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MEMED

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yes Justintime420, single solvent dewax sunfire. The client called me after I sent a msg about dewaxing the batch pleading for me to also winterize as per usual, so that batch has turned into a lil more work. I did save abit of the ssdw stuff and noticed a lil more top notes in the bite of the sour then usual, just a tad, and I'll always winterize, Winterize everything. sap er atter. For double solvent extractions. Im excited to try the mz12x, and hone my bio etoh workflow as time allows....


Mainewaxworks, Im very interested in what you might have going on, i msged your visitor msg months ago! What up?! Pm me? Cheers.
 

pusbag

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Just replaced the piston seals and piston head seals for the umptingth in my g5's the other day. I usually get about 3 or 4 months in between rebuilds. they run 6 days a week 10 hour days. probably 6 to 8 hours of run time a day. All 4 still run perfect, all of them have been threw at least 2 new fans(biggest loudest POS on the whole pump). They are 1 to 2-1/4 years old (some newer then others). One has a squeaky bearing but you only hear it when it turns off and slows to a stop. Zero corrosion in the coolers from what i can see, and once the piston and everything is cleaned up everything looks brand new. Ive replaced the little poppit springs on the older one, the other are still fine and hold pressure.

How old are your tr-21 's??? Ive got a g5 that ran one of the first set of MKIII's sent out from carla, got my machine and pump on Mar 27, 2013. Still have that machine and pump(squeaky one), both have been rebuilt so many times lol.
So I'm sitting on a blown g5 and after hearing you talk A6 Grower I should rebuild it. Where the cheap place for rebuild kits ? I bet there's a forum on here for that too.
 

morgan101

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We have a large batch of NEW CM-EP pumps that we just got in. Ours all have Custom SS316 Compression Tube fittings that accept SS valves at the input and output of the pump. The new pumps have a slight different internal design to address the oil leak issue that some users experienced as well as a few other tweaks.


There is a "low pressure" and "high pressure" mode as well.

These pumps are going very fast. We are now filling pre-orders we had, but if anyone still needs a pump or two, we should have around 10 left for web orders by the last count.

Pictures and all details up on the site.

http://extractlabsupply.com/pumps/recovery-pumps/CM-EP-Recovery-Pump

Thanks.

ELS TEAM
 

snake11

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We have a large batch of NEW CM-EP pumps that we just got in. Ours all have Custom SS316 Compression Tube fittings that accept SS valves at the input and output of the pump. The new pumps have a slight different internal design to address the oil leak issue that some users experienced as well as a few other tweaks.


There is a "low pressure" and "high pressure" mode as well.

These pumps are going very fast. We are now filling pre-orders we had, but if anyone still needs a pump or two, we should have around 10 left for web orders by the last count.

Pictures and all details up on the site.

http://extractlabsupply.com/pumps/recovery-pumps/CM-EP-Recovery-Pump

Thanks.

ELS TEAM

You have to pay to be a vendor and advertise on this site.
 

HG23

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Well now, thangs are looking up! Besides the CM EP OL currently under test, we now have a serious top line US manufacturer interested in supplying pumps to our market.

Skunk Pharm Research previously met with them and shared the technical requirements for our application, and they just confirmed that they have a pump that will ostensibly meet those requirements and are mounting it to a test sled to confirm that and for us'n to thrash. More information, and I will reveal their name if it passes the factory tests and we'ns get one in our hands to put a few hard laps on.

So far no information about pricing and delivery, but hot damn I'm starting to get a wet leg with where solid pump availability seems to be headed. Hee, hee, hee, snicker, snark, snort, awhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Any news on this front GW? I really like what I'm hearing about the CMEPOL but feel it is likely overpriced. Some competition would be great.
 

Gray Wolf

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Any news on this front GW? I really like what I'm hearing about the CMEPOL but feel it is likely overpriced. Some competition would be great.

The CM EP OL continues to run without incident.

We still await the test sled for the competitive domestic unit, but it is due shortly.
 

cyclopath

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I've only had my CMEP OL for a week, but it seems like a solid entry.

Authentic Explosion Proof Recovery Machine!

TR21 is still working, Apion G5 and Promax both dead.
 

Brot

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The CM EP OL continues to run without incident.

We still await the test sled for the competitive domestic unit, but it is due shortly.

GW, how many hrs do you have on the unit? Have you run both Butane, and Propane? Have you been running a amp load test on the motor? See if it "fades" under use(amp load increase). Have you checked motor temps, after a few hrs of running? Any U.L. Certification certificates? Would like to chat private with you. Email?
 

Gray Wolf

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We have the test sled prototype and are impressed thus far. It came plumbed single stage, and we haven't yet re-plumbed it to see what it will do in double stage.

It pulls right down to -27" in single stage, so potentially we can recover more butane without overheating our piston seals.

A nice V twin design, that brings back fond memories of scooters past, and with the 3/4 hp TEFC explosion proof motor, it is heavy enough that it takes two strong lads move it around, soooo ve vill be adding a cart.

The recovery rate is similar to the Haskel under the same conditions, pointing out that to really use all of it's and the Haskel's potential, we need more evaporation area that the ~110 square inches provided by our 12" diameter recovery pot.

Perhaps the next great frontier, as 12" is about the limit for sanitary spool clamping systems in our application. Perhaps multiple pots, rather than larger ones, or a two stage system where the mixture is reduced in horizontal tubes for greater surface area, and finished in pots so that they are more easily removed.

After some static pressure tests here at the lair, we did butane recovery runs at Specialized Formulations to establish rates, and then a couple extractions, before moving it to a production facility than can put some serious hours on it. They actually have dueling Mk V's, so can potentially try it on two machines simultaneously to test my surface area hypothesis.

We verified seal compatibility before running but I've also asked for prints, so as to see what it looks like inside, so we don't have to tear it down to find out.

I already know from it robustness and long proven history, that it isn't prone to breaking, so don't see the need for extended testing, but do want to know more about how it is made, before encouraging the manufacturer to proceed and there are a few minor detail that need to be addressed, such as packaging.

It already weighs enough to require a cart, so a little added purdying up weight won't be noticed, though the sight of the robust V twin is almost enough to get my rocks off, and mah throttle hand twitching, so too much sheet metal might be a mistake.

More as thangs unfold...................... At least two strokes short of orgasm at this point, but continuing to look promising.
 

HG23

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Great news GW. I'll hold off on buying a replacement until more info and pictures are available. Thanks.
 

LabDog

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Has anyone used these? View Image

Am in the process of testing the bigger version of this with the dual chamber. Have run first part of the testing with 120 voltage setup, but plan to run it through its paces wired up at 220 to see what the differences are. Even though it says it will push 60 psi, I found that it was closer to low to mid 50's, & like the Gast's it doesn't like starting up with much pressure - needs a regulator set for around 30 to keep it happy.

It was run from 12 x 12 collection chamber @ average pressures of 30 psi in the chamber with water bath @ 70 degrees and running through a 3" x 48" tube of 3a before entering the pump, then into a MT69 that was in the same water bath before going into the freezer into a 65/35 propylene glycol water mix bath @ -30 degrees and then into a ambient temp tank. (the same setup I used to get # from my TR21 which is 13 lbs per hour). The output was 17 lbs per hour, but like I mentioned, it is picky about pressures!

Will get more info in the next week or so, adding the Appion #s as well as DB levels for the 3 pumps with the same setup.

BTW how are the Gast's doing, & does anyone know anything about the new Gast 86/87 series?
 
Am in the process of testing the bigger version of this with the dual chamber. Have run first part of the testing with 120 voltage setup, but plan to run it through its paces wired up at 220 to see what the differences are.

You should not see any difference with the pump 120 vs 240 voltage. It will run the same RPM at both. It will help balance your electric load at 240v. The motor may also run just a little cooler at 240v.
 
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