The Utterly Wank Coffeeshop Thread

[AceHaze]

I also noticed the decrease in quality during the last 10 years. It´s reallly hard to find bud that can compete with your homegrown. I had decent bud at the greenhouse, but also total crappy weed at the same time. Same thing with barneys, dampkring and all the other well-known shops. YOu just have to take a close look at everthing before you buy it and don´t just go by names. The most consistent quality I got from the grey area and the green place, but hey are quite pricey.

peace
Ace

 

[Maj.PotHead]

i was in the dam once 1981 they only had the bulldog and milkyway coffe houses. had a 4 day pass when i was in the army good times

 

[FreshlyShaven]

I also noticed the decrease in quality during the last 10 years. It´s reallly hard to find bud that can compete with your homegrown. I had decent bud at the greenhouse, but also total crappy weed at the same time. Same thing with barneys, dampkring and all the other well-known shops. YOu just have to take a close look at everthing before you buy it and don´t just go by names. The most consistent quality I got from the grey area and the green place, but hey are quite pricey.

peace
Ace

Strangely enough, the worst weed I ever had was the Lemon Larry from Green Place. I mean, not even smokeable. I threw it away and I NEVER do that with weed. Katsu has some pretty reliable stuff, as did the Funky Monkey.

 

[funkervogt]

I've been there about 10 times in the past 7 years, the longest trip 6 weeks. I watched as bud and hash become progressively shit year-over-year.

Dampkring, Grey Area, De Kuil all used to be great. I remember tripping balls for 30 minutes at De Kuil on their hash, holding the joint and staring at the table until the budtender came to make sure I was okay. I once saw a guy at Grey Area so blasted he fell asleep right at the bar mid-conversaion. Then there were the few odd shops that would open and close within a year, often times had the best bud.

The first to drop in quality was Dampkring, sometime around 2004 when Brad Pitt started stopping by and the place became insanely popular. Grey Area started to suck around the same time Seeds Direct closed their location (2008?). Now it's all crap, even De Kuil's hash, which used to be so reliable.

Is this a result of the conservative government, or just greed?

BTW, the shit I was getting in LA in 2009 was mind-blowing. That brought me back to the good ol' days of A'Dam. Just wish it was easier to bud-tour the W. Coast.

 

[AceHaze]

Strangely enough, the worst weed I ever had was the Lemon Larry from Green Place. I mean, not even smokeable. I threw it away and I NEVER do that with weed. Katsu has some pretty reliable stuff, as did the Funky Monkey.

There is just no reliable shop that only sells top notch stuff... Last year I threw/gave away buds worth at least 100 €! It was Mexican Haze from the Dampkring (unsmokeable, didn´t burn),Red Diesel from Barneys and most of the stuff i bought at Katsu(!)-their Super Haze and NL#5Haze were harsh as f### and burned to black ashes. The only perfectly grown herbs I had on that trip were OG#18 and Casey Jones from the Grey Area and Sour Diesel from the Rokery. The best strain on the menu can be the worst the next day, you never know...

Peace
Ace

 

[3eyes]

Is the weed in Dam getting worse OR is it that we are getting better at growing our own? for the 1st 5 times i visited the Dam i used to think how i could get my buds to taste as good as what i was smoking there, the last time i visited (july) i thought F'me this gear is ok but not a patch on what i'm producing now but the other guys with me were still in awe (they know best and spend enough on their grows already) the main reason i go is to smoke as many new strains as i can so i've got an idea of what i want grow next which is how i ended up with my sogouda

 

[Prest1]

Its because when we all do our grows, we put love into it because we want it to be as good as it can be. We may flush for slightly longer or perhaps cure it properly?

In the Dam, its grown as a cash crop, just like tomatoes or flowers. The aim is to produce enough acceptable bud to make more money. Then, why sit on it for a while and cure it? Just get it gone!

Its just the different mindset from percy growers to cash croppers.

Not saying all big scale is bad obviously, just some.

 

[Lion of Judah]

Its because when we all do our grows, we put love into it because we want it to be as good as it can be. We may flush for slightly longer or perhaps cure it properly?

In the Dam, its grown as a cash crop, just like tomatoes or flowers. The aim is to produce enough acceptable bud to make more money. Then, why sit on it for a while and cure it? Just get it gone!

Its just the different mindset from percy growers to cash croppers.

Not saying all big scale is bad obviously, just some.

This. Think about it - if you're growing for a coffeeshop, you've got a set date on when you're gonna harvest. Since you're not smoking the weed yourself (maybe just not this weed, maybe you've got plants for private use somewhere) it doesn't really matter if you don't squeeze out those extra few days. It's probably not gonna sell for any more. They will probably also not pay much attention to plants at an individual level, if there are lots of them. Mass production.

Then think of the small-scale grower (and yes, coffeeshops do sometimes buy from small, bedroom variety growers as well AFAIK) - are you gonna bag up the main cola from the best pheno in your garden? Hell no. You're gonna keep the top buds and sell the popcorn.

 

[Yarkand]

In general Dutch are about yield not quality, not saying there arent great growers but the market is saturated with money/time saving growers unfortunately.

There will always be dank in Holland but its not everywhere.

 

[Leeroy&Co:]

Your coffee shop's may have changed over time or grow on mass with lower personal attention to detail or quality ,but hey, atleast you got them to use if you want to? lucky buggers, Id love to be able to sample out smoke before choosing on growing certain strains.

 

[Gastro]

In general Dutch are about yield not quality, not saying there arent great growers but the market is saturated with money/time saving growers unfortunately.

There will always be dank in Holland but its not everywhere.

Not entirely true. Yes, time is of the essence and it mostly quantity strains are used in hydro setups etc..
Weed is still selected on how hard it is. The qualification among locals in coffeeshops is how "STONED"do you get. Haze for example gets you very "stoned" (yeah really), and is therefore the more expensive one. That it tastes like nutrients and isn't properly cured, doesn't matter to them.

 

[vSync]

Watch out for Het 'ballonetje on Roeterstraat
The dealer there gave me a light deal of Lemon Haze, never went back again

 

[fizzbomb]

the worst coffee shop that i visited a few weeks ago when i was in the dam has to be the greenhouse next to barneys and i will explain, went in to buy some bud and there was a little line of people waiting to be served, bud tender came over to the counter, served this guy and went away??? then 2 min later he came back and served the next guy who just looked at the menu and asked for 1g of kali mist and then he went away again, still a line of people waiting to be served, he comes back 2 mins later and serves the next guy, now at this point i was wondering wtf he was doing, we are next to be served after the guy in front of us, and thats when i seen what the budtender was doing when he was going away and coming back, he was sat down at a table eating for 2 mins and then serving some1 and going back to eat at a table and then serving some1 else, i did not even want to see a menu at this point and just walked out, the guy looked like he did not even want to be there, but i wont be going back to the greenhouse in a hurry.

when the guy purchased the kali mist, i seen the bud he bought and it did not look up to much at all, and this is the thing i dont get, why people just order off the menu without asking to see the bud first?? but maybe when they go to a place like greenhouse they expect all the bud to be first class bud, not the case at all with the kali mist but unless you dont mind buying any old shit then i urge every1 to ask to see what they are buying first in any coffeeshop before you make a purchase and please dont feel like your offending the budtender by asking to see the bud first and if you dont like it politely refuse, just say no ty and again dont feel like your offending them by refusing as if they are offering me shit bud then i feel like they are offending me by offering me the shit in the first place and expecting me to buy it, so i do not feel bad at all saying no ty if i dont like the look of something but every1 should always ask to see what they are buying first, any good coffee shop wont mind showing you what they got without any problems, usually the smaller 1s, seems to be the franchise coffee shops that dont give a shit ( barneys, greenhouse ) and will try and sell you any old shit and thats the thing with these coffee shops, they seem to be able to get away with it, i would rather give my money to a coffee shop that did care about the customer rather than waste my money on a franchise coffeshop,

i got to see most of the buds in barneys as when we were waiting to be served we had a look at what other people were buying and it did not look good at all, so we settled for 1g of the tangerine dream which looked about the best they had, maybe they were keeping all the best buds back for the cup??? same with greenhouse maybe, but i wont be going back to any of they coffee shops again in a hurry.

now i know this is the utterly wank coffeeshop thread but i have to give this little coffee shop a mention as it was 1 of the most welcoming coffee shops i think we visited in the dam, you could ask to see every bud without any problems and the quality of the buds were first class all at a very reasonable price, the diesel they had in was the best bit of diesel i found in the dam, every bud was a really nice looking bit of bud and everything tasted the way it should, and the service we got in the place was amazing, and the coffee shop was Betty Boop, sometimes looking for really good bud in the dam is like trying to find a needle in a haystack, but i think you will find the hidden gems in the smaller coffee shops instead of the bigger franchise 1s, but every1 please ask to see the bud before you buy and dont feel bad saying no ty if the bud looks shit, and if the budtender looks like he is annoyed showing you anything or he is getting offended by you saying no ty take your money elsewhere

p.s, greenhouse did have a set of scales next to the counter so when you buy your bud and if you think its short any you can weight it there and then, that was a very good idea, maybe more coffee shops should do this as well.

 

[Max Headroom]

^^^
yeah, i know which GH you mean. i once stood there alone at the counter for 5+ minutes without anyone bothering to serve me. since they didn't really have any strains i desperately wanted to try, i left, never to come back again.

 

[mack 10]

I feel you on the que, and some bud tenders but when you already have some stash, the greenhouse is one of the best to sit and chill in. Mack.

 

[neuroherb]

Pasja in Tilburg. Try the Maroc and you'll figure out where all the scrapbar folk won't smoke in the UK is going these days.

 

[prepress420]

The all-time worst is Grasshopper.

 

[homme]

2 weeks ago I was in Amsterdam:

-OG Kush from "Bulldog" at Leidseplein (yeah I know, it just was near to my hotel) had no good taste / effects, very small buds and even powdered leaves (?) / dust at the bottom of the bag, which made up 1/4 of the bag actually. Damn tourist trap, I should have known better

- Chocolopo Haze from "Extreme" had a strange chemical / artifical taste, probably due to nutes / not being flushed, or what could be even worse, treated with Brix or PK13/14

--> that was the biggest disappointment. When asking the guy from the shop what could lead to such strange smell, he replied " probably high amount of THC" .... ahm, what???

Furthermore, I found many strains smelling exactly the same when checking / smelling small bags all, probably overfertilized stuff.

But not all was bad:

- "Himalayah" (hash) from "BasJoe was" really good, but I have read about brixed weed sold there.. Glad I did only buy hash there

- White Dolphin ("Dolphins") was great, a sativa / indica hybrid. But also here, I had the feeling its overfertilized, all in all smell was average

 

[Lebniis]

Has anyone been to OLD AMSTERDAM? I had a great week in Amsterdam and the coffee shop Old Amsterdam was my favorite of all the places visited. Smoked over a half ounce of bud and a quarter ounce of hash over the 7 days of being there.

 

[stasis]

IMHO, Amsterdam buds are rarely as good as NorCal...

One year, I sent an oz of my Organic Greenhouse-grown original Chemdog plus a few grams of full melt to meet me.. Back in the day.. haha.. Traded for the best nugs directly from the owners of Cannabis Cup winning C'shops.. That was epic.. They had not yet had the real Chemdog.. One Notable Owner was obviously VERY surprised at what we had.. Floored would be more accurate.. It was a 70% Sativa, and you know how much those Guys like Sattys.. haha..

But the Flavourful Hashes, OH YEAH>.. That;s what I enjoy.. Straight out the pipe. Pure.

Especially the organic ones. Rifman's products are my favorite, as I feel I can trust the production. It's been a couple years since I was there, so I am making an assumption that Rifman;s Hash is still available.

Almost anything at a couple special C'shops can be trusted. Katsu is one.. A pilgrimage worth making..

Yes, Prepress, I am with ya, Gasshopper is no biggie - but they sometimes have really interesting Turkish Hash - hard to find...

If ya find a C;shop where ya feel right at home, that is the best one, regardless..!!! All of then usually have some good hasj... But, it is OK to buy a couple cups of herbal tea, snd smoke whatcha already got, in a great, chill enviornment.

Peace...