The True Economic Horror of USA

[DrFever]

^ no they couldnt. have you been to america? have you talked to Americans? do you know our mentality? Do you know the US government mentality. If China ever tried to take a U.S. territory there would be a war. It may not even be government initiated, but by god there would be a war. You would see me shooting Chinese people in the face for sure, and I am the least crazy of southerners.

Yo Hash want to know something funny what does usa fight for today
Is it Terrorism ????? then please oh please explain how usa is allowing this 35 terror groups on US SOIL


WASHINGTON – A radical jihadist group responsible for nearly 50 attacks on American soil is operating 35 terrorist training camps across the nation, but the U.S. government refuses to include the organization on the State Department’s list of foreign terrorists.


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Jamaat ul-Fuqra, known in the U.S. as “Muslims of America,” has purchased or leased hundreds of acres of property – from New York to California – in which the leader, Sheikh Mubarak Gilani, boasts of conducting “the most advanced training courses in Islamic military warfare.”

In a recruitment video captured from Gilani’s “Soldiers of Allah,” he states in English: “We are fighting to destroy the enemy. We are dealing with evil at its roots and its roots are America.”

Though Gilani and his organization is suspected of committing assassinations and firebombings inside the U.S., and is also suspected of the beheading murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, the terrorist camps spread through the country continue to expand in numbers and population.

A documentary called “Homegrown Jihad: Terrorist Training Camps Around the U.S.” provides compelling evidence of how “Muslims of America” operates with impunity inside the U.S. In the video, producers visited some camps, attempted to visit others and interviewed neighbors and local police officials. It also include excerpts of the “Muslims of America” recruitment video.

Get “Homegrown Jihad: Terrorist Training Camps Around the U.S.” and share it with your neighbors, your local police officials and your representatives in Congress.

The recruitment video shows American converts to Islam being instructed in the operation of AK-47 rifles, rocket launchers and machine guns and C4 explosives. It provides instruction in how to kidnap Americans, kill them and how to conduct sabotage and subversive operations.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra’s attacks on American soil range from bombings to murder to plots to blow up U.S. landmarks. A 2006 Department of Justice report states Jamaat ul-Fuqra “has more than 35 suspected communes and more than 3,000 members spread across the United States, all in support of one goal: the purification of Islam through violence.” In 2005, the Department of Homeland Security predicted the group would continue to carry out attacks in the U.S.

“Act like you are his friend. Then kill him,” says Gilani in the recruitment video, explaining how to handle American “infidels.”

Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was attempting to interview Jamaat ul-Fuqra’s leader, Gilani, in 2002 when he was kidnapped and later beheaded. One year later, Iyman Faris, member of both Jamaat ul-Fuqra and al-Qaida, pleaded guilty in federal court to a plot to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge.

Gilani was at one time in Pakistani custody for the abduction of Pearl. Intelligence sources also suggest a link between Jamaat ul Fuqra and Richard Reid, the infamous “shoe bomber” who attempted to ignite explosives aboard a Paris-to-Miami passenger flight Dec. 22, 2001.

“What we are witnessing here is kind of a brand-new form of terrorism,” says FBI Special Agent Jody Weis in the documentary. “These home-grown terrorists can prove to be as dangerous as any known group, if not more so,”

As WND reported, a covert visit to a Jamaat ul-Fuqra encampment in upstate New York by the Northeast Intelligence Network found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities.

 

[DrFever]

Our government engages in a practice politely called "deficit spending". Other terms which would aptly describe the practice include "counterfeiting" and "check kiting", but it all comes down to the same thing; spending money one does not actually have.

This brings us to the issue of collateral. We've borrowed so much money the lenders are getting nervous. Back during the Johnson administration Charles DeGaulle demanded the United States collateralize the loans owed to France in gold and started carting out the bullion from the treasury. This caused several other nations to demand the same and President Nixon had to slam the gold window closed or the treasury would have been emptied, since the United States was even then in debt for more money than the treasury could cover in gold.

But Nixon had to collateralize that debt somehow, and he hit upon the plan of quietly setting aside huge tracts of American land with their mineral rights in reserve to cover the outstanding debts. But since the American people were already angered over the war in Vietnam, Nixon couldn't very well admit that he was apportioning off chunks of the United States to the holders of foreign debt. So, Nixon invented the Environmental Protection Agency and passed draconian environmental laws which served to grab land with vast natural resources away from the owners and lock it away, and even more, prove to the holders of the foreign debt that US citizens were not drilling. mining, or otherwise developing those resources. From that day to this, as the government sinks deeper into debt, the government grabs more and more land, declares it a wilderness or "roadless area" or "heritage river" or "wetlands" or any one of over a dozen other such obfuscated labels, but in the end the result is the same. We The People may not use the land, in many cases are not even allowed to enter the land.

This is not about conservation, it is about collateral. YOUR land is being stolen by the government and used to secure loans the government really had no business taking out in the first place. Given that the government cannot get out of debt, and is collateralizing more and more land to avoid foreclosure, the day is not long off when the people of the United States will one day wake up and discover they are no longer citizens, but tenants.

 

[DrFever]

In the end, there is no such thing as a free lunch. You cannot make money grow in value by shaking it back and forth from one bank to another. You cannot prosper a nation by doing each other's laundry, or filling out their government mandated and greatly obfuscated paperwork, or flinging stock certificates around which may have as little real worth as Federal Reserve Notes. To make money, to show a profit, you must make products that somebody else wants to buy, and sadly, that is a capability the United States has allowed to slip away in great measure. The "service economy" was political propaganda to make the public believe that the decline of our manufacturing ability was a good thing.

Our nation is broke, bankrupt, and having sold much of its machinery and technology (or given it away to political donors), is unable to easily return to those endeavors which once made our nation great. Our infrastructure is in decay (the percentage of roads in the US with major damage doubled last year alone), our public schools unable to produce a workforce able to function in a high-tech manufacturing environment, and those managers end engineers with manufacturing experience have in great part been lured away to other nations. The severity of our total government debt has reached a point where the promise that the taxpayers can be made to cover any foreign investment loss rings hollow, because we can no longer pay the debts our government has now.

Our nation is in trouble. We don't make many of the products we used to make. Consequently we don't have the products to sell that we used to. We don't even make most of the products we need ourselves (like that computer you're staring at this very moment). Result: we have a massive trade imbalance. Cash is flowing out of the nation, and it's not coming back in anywhere near as fast. There's no way to spin it; that is a major problem. Our nation is becoming poorer, it is hopelessly in debt, and all the artificial escalation of stock prices cannot conceal that.

And as the artificially pumped up stock market continues to decline, the true scale of the economic horror which is the product of decades of government corruption, will become apparent to all.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

This is all scare mongering. At the end of the day we went through a long time without caring about the economy. Not saying its not important but its not the end of the world

^

as long as there is people with necessities there will be a form of trade to obtain them. the trick is adapting to the adaption methods. Most people just do it. Therefore a new economic system is always created in the destruction of another. There is no just ceasing of all trade.

Also the usa has nukes and snipers pointed at Russia and china's important people right now. guarengoddamntee it. Look at our military industrial complex. It is 7 times larger than all our allies combined. We borrowed their money and built weapons so good, and armies so good that we never have to pay back our debt. We will just kill them instead. There are countries that pay the american military protection money so the U.S. marines and navy will police the their country.

If any country comes after us, will first shut down there infrastructures with hackers. Go research what Edward Snowden leaked and you will see how they do that.

next they will use daisy cutters to physically destroy them.

Then they send in marines to clean up the mess and left overs. Then they send in the army to occupy.

U.S. Military makes the Spartans look like Amateurs.

 

[DrFever]

^

as long as there is people with necessities there will be a form of trade to obtain them. the trick is adapting to the adaption methods. Most people just do it. Therefore a new economic system is always created in the destruction of another. There is no just ceasing of all trade.

Also the usa has nukes and snipers pointed at Russia and china's important people right now. guarengoddamntee it. Look at our military industrial complex. It is 7 times larger than all our allies combined. We borrowed their money and built weapons so good, and armies so good that we never have to pay back our debt. We will just kill them instead. There are countries that pay the american military protection money so the U.S. marines and navy will police the their country.

If any country comes after us, will first shut down there infrastructures with hackers. Go research what Edward Snowden leaked and you will see how they do that.

next they will use daisy cutters to physically destroy them.

Then they send in marines to clean up the mess and left overs. Then they send in the army to occupy.

U.S. Military makes the Spartans look like Amateurs.

Yea we seen time in an time out hey ????? Vietnam war you got chased out with farmers with pitch forks , North korea pretty much the same woudn;t you think there Hash ??? being totally honest USA struggles fighting 3rd world countries at best just have to really analyze there last 2 wars they LOST big time

Hash if Germany took it to USA instead of Russia i bet you be speaking german today
you keep drinking your star bucks coffee and watching your reality Tv shows and keep thinking you got the best of everything cause Again media being controlled by government only tells you what they want you to here
Oh your mighty stealth fighter cant be shot down lol again a 3rd world country shot it down
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-10-26-serb-stealth_x.htm
oh can;t forget the shot down Drone over iran now can we
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/04/iran-shoots-down-us-drone
you know USA wanted to start something with Pakistan couple of years back or so i wonder how come they never did go in hahahaha

China has warned the US military to cease its hostilities toward Pakistan. The Chinese government has sworn to defend Pakistan in the event of an attack.

The Chinese military was placed on alert ballistic nuclear missiles. readiness China says that Pakistan has given the US military 15 days to get out of their country. if i recall usa was out in less then a week Oh and by the way last time something like this happened was Cuban missile crsis
But lets look at something else here owe your mighty F22 Raptor Failure are they even flying yet ????

End result there buddy most of your allies ( Nato ) are also getting tired of your war starting cause remember Britain, france Germany always has to come in and clean up your mess sure USA has got the name being trigger happy i wonder where that came from huh
yea pick a fight with Syria especially when Russia and china side with them Again USA WILL STAND DOWN run tail tucked cause when ever china speaks up or russia usa tends to get little scared

 

[SooperSmurph]

Vietnam was a joke because we didn't listen to the fella who wanted to destroy half of asia with A-bombs, if Japan taught us anything, it's that radioactive people are meek and easy to conquer, contrary to popular opinion and science fiction.

Of course, atomic weapons are too powerful and risky these days, which is why they have developed countless biological and chemical agents which can penetrate anything short of full isolation suits, when things finally get ugly, and they haven't gotten anywhere near ugly in a long time, we'll see the army killing people as efficiently as the government oppresses them.

 

[DrFever]

Vietnam was a joke because we didn't listen to the fella who wanted to destroy half of asia with A-bombs, if Japan taught us anything, it's that radioactive people are meek and easy to conquer, contrary to popular opinion and science fiction.

Of course, atomic weapons are too powerful and risky these days, which is why they have developed countless biological and chemical agents which can penetrate anything short of full isolation suits, when things finally get ugly, and they haven't gotten anywhere near ugly in a long time, we'll see the army killing people as efficiently as the government oppresses them.

Well i sit here thinking How USA should be charged and seriously handed a harsh penalty USA goes around imposing embargo;s etc to countries of interest reasons cause they tell USA to get lost or what ever for instance this Syria conflict isn;t ironic when you get deep into it how USA HAS LIED through out most wars are started by states thru lies 911 one big fcking lie and the citizens ate it up here watch this Vid might wake up some of yea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk

 

[DrFever]

Most Americans assume that the U.S. military is so vastly superior to everyone else that no other nation would ever dream of fighting a full-scale war against us. Unfortunately, that assumption is dead wrong. In recent years, the once mammoth technological gap between the U.S. military and the Chinese military has been closing at a frightening pace. China has been accomplishing this by brazenly stealing our technology and hacking into our computer systems. The Pentagon and the Obama administration know all about this, but they don’t do anything about it. Perhaps the fact that China owns about a trillion dollars of our national debt has something to do with that.
In any event, today China has the largest military in the world and the second largest military budget in the world. They have stolen plans for our most advanced jets, helicopters, ships and missile systems. It is estimated that stealing our technology has saved China about 25 years of research and development. In addition, China is rapidly developing a new generation of strategic weapons that could potentially enable it to actually win a future war against the United States. At one time such a notion would have been unthinkable, but as you will see below, the next war with China could go very badly for the United States.
The Washington Post is reporting on a confidential report that was prepared for the Pentagon, and what this report says about the extent of Chinese cyber espionage is absolutely startling. Will China know ALL of our secrets at some point? The following is a brief excerpt from the Washington Post articleabout the theft of our military technology by China. It turns out that Chinese hackers have gotten their hands on plans for almost all of the new cutting edge weapons systems that we have been developing…
Some of the weapons form the backbone of the Pentagon’s regional missile defense for Asia, Europe and the Persian Gulf. The designs included those for the advanced Patriot missile system, known as PAC-3; an Army system for shooting down ballistic missiles, known as the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD; and the Navy’s Aegis ballistic-missile defense system.
Also identified in the report are vital combat aircraft and ships, including the F/A-18 fighter jet, the V-22 Osprey, the Black Hawk helicopter and the Navy’s new Littoral Combat Ship, which is designed to patrol waters close to shore.
Also on the list is the most expensive weapons system ever built — the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which is on track to cost about $1.4 trillion.
One military expert that the Washington Post showed the report to was absolutely stunned…
“That’s staggering,” said Mark Stokes, executive director of the Project 2049 Institute, a think tank that focuses on Asia security issues. “These are all very critical weapons systems, critical to our national security. When I hear this in totality, it’s breathtaking.”
The experts said the cybertheft creates three major problems. First, access to advanced U.S. designs gives China an immediate operational edge that could be exploited in a conflict. Second, it accelerates China’s acquisition of advanced military technology and saves billions in development costs. And third, the U.S. designs can be used to benefit China’s own defense industry. There are long-standing suspicions that China’s theft of designs for the F-35 fighter allowed Beijing to develop its version much faster.
But it isn’t just hackers that the U.S. military needs to be concerned about.
The truth is that the Chinese are stealing secrets from us any way that they can.
For example, the Chinese use attractive young women to seduce our defense contractors. In fact, as the Washington Times recently reported, one 59-year-old American man was recently charged with passing very sensitive secrets to a 27-year-old Chinese “honeypot” that he was seeing…
A U.S. defense contractor who works in intelligence at the military’s Pacific Command in Hawaii has been charged with passing classified national security information to a 27-year-old Chinese woman he was dating.
Benjamin Pierce Bishop, 59, is accused of sending the woman an email in May with information on Pacom’s war plans, nuclear weapons and U.S. relations with international partners, according to the complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Honolulu and unsealed Monday.
The complaint goes on to allege that Mr. Bishop told the woman over the telephone in September about the deployment of U.S. nuclear weapons and about the ability of the U.S. to detect other nations’ short- and medium-range ballistic missiles.
Another way that China is gaining a strategic advantage over the U.S. is by getting the U.S. military to become increasingly dependent upon them. According to Forbes, now the U.S. military is even leasing a Chinese satellite for communications purposes…
American dependence on China grows by the day. The latestnews is that the United States has been reduced to leasing a Chinese satellite to handle communications with U.S. military bases in Africa. Surprising, isn’t it? The nation that launched the world’s first communications satellite (I remember it well – it was called Telstar) has so lost its manufacturing mojo that it has to rely on its most formidable military adversary to provide the hardware for some of its most sensitive communications. This at a time when underlying unemployment rates among U.S. manufacturing workers remain at near-depression levels.
Isn’t that crazy?
And a recent Senate report discovered that many of our most advanced weapons systems are absolutely riddled with counterfeit Chinese parts…
A recent Senate report, titled Inquiry Into Counterfeit Electronic Parts In The Department Of Defense Supply Chain, “uncovered overwhelming evidence of large numbers of counterfeit parts making their way into critical defense systems.”
The investigation found 1,800 cases of counterfeit electronic parts involving over one million suspect parts in 2009-10 alone, thereby exposing “a defense supply chain that relies on hundreds of unveiled independent distributors to supply electronic parts for some of our most sensitive systems.”
The report concluded, among other things, that China is the “dominant source” of counterfeit products that enter the DoD supply chain, that the Chinese government does little to stop it and that the DoD doesn’t know the “scope and impact” of these parts on critical defense systems.
Who in the world would be stupid enough to allow one of their greatest strategic enemies to supply large numbers of parts for key weapons systems?
Apparently we are that stupid.
Things are particularly bad when it comes to semiconductors…
Senator John McCain commented: “We can’t tolerate the risk of a ballistic missile interceptor failing to hit its target, a helicopter pilot unable to fire his missiles, or any other mission failure because of a counterfeit part.” Calling the issue “a ticking time bomb,” Brian Toohey, president of the Semiconductor Industry Association, commented: “The catastrophic failure risk inherently found in counterfeit semiconductors places our citizens and military personnel in unreasonable peril.”
It would be bad enough if we just had to worry about counterfeit parts failing. But what if China has a way to shut some of those parts down in the event of a conflict? What if some of those parts contain “Trojan Horse” computer chips or malware?
That may sound crazy, but unfortunately Trojan Horse chips can be extremely difficult to detect. The following is from a recent Forbes article…
As the Defense Science Board pointed out, Trojan Horse circuitry is almost impossible to detect even with the most rigorous analysis. This is particularly so if a saboteur can accomplish matching subversions in both software and relevant hardware.
And as I mentioned above, China is rapidly developing a vast array of new strategic weapons which may enable it to actually win the next war with the United States.
For example, China has been developing a new generation of inter-continental and submarine-launched nuclear missiles.
The submarine-launched missiles are of particular concern…
The Ju Lang-2 intercontinental missile is the second generation of Chinese submarine-launched ballistic missiles.
It’s a closely held secret, and details are sketchy. If it lives up to what public military intelligence says it is, it’s a huge get for China, especially with their new sub fleet.
The missile is believed to have a range of 8,000 km, and can carry conventional or nuclear warheads.
Do you remember a few years ago when a Chinese sub fired a missile from just off the west coast of the United States?
We didn’t know that the sub was there. If that missile had been fired at Los Angeles it would have been destroyed long before we could have ever responded.
And don’t think that a first strike by either China or Russia is inconceivable. As I have written about previously, the U.S. strategic nuclear arsenal has already been reduced by about 95 percent, and Obama seems absolutely determined to whittle it down even more. In fact, there has been talk that the Obama administration ultimately wants to reduce our arsenal down to just 300 warheads. If Russia or China knows exactly where those warheads are, it would be very easy to take them out in less than 10 minutes with a submarine-based first strike.
And China has also reportedly been developing very sophisticated EMP weapons. The following is from a WND report…
In 2011, it was first revealed that China was developing EMP weapons to be used against U.S. aircraft carriers in any future conflict, especially over Taiwan, according to a 2005 National Ground Intelligence Center study.
That center study said the Chinese were developing a family, or “assassin’s mace” of EMP and high-powered microwave, or HPM, weapons to be used by a technologically inferior force such as China’s, against U.S. military forces.
The once secret but now declassified study pointed out that the Chinese could detonate an EMP weapon some 30 to 40 kilometers over Taiwan or – by inference – a U.S. carrier strike group – and destroy the electronics capability on which U.S. network-centric strategy depends.
But an EMP weapon does not have to be a high-altitude weapon that affects a large area. Smaller scale EMP weapons could take out a wave of fighter jets or a carrier fleet.
In a future conflict with China, we could see U.S. planes falling out of the sky or great naval vessels sitting dead in the water after being hit with EMP blasts.
But isn’t China our friend?
That is what most Americans and most American politicians seem to believe. They seem to think that China is our “buddy” and “trading partner” and that we will never have a military conflict with China.
But that is NOT how the Chinese see things.
The Chinese regard the United States as their greatest strategic threat and as an enemy that needs to be vanquished.
That is why they are constantly spying on us, hacking into our computers and stealing our technology.
That is why they are feverishly building up their military and preparing for a future war with America.
So what do you think?
Do you believe that war with China is in our future?
If so, do you think that we will win?

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

the russians are coming the russians are co............ wait .......... the chinese are coming the chinese are coming !!!!!


it does not make economic sense for any of the big kids to fuck around with the other big kids (at least directly).

why would the chinese attack something they own stock in? some would say they own a majority share.

i know americans need something to fear and all, but i would say we have thing MUCH closer to home that we should be scared of

 

[DrFever]

What i am tryin to relate here is how most americans think there military is far Superior then anyone else s and that is far from the truth do you remember few yeas back off the coast of USA ?? A china sub released a missile hell if it was aimed at LA usa couldn;t do nothing to stop so much for the American grid huh ???

The analysis states that China has “the largest conventional submarine force in the world, totaling more than 60 boats” plus “a number of nuclear-powered fast-attack and ballistic missile subs.” Does that mean China has approximately 70 or more submarines? The total is unspecified, most likely because western analysts aren’t really sure how many submarines China has built. The report adds that many of China’s surface ships and submarines are armed with “supersonic sea-skimming anti-ship cruise missiles” (emphasis added.) This is a critically-important fact.

The supersonic cruise missiles are likely the “Russian-made “sizzler” supersonic cruise missiles about which I’ve written in a number of previous blogs. These missiles were developed to overwhelm the defenses of U.S. carrier task force and sink the American carriers. Supersonic (and perhaps maneuverable) cruise missiles are one of the most revolutionary naval weapons systems developed in recent years. To my knowledge, only America’s real and potential enemies have them, indicating that America’s traditional technological edge is fading steadily.

The second link below, from Wikipedia, relates that the USA has 61 submarines currently in service and four more under construction. However, the U.S. Navy has been retiring submarines faster than they are being built so the U.S. submarine fleet has been steadily declining in numbers. The third link is a report by the Heritage Foundation warning about the risks of a shrinking U.S. submarine fleet. The report was written years ago but its logic is even more forceful today in an environment where China now has more subs than the USA and is building even more at a rapid rate. The numerical advantage of the Chinese submarine fleet over the U.S. submarine fleet is likely to grow steadily in future years because China possesses vast currency surpluses and can afford to build a lot of new naval vessels. The U.S. government is saddled with mindless debts and bailout costs and can’t afford many new naval vessels. This fact should concern all Americans, but the chances that the establishment media will tell you this are slim and none.

Some would note (correctly) that the U.S. submarine fleet is highly-trained and experienced in blue-water operations and that Chinese submarines will take years to develop those same skills. I’d tend to agree with that analysis, but there is the very disconcerting reminder [fourth link] that in 2007, a Chinese attack submarine successfully penetrated the defensive screen of the USS Kitty Hawk in the Pacific Ocean and surfaced within easy “kill” range of the U.S. carrier. That indicates that (A) the Chinese submarine crews are far more skilled that previously thought, (B) that the U.S. Navy is way too overconfident, or (C) both options could be true. It is actually good the Chinese submarine surfaced so the U.S. Navy had the chance to experience a “wake up call” and tighten its obviously porous defensive screen around its carriers. The USS Kitty Hawk has since been decommissioned.

Ezekiel 38-39 warns that Russia, China, Iran and their allies will attack the USA, NATO and their allies in a global World War III at the very end of this age before Divine intervention occurs. All those Chinese subs will be used against the U.S. Navy and allied navies. Let’s hope the U.S. Navy develops defenses against those supersonic cruise missiles that will be coming at U.S. carriers and surface ships in volleys from those Chinese subs when that war begins. If we don’t have effective defenses for its vital carriers, the U.S. Navy will lose its major assets at the beginning of that war. I pray that doesn’t happen.

 

[mexcurandero420]

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Cyprus was just a test case.

Keep on growing

 

[watts]

dr fever you sure are obsessed with the USA

 

[DrFever]

dr fever you sure are obsessed with the USA

No i am not obsessed with USA i just think they should grow some balls pay there debts and get on like every other country in the world stay the fuck out of other countries businesses when i look at USA i makes me think of that guy on corner asking for any spare change YUP Exactly just like USA litterally begging china always for money but i am sure time will come when china will say sorry your denied

 

[wantaknow]

alex jones alarmest !haha,and when shit hits the floor nobody will ever know you said that ,but if you warn them and wake them up out of there stoned daydream ,they will always rember that ,because you may have save someone ,wake the hell up america !save your self !

 

[siftedunity]

money owed doesn't really matter if it came to any kind of world war, debt wouldn't really be an issue. your not gonna pay up to a country your at war with.
plus you keep speaking about the usa as a nation which would have to stand alone, im from the uk and I know we are pretty tight allies with the usa as well as the united nations as a whole.

so china vs usa, uk, Germany, france +rest of the united nations... whos gonna be the more powerful force?
plus how do you know they are hacking into the usa computers? you can only hack a system that's connected to the web. do you not think that this information would be stored on computers that are not networked? seems pretty simple to me.

finally how can you actually know this information you have found is legit? how can you be sure that the info you have researched, is not actually placed there to lead people away from the real truth?? I mean your information was easily found online- a little too easily I reckon!... the possibilities are endless if you use your imagination

on a serious note, sometimes it takes the collapse of a system for it to evolve into something better, like hash said there will always be trade of some kind even if there was any kind of collapse. it really isn't worth upsetting yourself over..

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Ezekiel 38-39 warns that Russia, China, Iran and their allies will attack the USA, NATO and their allies in a global World War III at the very end of this age before Divine intervention occurs.

and Fred Flintstone said "Yaba Daba Doo".

if doomsday is coming then i think we are all more than likely doomed right? so if you don't mind i'm not going to worry to much about things i can't control anyway.

........ and before any of you get your panties all in a twist because "i have my head in the sand" or "i refuse to see the truth" or "i'm whistling past the grave yard" i have a question. if the plane is about to hit the mountain does it help the passengers to scream and cry or would they be better off ordering a drink and smoking a bowl? it's not like anything they do will effect what is about to happen anyway right?

please give me 1 possible solution instead of 30 reasons to panic

 

[siftedunity]

^^^ great post..

tbh like you say theres no need to worry. and tbh I think scaremongering makes war more likely.
dr fever, why don't you spread some happy thoughts across the forums instead of panic and fear? spread good karma. that is what makes the world a better place to live in!

 

[trichrider]

scream over the truth.
that'll do it.

bring it Dr.

kids are irritated upon waking from their dreams.

 

[siftedunity]

haven't you got some David Icke wids to watch on youtube?

 

[trichrider]

huh?

can't resonate one hand clapping.

if there are two sides of an argument, would'nt one want to hear both sides?

return your unpunched zen card...