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Verdant Whisperer

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I think the misunderstanding is that when i talk i dont care about grammar as much but when i use the chatbot to put information nicely, it is perfect, that would make someone think its 2 different people.
 

Orange's Greenhouse

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I don't get your point man, this model i created with critital thought and used ai for conversing with to make model and put into a format for sharing? if you like the model good, but dont say i stole it. it is my work i want to share no one elses. google got the information from this post.
So... you just sat at a desk and thought of something and think this is good enough to share it?

I mean... that's how science worked in the 19th century. You look at two things, e.g. Shiva and Zeus, ascertain that both have a lightning bolt and BAM! it's the same. That there are 5000 years and 10000 km between both cultures doesn't matter. (that's how you sound, but with more rambling and less education)

In the modern world hypothesis are tested by experiment. Go ahead, make a controlled experiment that tries to disprove your point and if you fail to do so repeatedly you're up to something.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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So... you just sat at a desk and thought of something and think this is good enough to share it?

I mean... that's how science worked in the 19th century. You look at two things, e.g. Shiva and Zeus, ascertain that both have a lightning bolt and BAM! it's the same. That there are 5000 years and 10000 km between both cultures doesn't matter. (that's how you sound, but with more rambling and less education)

In the modern world hypothesis are tested by experiment. Go ahead, make a controlled experiment that tries to disprove your point and if you fail to do so repeatedly you're up to something.
If you want to use the AER or like the information good, but if not stop making assumptions like the other guy saying it wasn't my ideas or that i just thought of some idea's its alot more complex with that and this idea is the results of 1000;s of hours of research and thought over time that led to me able to make the associations and connections and to understand the plant at such a level. if you want to make assumptions as well like saying i "So... you just sat at a desk and thought of something and think this is good enough to share it?" go to someone elses thread, if you have a critical response why this model doesn't work or a question pertaining to it great, but you and the other dude if your just being trolls your not welcome on this thread just to try and get a rise out of me, or say some bullshit about scientific research without even contributing intellectually to the conversation.
 

Orange's Greenhouse

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If you want to use the AER or like the information good, but if not stop making assumptions like the other guy saying it wasn't my ideas or that i just thought of some idea's its alot more complex with that and this idea is the results of 1000;s of hours of research and thought over time that led to me able to make the associations and connections and to understand the plant at such a level. if you want to make assumptions as well like saying i "So... you just sat at a desk and thought of something and think this is good enough to share it?" go to someone elses thread, if you have a critical response why this model doesn't work or a question pertaining to it great, but you and the other dude if your just being trolls your not welcome on this thread just to try and get a rise out of me, or say some bullshit about scientific research without even contributing intellectually to the conversation.
Why is your thing that you just thought up more credible than 100 years of modern biology, which is backed by experiment and was revised many times as new evidence was presented?

Your rambling is full of logical errors. For example you say that photoreceptors do not measure the lenght of days but rather the intensity of light. But what is night if not low intensity light? Integrating both signals yields to the same result: lenght of day.
I could go on buy why argue with a chatbot...
 

Drippy Sally

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So... you just sat at a desk and thought of something and think this is good enough to share it?

I mean... that's how science worked in the 19th century. You look at two things, e.g. Shiva and Zeus, ascertain that both have a lightning bolt and BAM! it's the same. That there are 5000 years and 10000 km between both cultures doesn't matter. (that's how you sound, but with more rambling and less education)

In the modern world hypothesis are tested by experiment. Go ahead, make a controlled experiment that tries to disprove your point and if you fail to do so repeatedly you're up to something.
This is why I didn't even read his garbage.
 

Verdant Whisperer

Well-known member
Why is your thing that you just thought up more credible than 100 years of modern biology, which is backed by experiment and was revised many times as new evidence was presented?

Your rambling is full of logical errors. For example you say that photoreceptors do not measure the lenght of days but rather the intensity of light. But what is night if not low intensity light? Integrating both signals yields to the same result: lenght of day.
I could go on buy why argue with a chatbot...
This is why I didn't even read his garbage.
Both of you guy's are fool's, yes i did think of something that is better than 100 years of scientific research that was based on the wrong ideas, and sally dont lie you didnt read it because you don't understand.
 

Orange's Greenhouse

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Both of you guy's are fool's, yes i did think of something that is better than 100 years of scientific research that was based on the wrong ideas, and sally dont lie you didnt read it because you don't understand.
Cool, can you poke me when you won a noble prize/became a billionaire/cured cancer (or all 3 at the same time). While you're waiting for your accolades I recommend you read the following article. It's a good 20 years old and excellently makes the point why your thought experiment is irrelevant: biology is unimaginably complex. It doesn't follow logic.

Lazebnik Y.
Can a biologist fix a radio?--Or, what I learned while studying apoptosis.
Cancer Cell. 2002 Sep;2(3):179-82. doi: 10.1016/s1535-6108(02)00133-2. PMID: 12242150.
 

Drippy Sally

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Both of you guy's are fool's, yes i did think of something that is better than 100 years of scientific research that was based on the wrong ideas, and sally dont lie you didnt read it because you don't understand.
Not sure why you would pick a fight with me as I have a degree in Biology, Mathematics, Chemistry, Physics, and Chemical Engineering. As indicated in previous posts you are not adding anything and your understanding is layman/rural. I suggest you learn how to write without inflaming half your audience before they even start reading. For the most part you have a child's vocabulary, lack social skills, and are a crappy person to even try to communicate with let alone to debate. Have fun with yourself and don't bother responding as I have added you to my ignore list for being a disrespectful person.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Not sure why you would pick a fight with me as I have a degree in Biology, Mathematics, Chemistry, Physics, and Chemical Engineering. As indicated in previous posts you are not adding anything and your understanding is layman/rural. I suggest you learn how to write without inflaming half your audience before they even start reading. For the most part you have a child's vocabulary, lack social skills, and are a crappy person to even try to communicate with let alone to debate. Have fun with yourself and don't bother responding as I have added you to my ignore list for being a disrespectful person.
It seems like those degrees are about as good as toilet paper if you have nothing intelligent to add to conversation or can consider my ideas, the fact that you have all these degrees and wont even read my information further supports why i have my position on current science being close minded and structured in a way it keeps the minds of the people in that institution very rigid.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Not sure why you would pick a fight with me as I have a degree in Biology, Mathematics, Chemistry, Physics, and Chemical Engineering. As indicated in previous posts you are not adding anything and your understanding is layman/rural. I suggest you learn how to write without inflaming half your audience before they even start reading. For the most part you have a child's vocabulary, lack social skills, and are a crappy person to even try to communicate with let alone to debate. Have fun with yourself and don't bother responding as I have added you to my ignore list for being a disrespectful person.
Ps i looked at your grows try to grow a plant without burning its leaf tips...i have no degrees and can grow a plant without nute burns. notice my carangola f1 plantlings no leaf burn
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Verdant Whisperer

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Degrees are keys my farther told me, but to me they are like karate belts, you can have a black belt and know all the katas perfectly, and pass all the test, but on the street you can't defend youself versus a real threat. I have had a blue belt in ju jit su for over 10 years because i have trained on and off and most of the time train without gi's and don't attend to formal training in MMA fights I have beat many Black Belts of Different Disclines, My sensi told me belts are good for two things, holding your pants up and using to choke people. You can have 20 black belts but if your not a real fighter and have the killer instincts and you get with a real animal they will devour that black belt without asking for his credentials. same thing if i do the training put in the work to learn about plants and made an AER Model, it doesnt matter what color my belt is, i have the hours and understanding of my practice. It doesnt matter if my style isnt traditional martial arts or growing science, i put in the time to craft and grow that into my own style, like every fighter learns all the moves but they use the moves which work best for them and all have their own unique mini-style within that style. If I was put in a theoretical ring with some of the best plant physiologist and it came down to logic, not rememberering information and understanding how what why and when and for what reason a plant does something i will win, because i learned from the outside looking in, instead of science which focused on the inside looking out. trying to isolate everything, where i am trying to connect ideas and let them isolate themselves and fill in gaps in the puzzle that my mind bulds when it learns new information.
 

stunkfrunk

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Thankyou for sharing your research and starting a conversation. I’m not surprised to read intellectual ego’s going into complete disrespect of your findings. I would rather read a critical scientific response with factual evidence rather than childish tantrums and abrasive words towards your intelligence.
 
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