makes a damn good surfacant. (sticker spreader) 2 tlbs per gallon.
buddy, im an outdoor grower and cant control jack shit. One day of heavy rain, 3 days of blazing sun and 90+ temps/75% Rhumidity, one day of heavy rain, 3 days of blazing sun and 90+/75%RH and on and on and on- . Plus the logistics of trying to treat 30 or 40 8' plants is a damn big job with gallons and gallons of spray. I need something that last a couple of weeks anyway.
Last year, pm killed 30+ lbs of smoke for $100,000 of my annual income. This aint no fuckin hobby and ive tried everything under the sun to prevent it but so far its all been bullshit. Ive avoided systemics but youre helping me get over that aversion .
If youre right I'll owe you big time. Ive ordered a gallon. I dont give a shit if my tits get big.... I'll play with them myself, and hell, we can allways use a few extra nuts in this business.
ps. Boys, neem makes a damn good surfacant. (sticker spreader) 2 tlbs per gallon.
bicycle racer
Member
exactly indoor and out depending where you are you cant always completely control conditions and as far as exposure i can go out in my yard (socal) and see pm all over various species of plants. the spores are micronic in size and blow all over the place. basically my plants will be exposed to pm at any given time so with this eagle 20 if all is true which i hope it is exposure to spores will be a non issue. even if the plants become infected at say week 4 of flower after the treatment has worn off the plants will be done before it can really hurt them. it almost seems to good to be true. i will spray my veggers on wednesday im excited to hopefully be done with pm.
puff adder
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Eagle-20 is all the talk at the hydro shops!
In my area, with the late rains and vineyards, the disease pressure is off the charts, and EVERYONE has PM.
Hanging out at the hydro shop that my buddy works at, there wasn't one person that didn't come in asking about what to do about PM.
I was happy to give a positive report that Eagle-20 has worked great for me, and hopefully it'll save some other's crops. PM almost killed one of my crops.
One thing that did come up in our discussions, is whether Eagle-20 will work against bud rot? One guy was interested in whether it killed regular grey mold as well.
In my area, with the late rains and vineyards, the disease pressure is off the charts, and EVERYONE has PM.
Hanging out at the hydro shop that my buddy works at, there wasn't one person that didn't come in asking about what to do about PM.
I was happy to give a positive report that Eagle-20 has worked great for me, and hopefully it'll save some other's crops. PM almost killed one of my crops.
One thing that did come up in our discussions, is whether Eagle-20 will work against bud rot? One guy was interested in whether it killed regular grey mold as well.
