This Is How You Kill Powder Mildew Forever!!!!!

[Phillthy]

eagle 20 is a PM assassin

 

[DJXXPLATINUM]

WOW THIS JA BOSS CHARACTER IS STRONGLY OPINIONATED.........BET HE SUCKS TO PARTY WITH...DJ

 

[greenmatter]

i think he is saying if you like things that kill pm you are a groupie.

 

[budbasket]

While I understand the argument of spraying any harmful fungicides/pesticides on veggies/fruit/flowers, any gardener who runs for an extended length of time, short of running a completely sealed and clean environment, and even then, will run into some sort of problem. I have tried everything natural from baking soda, ph+10 water, organoicde, as well as products like Z/P, and of course cleaning all rooms thoroughly and it still comes back. As it has been said before the disease itself is systemic, the only way to truly rid yourself is to treat with a product that is absorbed through the cell walls of plants. Plus the argument of using the same products tobacco farmers use is semi-moot considering cigarettes contain dozens of known carcinogens released when burned not to mention the amount of nicotine and the addictive properties of which the CEO's of major companies blatantly lied to the American public for 30+ years.

 

[merlin123]

Krunchbubble how many drops of dish soap do you use? Thanks a bunch.

 

[kstampy]

Krunchbubble how many drops of dish soap do you use? Thanks a bunch.

Doesn't have to be much I would say around 5 drops/gal? I used Ivory. I am going to spray with the dutch penetrator next time but that Could be years from now considering one spray took care of my problem .

 

[krunchbubble]

Krunchbubble how many drops of dish soap do you use? Thanks a bunch.

Doesn't have to be much I would say around 5 drops/gal? I used Ivory. I am going to spray with the dutch penetrator next time but that Could be years from now considering one spray took care of my problem .

exactly a couple drops works. haven't tried the penetrator but it cant hurt!

funny you say that, i haven't sprayed for PM for a long time....

 

[Mountain]

haven't tried the penetrator but it cant hurt!

Seems to work good.

 

[hiker]

Plus the argument of using the same products tobacco farmers use is semi-moot considering cigarettes contain dozens of known carcinogens released when burned not to mention the amount of nicotine and the addictive properties of which the CEO's of major companies blatantly lied to the American public for 30+ years.

I never said use the same chemicals, I simply meant to look at the days to harvest with pesticides they use since tobacco is also smoked. My point is trying to compare days to harvest for cousuming a product by eating as compared to smoking is like trying to compare apples to oranges, two completely different things. I don't mean to argue, just trying to help. Also for people selling their product, don't forget there are people who are severely allergic to pesticides and by-products, just trying to help people stay safe. By the way Eagle and Propoconizal are also sterile inhibitors, and during periods of high heat and stress they have been known to root prune. You are not going to find that in the label.

 

[budbasket]

I'm not trying to argue either just solve a problem. If users have had buds tested in labs and tested clean, I would lean towards it being alright to use, responsibly. But again that's the problem with growing an illegal federal product, there just hasn't been enough research. It's quickly changing though...

 

[merlin123]

krunchbubble thanks for the reply.

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

I hope you all don't mind, but I've used major parts of this thread to support the requirement of lab testing for medical marijuana in California. KB - you have helped clearly demonstrated that lab scrutiny is required for our industry. NO OFFENSE INTENDED.

To my fellow Californians: Don't be surprised when dispensaries return your bud as it has tested positive for "myclobutanil" (Eagle 20), or "abamectin" (Avid). Sick people don't need neurotoxins. Especially when many of us grow organic, and use teas instead of poisons. Back to the out of state black markets for your toxic buds.

I digress. Back to the thread... spray toxins, no problems forever... yay!

 

[Clackamas Coot]

To my fellow Californians: Don't be surprised when dispensaries return your bud as it has tested positive for "myclobutanil" (Eagle 20), or "abamectin" (Avid)

But what about the 'big flush' so often promoted? That doesn't work?

Dang it!

CC

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

But what about the 'big flush' so often promoted? That doesn't work?
Dang it! CC

.... the toxins

Okay, back to the thread.

 

[krunchbubble]

I hope you all don't mind, but I've used major parts of this thread to support the requirement of lab testing for medical marijuana in California. KB - you have helped clearly demonstrated that lab scrutiny is required for our industry. NO OFFENSE INTENDED.

To my fellow Californians: Don't be surprised when dispensaries return your bud as it has tested positive for "myclobutanil" (Eagle 20), or "abamectin" (Avid). Sick people don't need neurotoxins. Especially when many of us grow organic, and use teas instead of poisons. Back to the out of state black markets for your toxic buds.

I digress. Back to the thread... spray toxins, no problems forever... yay!

no offense taken, i understand why people have a concern. ive had many batches tested at steep hill lab. including not only flower but coldwater hash and bho. all came back clean. so have many people here.

usually when you use eagle 20 once, that's pretty much it for pm. as long as all stock are from the same clean parents and nothing is introduced into the garden, there would be no more spraying.

its been so long since i sprayed, i honestly cant remember when.....

 

[Mountain]

To my fellow Californians: Don't be surprised when dispensaries return your bud as it has tested positive for "myclobutanil" (Eagle 20), or "abamectin" (Avid).

So if you're in contact with a lab or dispensary what's the percentage of rejected samples/lots and for what?

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

So if you're in contact with a lab or dispensary what's the percentage of rejected samples/lots and for what?

See here: http://steephilllab.com/services/microbiological-screen/

This is from a friend, we were discussing this topic today.

"This is from their site:
Because mold is ubiquitous, it is not surprising that 85% of the cannabis tested at our lab has shown traces of mold. However, only 3% of those samples have been deemed unsafe under general guidelines for herbal products.

3% is big enough to allow opposition to sound the alarm. This does not include pesticides either, which could be another couple %. If you were talking 5% then 1 in 20 samples would be undesirable. Because there is such an increase in health disorders from unknown contaminants in the atmosphere, environment and food supply, there are similar issues raised with cannabis. Because it is a medical industry that scrutiny is far greater. As a person that goes to a lot of city council meetings believe that there are a lot of towns considering and allowing for access because these controls are in place. It is standard in all medicine production fields, and standard in all countries with established medical cannabis industries (Netherlands, Canada)."

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Actually 5% rejection is the norm in commercial organic products when tested by USDA at destination. Much of this can be attributed to overspray from surrounding farms using conventional processes.

Interesting.

CC

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

Actually 5% rejection is the norm in commercial organic products when tested by USDA at destination. Much of this can be attributed to overspray from surrounding farms using conventional processes. Interesting. CC

CC with another great fact. I'll ask about rejection for -icide sprays. I've heard of Harborside returning pounds for this already.

Steep Hill Lab offers comprehensive medical cannabis safety screening and an independent certification system — including the “SafeCannabis™” certification seal identified to customers with labels and stickers provided to participating dispensaries and growers — to self-regulate their processes in order to assure safe and clean medicines and advance the cause of cannabis therapeutics. Independent testing can reduce the risks of contamination, and thereby improve the overall quality of the cannabis distributed as medicine through the dispensaries. Steep Hill’s certification program helps medical cannabis patients know the quality of the cannabis they are using as medicine.The SafeCannabis™ Seal assures the patient that the medicine is pure, pesticide-free, and properly measured for potency.

 

[The Captain]

hey krunch just wanted to say thank you for posting this thread, i lost 2 crops in a row, i tried all of the "band-aid" treatments and nothing really worked, then i found this thread bought some eagle 20 and will be choppin my clean crop tomorrow! thanks again