The True Economic Horror of USA

[mexcurandero420]

Fear mongering or todays reality

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2013/09/08/left-with-nothing/

Keep on growing

 

[siftedunity]

LMAOF take a look to your own UK.In some parts sharia law is in practice.click

For patients no acces for mmj.

Keep on growing

lol yeah that's going on everywhere here isn't it!?

tbh that's the first ive ever seen it.

 

[siftedunity]

un?
ipcc?
even they, after being proven wrong, must bow to the truth.

i suggest everyone cherrypicks evidence supporting their views. care to show yours?

but that is the point...

we believe what evidence we're provided (from 'them') without question, until one day the lies are revealed for what they are.

now since Dr. has raised your hackles, why don't you prove him wrong?

just do it.

just prove him wrong.

the truth is out there, you claim to know it. share here that knowlege...

im quite interested in ''them'' and what your interpretation is. who is ''them'' and why would anyone think they have all the answers because of what they read online??

whether you believe popular media or otherwise the sources are rarely reliable or trustworthy. you cant go around telling everyone how the world works when you have access to the same info as everyone else. what you accept or believe is most likey also not true.

 

[Ready4]

What a bunch of stoned nonsense, some of y'all did not need to smoke the whole thing lol
Whole lot of ignorance that made laugh so hard it hurt !
The comments on the housing crisis were real special...... Don't believe all that total BS that everybody was at fault in the real estate, appraisal, mortgage, etc. Don't blame the greed
of the banks... because almost NONE of the bad could have been done without the two largest criminal cartels in America - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Most of the bad loans could not have been done if Fannie and Freddie did not allow them to. The ultimate greed of the Secondary Mortgage market, owned as a quasi-govt monster, but receiving very private very enormous profits ( most years outside the eventual crisis.)

If you are down on your luck, I feel for you. But sitting around in fear of everything is foolish. Get out there and start your own business, quit being a wage slave subject to the whims & weaknesses of a company. It will not be easy. But nothing worth having is !

 

[dddaver]

I find it really interesting, and a little disturbing actually, that someone who doesn't live in the US, doesn't live in our economy, has no day-to-day experience living here, lives in a socialist system (WAY different), yet comes into this thread and comments on our economy as if he knows something the people who live here in the US don't.

THAT is just part of this brave new world apparently. People with no dog in the fight can and do make comments from the peanut gallery all the time.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Fear mongering or todays reality

it looks like it has been reality for longer than just today .........


cut and pasted from the article you posted >>>> "The Washington Post spent 10 months examining the District’s tax lien program, which has been used by the city to recover unpaid property taxes for more than 100 years."

definitely a shitty situation either way

 

[trichrider]

im quite interested in ''them'' and what your interpretation is. who is ''them'' and why would anyone think they have all the answers because of what they read online??

whether you believe popular media or otherwise the sources are rarely reliable or trustworthy. you cant go around telling everyone how the world works when you have access to the same info as everyone else. what you accept or believe is most likey also not true.

i think you got it.
the media, and who they pander to.
...and everything is online, even the nonsense.
one must use discretion choosing what to believe...especially when there is so much malarky presented as fact.
an obfuscated reality is what we are given. we must discover for ourselves through inquiry the validity of the situation.
i see peeps flogging the Dr. for their unsubstatiated views.
throw up your own evidence to counter...that's all.
...and good luck.

shall we start with the IRS and FED? those 2 gov't agencies that aren't? but are???
...or should we discuss racism in the miss amerika contest? or the new addition to the royal family?

and honestly i didn't think i was telling all how the world works.

good day.

 

[DrFever]

I believe most Americans would be stunned to learn the details of how these secret court opinions have interpreted…the Patriot Act. As we see it, there is now a significant gap between what most Americans think the law allows and what the government secretly claims the law allows. This is a problem, because it is impossible to have an informed public debate about what the law should say when the public doesn’t know what its government thinks the law says

 

[DrFever]

On August 8, 2013, the New York Times reported that the NSA secretly collects virtually all international email and text communications which cross the US borders in or out. As the ACLU says, “the NSA thinks it’s okay to intercept and then read Americans’ emails, so long as it does so really quickly. But that is not how the Fourth Amendment works…the invasion of Americans’ privacy is real and immediate.”

We sit here and think Everything is alright when USA is fighting against terrorism one thing i find really funny is hoe many terrorist camps are the in usa as we speak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjML6FN8yjo

 

[DrFever]

The home land calls USA a battle field

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKiWFo_cya0

 

[trichrider]

the muslims won't need jihad. no need.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/6-3X5hIFXYU

 

[DrFever]

Also you ever wonder why usa went after kadaffi ????? pretty simple why because he was presentling the denar he was going to Crush the USA currency going back to GOLD so that meant USA you want oil you better have GOLD but india , china , russia have converted to gold way it should be
Yup most of america's fighting is because USA is fighting to keep there currency at world currency if all countries and they will go back to the Gold standard it will be the END of USA as you know it Don't forget Kadaffi was USa's alley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2J4jHmEL8

 

[DrFever]

For all the people out of the loop Yea there is nothing going on in good ole usa

With five days until a possible US government shutdown, lawmakers were to mull options Thursday for keeping agencies open while potentially postponing a battle over President Barack Obama's health care law.

The Senate expected to approve a stopgap funding bill soon that strips out a provision defunding the controversial health law, while House Republicans were to confer early Thursday over possible plans to shift the health care fight to mid-October, when lawmakers will need to raise the debt ceiling.

Congress is deeply fractured over how to spend within the government's means, and they have yet to come to terms over a budget that funds federal operations beyond next Monday, the final day of the current fiscal year.

After the Senate moved forward Wednesday on the temporary spending bill, the chamber's top Democrat Harry Reid stripped it of the health care provision, insisting that nothing that defunds so-called "Obamacare" will pass the Senate, as it did in the House.

Republican and Democratic leaders agreed to compress the procedural time before the next Senate vote, meaning the chamber could pass its legislation on Saturday, leaving the lower house barely 48 hours to pass the amended bill.

Any changes to the bill by House Speaker John Boehner would require the reworked version to go back to the Senate for approval, almost certainly leading to a government shutdown.

"I would hope we can expedite this," Reid said. "We have a lot to do and I hope we can get there as quickly as we can."

If no deal is reached, many government agencies would shut down from Tuesday, and hundreds of thousands of federal workers would be ordered to stay home with no pay.

Meanwhile, a congressional source said House Republicans were considering reworking their budget measure to include a one-year delay of Obamacare's so-called individual mandate, which requires nearly all Americans to have insurance by January 2014 or pay a fine.

"It is an option that some people like," a Republican aide told AFP. Other Republicans, however, have spoken of the potential for passing a clean stopgap budget and shifting the Obamacare fight to the debt ceiling, where they feel they might have more leverage.

Boehner's leadership team was expected to propose that plan to the caucus Thursday, according to the Washington Post.

With the attention earlier this week on the Senate, conservative Senator Ted Cruz took to the floor Tuesday for an extraordinary, 21-hour speech railing against Obamacare as "the biggest job killer in this country."

Many Republicans expressed opposition to Cruz's delay strategy, warning it could leave insufficient time for the House to consider the Senate measure.

They said Republicans would be blamed for a shutdown debacle, and it would hurt the party's standing with voters.

White House spokesman Jay Carney weighed in, saying "it would be irresponsible to not fund the essential functions of the government out of ideological pique."

As lawmakers squabble over the way forward, the need to raise the US debt ceiling was rapidly approaching.

Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew warned that the government will reach its statutory debt cap by October 17, and that failure to raise it would lead to "catastrophic" default.

"If we have insufficient cash on hand, it would be impossible for the United States of America to meet all of its obligations for the first time in our history," Lew said in a letter to Boehner.

Lew urged Congress to "act immediately" to increase the borrowing limit, which has been locked at $16.7 trillion since May.

Some Republicans have suggested that the House pass a measure this week that raises the debt ceiling but delays elements of the health law.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi is squarely opposed to that approach, and she crafted a letter to Obama signed by 185 members of her caucus saying they "will support a clean extension of the debt ceiling when the House takes up this issue."

And Carney reiterated Obama's position that raising the debt ceiling "is not a subject of negotiation."

During a bruising 2011 budget battle, the matter of raising the debt ceiling was wrapped into the spending fight, and Lew reminded lawmakers that the 2011 impasse "caused significant harm to the economy."

That fight was resolved just hours before Treasury could have defaulted, but nevertheless led to a historic downgrade of the US credit rating, the first time the United States has ever lost its AAA status with Standard & Poor's.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

 

[trichrider]

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[Eighths-n-Aces]

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are you missing something? is this the first time you have seen the government go broke? was there war in the streets any of the last 5 times? do you watch reruns and expect a different ending?

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feel free to jump into the fear pool but don't expect me not to laugh about it

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I believe most Americans would be stunned to learn the details of how these secret court opinions have interpreted…the Patriot Act. As we see it, there is now a significant gap between what most Americans think the law allows and what the government secretly claims the law allows. This is a problem, because it is impossible to have an informed public debate about what the law should say when the public doesn’t know what its government thinks the law says

they just make up rules on the fly like double secret probation.

 

[siftedunity]

I find it really interesting, and a little disturbing actually, that someone who doesn't live in the US, doesn't live in our economy, has no day-to-day experience living here, lives in a socialist system (WAY different), yet comes into this thread and comments on our economy as if he knows something the people who live here in the US don't.

THAT is just part of this brave new world apparently. People with no dog in the fight can and do make comments from the peanut gallery all the time.

Yawn..
Maybe if you took some interest in world news you would know that we also have the same economics crisis here as you guys.

 

[Neekz]

Yawn..
Maybe if you took some interest in world news you would know that we also have the same economics crisis here as you guys.

And what are you guy's doing about it ? Truth is, most peoples brains would explode if you took away everything chinese, or made em pay for the U.S. counter-part. Greed and tight-assedness will always dictate our world.

 

[oldhaole]

Too funny.

Almost all the things said here about China now were said about an emerging Japan 25 years ago. How did that work out?

Newsflash....America has the printing presses. While inflation eats away at out purchasing power, think of what it does to the money we owe....to China. We are the reserve currency....we can and do hide debt. As long as we control the money supply....we are driving the bus.

China is not the powerhouse you think it is. They are a country of 300 million haves and 3 billion have nots. Those have nots are kept pacified with a continues improvement in their standard of living. They project soft power. Should they decide to project hard power they would get their ass handed to them, the improvement would stop and the revolt would begin.

Their one child policy means they can't affort to take mass casualties....which is the way they fight. When China attacked Vietnam....China lost. Every man killed leaves two parents behind to fend for themselves. Enough casualties and the countryside rebels. Also as the population ages they will follow the same path as Japan.

Already low skill jobs are leaving China. As their standard of living improves, wages increase and like what happened in the US the jobs leave to the cheapest country....a race to the bottom continues. China is no longer the bottom.

Militairly any ship that leaves China's ports are bottled up in the South China Sea and the Sea of Japan. This water is less than 300 ft deep. Its more than 500 miles to deeper water. You can't hide a submarine in such shallow water. Any ship has to deal with American bases sitting in Japan, and Okanawa, and Guam, and Hawaii....all of which can't be sunk. The entire Chineese homefleet can easily be bottled up and destroyed in port with a bunch of old style sea mines. If China was so powerful as everyone thinks why haven't they retaken Taiwan? It's only been a stated goal of theirs since 1949.

China projects soft power. They do it well. But they can't back that soft power with hard power Should they try, America and it's allies would quickly slap them silly, then the country would fall apart.

China copies, America discovers. As long as that holds true we will always be one step ahead.

And who came up with that list of China's allies?

That's a joke.

Russia is their ally? Russia is scared shitless of China. What percentage of the Russian Army is in the far east?
The rest are a bunch of militarily weak countries bought off by China....not much of a threat there.
The only one that would give us trouble is North Korea....and that's because they are crazy.