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The Search for Trip Weed

Maria Sanchez

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Greetings Tripsters,
The good news is that I am situated in the tropics in an area I like. I'm at about 5,000 feet altitude, just below cloud level. I mean less than 100 feet below the bottoms of thunderheads that drift by daily during the wet season. It is clear and intensely sunny nearly every morning for about 6 hours, then all hell breaks loose. I mean some SERIOUS lightning and heavy rain. The lightning is so frequent and intense, I had to research about it. Guess what? As prolific as it is here, I read that Thailand is like the number one or two most lightning struck country in the world. I'm taking that as a good omen, given my choice of genetics. LOL!
...Best Vibes,
ThaiBliss
This is where you are now?
Nice.
I'm at about 1,000 ft altitude, and often just below the cloud line, haha.
I've lived in Thailand before, but probably no where near where you are now.
Now I'm somewhere slightly further north in latitude.
Wish I had the Thai 'dry season' though, as we don't have one here.
 

ThaiBliss

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This is where you are now?
Nice.
Hi Maria,

Glad to see you following. I didn't post much or grow at all during the last few years. Now I'm posting a crazy amount, so you couldn't miss me.
:D
Just to be clear, I'm in the western hemisphere at about 10° from the equator. I'm glad to be here because I'm having a hard enough time learning Spanish. Speaking Thai would likely be too much for me, though I'd love be be around the SE Asian genetics and Northern Thai climate.

The indigenous cannabis strain here is Talamanca, probably Panama Red. Not one of my favorites from back in the day, too stupifying. I'm lazy enough naturally. If I stumble across it, I'll certainly try it and grab some seed.
 

ThaiBliss

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puttng a dead toad in your tea is pushing the limit in my opinion!
:LOL::ROFLMAO:
That's why I used that example. The fact is, almost anything can be used. Pulling local weeds and soaking them in a tank of water gives plants a lot of nutrients. Just about anything carbon based can be used. I grew indoor hydroponic for 20 years and never had any nutrient problems without using commercial hydroponic mixes. It was all organic.

I forgot to mention the compost tea I used outdoors. Best fertilizer ever. I regularly achieved 16 foot tall plants at 42° north.
 

ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

"Very high UV" today. The weather has been scaring me. It drizzled for about 15 minutes the other day, with very threatening dark clouds and thunder in the distance. Today it got back to being very hot and dry which I am grateful for. I'm likely to cut in a day or three. If it was going to rain tomorrow, I'd take it down today.

My plant is so close to looking done, barely any white pistils left. It has started smelling like tobacco. The stalks are even turning yellow. Except for some stunted white pistils, it looks and smells past it's peak, but I know that El Duck and other Aussies with experience with S.E. Asian genetics emphasize letting them get fully ripe. I'm just happy it looks like these genetics do get ripe outside here, at the best time of year. I tried indoors and in a greenhouse up north, and failed in both attempts.
:giggle:
 

ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

It's time. Suddenly, it just feels right. I don't smell fresh resins anymore. The plant as a whole looks nearly dead. Stalks are getting floppy. Yes, I can find fresh pistils on some of the buds, but all the buds look nearly or fully played out. The resins don't really sparkle like they used to. Almost all of the resin glands are cloudy, and very few are clear. That resin change happened very quickly and relatively uniformly, in contrast to all the other agonizingly slowly changing signs. Ripe calxyes with seed are rapidly turning from a gorgeous golden to brown. I need those seeds. I don't want them dropping outside. I probably should have harvested the first day I noticed it stopped smelling like mint and started smelling like tobacco. The lack of fresh smelling resin is what is pushing me to harvesting the most. It does still smell minty, but only when buds are physically touched.

12 hours 9 minutes from sunrise to sunset today. I think I'll cut it tomorrow morning. I didn't think I'd get this far given the horrible start, and from the never ending flowing indoors continuing even after nine months. The pungent aroma disapeared after seven months during that run. I don't want to repeat that mistake.

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This bud is the freshest looking one. It has the most fresh pistils. It's a lower bud that gets the most shade. If all the buds looked like this, I'd wait longer.

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ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

I'm trimming bud from plant#2. The tobacco like smell has morphed into a spicy wierd almost rubbery smell. I also smell the dry woody thing. I feel it as much as smell it. It makes my lungs feel asthmatic. But the bigger changed is the mango tangerine aroma that I haven't smelled for quite a while on it.

The real reason for posting today is my joy that plant #1 is showing reveg. From a few feet away it looks to be dying. I was thinking that I cut the plant back too much. I knelt down close to yank some weeds that started growing in the pot, and I noticed a couple regrowth locations. I'm so happy about it!
:p(y):jump::bigeye::dance::dance013:

I wasn't sure this would happen because of an acquaintance who lives a little farther south very near the equator. He says his plants won't regrow there unless he uses lights. I was going to let plant #1 play out however it would. I was thinking I'd bring in plant #2 inside to regrow it because it seems to have more S.E. Asian traits, and I'm hoping that it has a high closer to what I'm looking for. Now I think I can leave it outside.

I am afraid that leaving plants outside all year will allow them to flower too early. From the three seasons I have been here, I think Februrary is the best weather of the year. It is the dryest and highest UV of the year, consistently. My future goal is to finish plants in February. The thing for me to learn is how different strains might regrow at different times from the shortest day of the year. I'll gain some info because plant #1 and plant #2 got done or very close to done about a month apart. It will be very interesting to see how long it takes plant #2 to show regrowth compared to plant #1.

Best vibes your way for your searches.
 

ThaiBliss

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Buds are shrinking up but still wet to touch. I don't think I've ever grown a plant that expressed so many aromas. It's giving off a metalic smell now. I take this as a very good sign, but I'm walking around my house with my teeth hurting all day. My mouth is full of fillings, and I've learned to cringe from this essence.
😁
 

ThaiBliss

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I believe I found a reveg leaf on my #2 plant today. I'll need to confirm later to be sure. If so, that is less than two weeks after my harvest. It took more than three weeks for plant #1 to reveg. That bodes well for easy timing of flowering plants during the best weather. Three months of flowering for early varieties to six or seven for the longest of the longest flowering types.

The weather has turned extremely dry lately. Humidity can be as low as 45% here. Not as dry is S.W. Oregon, which I've seen as low as 12%. Everyone and their brothers are burning their sugar cane fileds here now, and it's smokey. Mid January to mid March seems to me to be the best times to finish here. April 1 is the absolute latest finish date. I can try late December finishes, but the plants better be very mold resistant for that. Big fat dense buds best be harvested no earlier than Februrary.
 

ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

Plant #1 Early Sample Test:
Nothing stunning to report yet, though this is stronger than anything I have tried from this region. I would point out that my local experience is limited to less than a dozen of different local samples. At this point in it's cure, this is not stonger or more interesting than the best of what I've been growing at my prior location. Although I'm not noticing any specical traits of the high, it is on the cerebral side without obvious couch-lock or burnout. This much is very good news.
😊
It is very early in it's cure, so who knows. It is good enough to encourage looking around some more with hopes of finding something special. I'm confident in the genetics. A male I once found in a previous attempt was incredibly pungent. It's sister, plant #2 this year, has dramatic differences, including the ripening length being nearly a month longer. There will be much variety.
(y)
By the way, the sprout of new growth on plant #2 I noticed was definately reveg. In addition, volunteer seedlings have come up, in both pots! Pic below.
:smoke:
Plant #1 died. I let it dry out too much. This in conjunction with cutting it back too much was it's doom.

Confirmed #2 Reveg
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If this reveg, or any of the volunteer seedlings can live through the wet season, very large plants are possible. It's not really desired, except maybe for experimental purposes. LOL
 

ThaiBliss

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The pic of the seedling was significantly more out of focus than I thought. Maybe I was significantly higer than I thought. LOL

I woke up refreshed today. Some weed gives me a hangover, not this one. :)

A better seedling pic, but still out of focus. Not sure I can blame this on the camera.
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ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

Last year I planted too late. This year I have a plant started way too early. Hahaha! Sounds like something I do. In this case, some came up from seeds in late May and I just couldn't help myself. I only selected one for production. It is way more narrow leaf type than any I had last year. It's already 4 feet tall. It has a stronger aroma than my best from last year, but still similar as plant #2. That is to say it's very citric, lemon, mango, tangerine. Still hoping to one day finding another uber strong turpentine/pepper/pine individual. Meanwhile, it will be a miracle if I can keep this graceful lady alive durning the incredibly wet season. So far, so good.

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Sorry about the puke color background color of my patio wall. It's not as bad as it looks on my puke phone.
 

FeelHaze

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Don't sleep on Ace Panama. Even though it's a highly worked pure sativa line with a relatively short flowering time, effects can get pretty psychedelic. The ceiling is really high so you can reach another level of trippiness by smoking more. I experienced strong and long lasting time dilatation effects with this one. Also strongly euphoric and visual experience.

I rank it higher than Durban Poison, chocolope, SLH, SSH, NL#5 × Haze and Amnezia Haze to name a few.

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I just popped some Panama Haze fem seeds by Ace ( Panama x Oldtimer's Haze ). I'm excited to see what the OTH will add on to the already great high of the Panama.
 
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ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

I'd love to hear about that SAGE. I've found the "it" factor in those genetics before. That Panama looks really nice. Hopefully there are some green Haze genes floating around in those that you will be trying.

Update about the reveg and seed plants from last season's pots:

The long flowering plant #2 reveg plant is getting big and not flowering yet. I'm quite happy about that because most of the rainy season is still to come. :dance013:

Unfortunately, the seed plants that came up are already flowing, especially the big female from the faster flowering plant #1 from last season. The good news is that we will see just how mold resistant these things are. This needs to get out in unfiltered sun despite the rain or they won't get good enough for a decent test.

You just can't make this crazy sh*t up in life. I lived so far north that I had to work very hard for a very long time to select and breed for strains with cerebral / trippy leaning highs that ripen quite early. Now that I'm near the equator, I need to cull many plants that ripen too early. I'll also need a cool house, a tropical style greenhouse with ample ventilation including at the ridge, and supplemental lighting.
:LOL::ROFLMAO: Such is life. Moving here wasn't the cultivation cure all that was dreamed of. LOL!

I'll plant the last of my original Gypsy Thai Stick x (Neville's Haze x Mullumbimby Madness) in August. They won't need supplemental lighting. They won't get giant, but I might find a strength of high winner to breed with.

I'm also going to collect some seeds from my northern line that I have been breeding and outcrossing for many decades to the most cerebral, energetic, clear, and strong genetics that I could find. They will definately need supplemental lighting to get even 1/4 lb size, but at least I know they are better than the average or poor quality GTS x (NH x MM) seeds I have found so far. Still hoping for a winner with a high ceiling from those, but I need to improve the basement floor of the quality and get better consistency.

As a reminder, this old line of mine had a lot of other people's crosses when they used things like Thai (Trainwreck, Goo, etc.), Purple Zacatecas, Haze, Nepalese, Mexican, and the like. These were all known for their soaring highs. The two most recent standouts used in the line were Burmese (VISC) and Bangi Haze (ACE), two well bred lineages with stable traits. My line is still being cultivated and is very popular among irie vibed, cerebral loving, old heads back in the States.

All the best with your search!
 

need4weed

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Greetings,

I'd love to hear about that SAGE. I've found the "it" factor in those genetics before. That Panama looks really nice. Hopefully there are some green Haze genes floating around in those that you will be trying.

Update about the reveg and seed plants from last season's pots:

The long flowering plant #2 reveg plant is getting big and not flowering yet. I'm quite happy about that because most of the rainy season is still to come. :dance013:

Unfortunately, the seed plants that came up are already flowing, especially the big female from the faster flowering plant #1 from last season. The good news is that we will see just how mold resistant these things are. This needs to get out in unfiltered sun despite the rain or they won't get good enough for a decent test.

You just can't make this crazy sh*t up in life. I lived so far north that I had to work very hard for a very long time to select and breed for strains with cerebral / trippy leaning highs that ripen quite early. Now that I'm near the equator, I need to cull many plants that ripen too early. I'll also need a cool house, a tropical style greenhouse with ample ventilation including at the ridge, and supplemental lighting.
:LOL::ROFLMAO: Such is life. Moving here wasn't the cultivation cure all that was dreamed of. LOL!

I'll plant the last of my original Gypsy Thai Stick x (Neville's Haze x Mullumbimby Madness) in August. They won't need supplemental lighting. They won't get giant, but I might find a strength of high winner to breed with.

I'm also going to collect some seeds from my northern line that I have been breeding and outcrossing for many decades to the most cerebral, energetic, clear, and strong genetics that I could find. They will definately need supplemental lighting to get even 1/4 lb size, but at least I know they are better than the average or poor quality GTS x (NH x MM) seeds I have found so far. Still hoping for a winner with a high ceiling from those, but I need to improve the basement floor of the quality and get better consistency.

As a reminder, this old line of mine had a lot of other people's crosses when they used things like Thai (Trainwreck, Goo, etc.), Purple Zacatecas, Haze, Nepalese, Mexican, and the like. These were all known for their soaring highs. The two most recent standouts used in the line were Burmese (VISC) and Bangi Haze (ACE), two well bred lineages with stable traits. My line is still being cultivated and is very popular among irie vibed, cerebral loving, old heads back in the States.

All the best with your search!
Your lucky on the burmese, I've been on the lookout as it's right up my street, but to no avail. I've not found enough evidence to say that JOTI or coastal are the same
 

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