Think its time i give up

[Dropped Cat]

Well for a few years now I've had the same problem with every grow.

I'm not exaggerating either, this must be the 3rd year it's been going on.

The only thing that's been kept constant is my water supply.

Unless anybody else has any other suggestions?

Peace

Well. fuck.

I wish my healthy plants looked as good as yours.

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with wanting what you want,
but even if you close shop now, you'll soon find frustration
from unknowns in other aspects of your day to day.

Time to hunker down, fix it, and go from there.

If you switch to coco now, there will be more variables
to iron out, and your plants may spot out again. Not
the best case, but you will have the diversion from the
issue you have now.

Before you change anything, get your tap water tested
like what's been mentioned before.

My opinion, I use a simple cartridge type filter under
sink mount for my cold water supply. I change the filter
every 4 months, and the EC is 0.1.

Also, your plants may have caught something from your bathroom, lol

Good luck, we're all counting on you!

 

[sourpuss]

Your buds look good and tight. Nice work.

Little def shouldnt be so hard to fix...

Attached is cal def...

 

[Lester Beans]

Looks like your foliar spray is too hot or sprayed when lights are on.

 

[ganjygav]

I haven't sprayed them for weeks, that's the first time that one plant has been in the bathroom and it hasn't got the spots

 

[ganjygav]

Thanks for the encouragement, you're probably right about finding something else to stress on. Oh I don't know now. Do I go coco and have to start over the learning process or stick with soil lol.
I reckon Im gonna stick with soil and use bottled water.
If I jump into coco I reckon I may have more problems with my lack of knowledge. Not what I need right now.
What sort of water test are people suggesting?

 

[Tynehead Tom]

I gonna say, the answer is here. I would try the RO suggestions.
I suppose everyone pays different prices for water so this is probably irrelevant but I bought 5 of the 5 gallon clear blue water cooler jugs of RO water. I think they were 5 bux or maybe 15, have to ask the wife. She takes them with her to town when they are empty and the refill station charges 1.00 to refill the bottle with RO. it's just an automated, coin operated dispenser. Cheap n easy LOL
I may look into an RO system in the near future but for now with my smallish indoor grow, the plants are thanking me

 

[Baron Greenback]

Have you got enough space to try a little side by side? There doesn't seem much wrong but you are clearly a perfectionist
If you can do 1 pot in coco for an experiment and then your normal grow in soil you may find the coco interesting. Ph around 5.9 for coco though.

 

[Green81]

Gav, have a try with coco, why not try half coco on one side of the tent and soil the other. I think you'll have a nice surprise. I would use smaller pots for the coco grown plants though.

 

[hazyfontazy]

a cheap way to try coco is go poundstretcher ,,they do coco block/pot for a quid and grow bloom and pk for a quid too ..easy starting point for coco

 

[Mikell]

What about a soil and water test?

Plant material is out of the question, I assume, but you would get an idea of what is going on in the medium.

Perfectionism is how beauty is created. No half assery or sloppy slip shod work ever led anywhere worth going.

 

[MJPassion]

^^THIS!^^

Get your soil & water tested by an agronomy lab.
Once tested you will know where your problems are coming from. Take your soil test to an agronomist and get their recomendations for inputs & how to treat your water.

Most municipal water systems are loaded with bicarbonates. Hence the reason for the RO filter suggestions.
I've been using the add back to RO method for a while with much success as well. 3/1 to 4/1 RO/tap, depending on your tap ppm.

Also, as Dan mentioned, try an Epsom/ RO foliar and see if that helps clear the issue.

This whole thread seems focused on your water, so far, so get that shit tested A.S.A.P.

Im also somewhat of a perfectionist.
It really puts the brakes on a lot of my activities but I'm learning to deal with the chaos that perfectionist perceive so easily.

 

[Trich_Tyson]

Here's some pictures, the sativa at back is iced grapefruit. It came in a small pot but was a tall plant. I out them in 11ltr pots and vegged for little over 2 weeks. I supercropped the main stem at a 45 degree angle and she still got that tall.
She don't have the spots but she does like she's a little N tox but at same time N deficient as well if that's possible.
Either way I've just flushed and added half strength bloom.
The other 2 plants are the ones with the spots.

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Hey man. cmon dog.. give up?? small issue. Your plants look better than my plants on average looked the past 2 grows.

Take this just as my 2 cents.. maybe as a half penny compared to the other guys in this thread
I posted in the infirmary a while back about issues i was having.. freaking out thinking it was fungus or something

some of the worse off plants looked like:

Dansbud and some other folks helped me out tremendously in the thread.. that was my calcium issue.. started splotchy and turned brown.. also affected edges of leaves (not unlike your fan leaf pics) and brown splotches kinda like on ur sugar leaf.. tho i kind of resolved the issue before flower.

My magnesium issue was pretty evident.. can't find any pics.. but it was the intervenal yellowing (that i figured must be nitrogen).. not unlike a few leaves in ur full plant shot i think



i think they are on point with the water. I was using 450 ppm tap.. assumed it was high in cal.. didn't use cal mag.. had my issues.. bumped my base because i thought that would help. kinda did. finally stopped being stubborn and used some damn cal mag.. cured. Use cal mag full blast.. keep the base nute normal. (I hurt my yield by fucking with the NPKs instead of trusting the calmag)

I have also been lead to believe that much of the TDS in ur tap are not what u think.. (sodium and or other minerals (including cal mag) that because of science are not "uptakable") - and I sure as hell believe

I will not use tap like that again... pain in the ass dude.

maybe i'm wrong and my deficiencies look nothing like ur plants..

But anyway man. keep on keeping on.. you'll be good

 

[Trich_Tyson]

ah shit.. sorry about the big ass pics.. not really sure how to resize..

 

[Lester Beans]

The above pics are a mag/k def. If that's similar then there's your problem.

 

[FunkBomb]

Every fertilizer company out there makes a cal/mag supplement. Give your plants that with a good all around NPK fertilizer and you'll be fine. This isn't rocket science its just growing a plant. There are a good number of strains out there that are cal/mag hogs.

-Funk

 

[ganjygav]

I give them calmag, I've been using it for last 3 grows. I use the calmagne+ along with the nutrients from the same line,even my soil. It's all the same brand. I had a few years without this problem, I know how to grow. I just can't seem to shake this problem that's been plaguing me for the past 3 years.

 

[slownickel]

Lay off the Mg. You have a calcium problem, which may be a problem of over watering. Let things dry out a bit before watering. I posted some articles which may help.

Lots of folks have problems due to too much Mg. Mg can be toxic at more than 30% of the base distribution and can cause lots of problems prior to getting to that point.

Bicarbonates in the water makes a calcium deficiency much bigger. Try some gypsum. Keep putting small quantities on all through your grow and don't over water!

 

[Xanode]

buy an RO system, cheap ones are only $50 on eBay and if your water is bad even a dirt cheap RO will clean it up massively... hell even just a nonRO under sink filter ay be enough

 

[slownickel]

Xanode,

RO would eliminate one of the problems. Almost everyone over waters.

Over watering always makes a calcium deficiency.

With all those issues taken care of, no one has enough calcium in their grow.

If you read through some of the soil analysis posted, SHCrew for one, you will see what happens when you have decent calcium level, and even that one is short a bit.

Try an experiment or two....

 

[Xanode]

1. buy bags of canna coco
2. buy canna coco A+B+Add's
3. ?
4. Profit