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Thinking of using local soil...maybe?

Coba

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"the highest quality herb a human being can grow in an indoor potted cannabis cycle...period!"

let's analyze this for a second... human beings came way after dirt, and way after plants. evolutionarily speaking...

we need them however, for our survival... but, I don't think they need us, Humans that is, for shit.

that said, the least we could do... down our path of using up everything we see, is make these creatures as comfortable as possible during their journey through our closets. since we are the only ones truly benefiting by our brief encounter with said beings.
 

Jamorg13

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Have you ever considered or experimented with companion planting a leguminous cover crop such as clover or vetch into your pots?

Not sure if you give your pots a couple weeks/months break, but that would be a great time to plant one as well.

I have been considering giving it a go for a while.
 

Coba

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don't legumes need the nods on their roots to have any nitrogen-fixing benefit?

and, aren't the bacteria in the soil responsible for the nods on legume's roots?

and lastly, what makes legumes most desirable as a living mulch/cover crop for indoor potted annuals?
 

Coba

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^^^ not to thread jack or anything....

"Have you ever considered or experimented with companion planting "

yes, that's why I ask. I have some heather, some sedum and some other fast growing ground cover. I was wondering if it makes a big difference in my indoor environment whether I use a legume or a succulent?
 

Gascanastan

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I think we came to the conclusion that nitrogen fixing plants in no-till containers is probably pretty ineffective compared to a larger cover crop in common agriculture. The larger pots may get some benefit from it,but as far as indoor cannabis cycles go...unlikely that it can beat what kelp meal or any other commonly replaced amendment I've incorporated.

I think we collectively decided back then when poking at this stuff,that if we are going to do cover crop/living mulch lets use legumes/clovers
I used a cover crop mix containing vetch,rye grass,crimson clover,and legumes on a no-till cycle once.
 

Jamorg13

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^^ how did it work out?

I was thinking more along the lines of if you give the pots a few weeks break in between cycles.
 

Jamorg13

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don't legumes need the nods on their roots to have any nitrogen-fixing benefit?

and, aren't the bacteria in the soil responsible for the nods on legume's roots?

and lastly, what makes legumes most desirable as a living mulch/cover crop for indoor potted annuals?
Yes they do need the nodules on there roots to fix nitrogen.

I'm not really sure why or if they are the most desirable for indoor potted annuals, in fact I have never even heard of anyone doing it.. But it sounds like a fun experiment!
 

Jamorg13

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I think we came to the conclusion that nitrogen fixing plants in no-till containers is probably pretty ineffective compared to a larger cover crop in common agriculture. The larger pots may get some benefit from it,but as far as indoor cannabis cycles go...unlikely that it can beat what kelp meal or any other commonly replaced amendment I've incorporated.

I think we collectively decided back then when poking at this stuff,that if we are going to do cover crop/living mulch lets use legumes/clovers
I used a cover crop mix containing vetch,rye grass,crimson clover,and legumes on a no-till cycle once.
I haven't had time to read all the way through this thread, so I don't know what size pot they/you are using, but I am growing trees in 30 gallon pots that veg for 2-3 months and flower 2-3 months. I wonder if a leguminous CC would be more effective/useful in a situation like mine? Especially with a strain such as my bubba kush that always seems to get very N hungry in flower.

This fall on my outdoor vegetable garden I am going to be experimenting with Austrian Winter Pea as a cover crop, not just only for the N fixing, but to avoid erosion, suppress weeds, and contribute organic matter.
 

Gascanastan

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Oh lordy!

Blue Orca x NL#5/Haze @ 30 days......real deal recycled organic living soil....just Coot's barley tea and ACT so far..

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Gascanastan

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Fabulous heirloom landrace hybrid crossed to the known heirloom IBL,...are those in a no-till or fresh mix...I forgetz.

'The One' x BMR F2...short and sweet @ 30 days~

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intotheunknown

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dude, seriously... how do you get these awesome photos consistently?
I have killer plants to take pics of and i do, but i just cannot get them to turn out like these^
any pointers? ive read in other threads that you just take a bunch and pick out the good ones, but seriously.
 
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Old_Headbanger

Man, those are some beautiful plants. Id love to know what those smell like! The internet is great, but there's nothing like the real thing! I'd love to smoke a big ol' joint of some of that goodness. All those landraces and crosses sound so good when you read about them on the rols thread. And these pics make me flippen drool.
 
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BlueJayWay

Gas, that particular plant is 2nd run notill 5gal

This TO x SC99 shares an 18gal notill on its 3rd run, very little inputs at this point - across the board with all my recycled soil...
 

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