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Check out one of the current issues facing today's workforce. The resistance to return to the workplace after the pandemic vis a vis continuing to work from home. Consider the source, but check out the underlying issues:
OleReynard
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Most people have no idea how to use a shock collar correctly some people ruin their dogs with these.
In the first place dogs need to be conditioned with the dummy collar for a month or better.
Believe me they can tell the difference between the dummy and the active collar.
With the active collar weighing more because of the battery.
Imo people need to have one used on them before putting it on a dog. Just so they understand how it feels.
Have trained alot of bird dogs in my life and use of these was very limited.
The best is hands on.
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I as an electrician for 55 years would not approve
OleReynard
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Illinois is like that
I only use 20' of parachute cord with heavy gloves and a training chain. The first time I use the Come command, after getting 20' away, I squat with a smile on my face, and say, "Come."
When the first time pup stands there and looks at me, I gently pull them toward me with the cord, while saying, "GOOD puppy, comes when daddy calls", and making coming to my arms seem attractive. When they get there, I love them up and then try and get 20 feet away again. Not as easy the second time with a GSD, who are quick studies.
Once they have the Come technique down and choose to dawdle to finish what they are doing before responding, I jerk their chain with the command, which is where the heavy gloves come in.
GSD's are fast learners, but the fastest was Lola, a female whom we raised from a pup. Grayfox and I decided to elaborate on the technique by attaching two 20 foot cords, so that we could call Lola back and forth between us.
We had never used the come command with her and after getting 20 feet away, I squatted and gave the Come command, while clapping my hands and holding out my arms invitingly while smiling. Lola ran to my arms in a dead run and after I had loved her up, Grayfox repeated my action and got the same result.
Lola liked it so much that after a while, she would run to us, love us up and then turn and run back to the other to love them up, without us even giving the command.
I never had to jerk her chain for come, though it came in handy for training in general.
A prince among electricians!I as an electrician for 55 years would not approve
OleReynard
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Yep the training lead is your best tool for training.
Back before Electronic trainers we'd use sling shots with baby taters or else actually run after them and put your hands on them.
Was alot younger weighed alot less and alot better shape.
Back before Electronic trainers we'd use sling shots with baby taters or else actually run after them and put your hands on them.
Was alot younger weighed alot less and alot better shape.
dogzter
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Last night we.went for about 4 miles in under a half hour after the herd of deer.
Nothing like being completely ignored by the fuckin dogs..........shock collars stop off lead issues when used correctly.
Some goddamn dogs need them shits.
Gotta shave a bald spot behind Bubbas ear or it doesn't work his furs too thick.
Should be here today frankly I am over that shit hope we have good eye contact first time he gets zapped.........I may have a slight resentment.
Nothing like being completely ignored by the fuckin dogs..........shock collars stop off lead issues when used correctly.
Some goddamn dogs need them shits.
Gotta shave a bald spot behind Bubbas ear or it doesn't work his furs too thick.
Should be here today frankly I am over that shit hope we have good eye contact first time he gets zapped.........I may have a slight resentment.
OleReynard
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A bit of water where the contacts hit the skin helps immenselyLast night we.went for about 4 miles in under a half hour after the herd of deer.
Nothing like being completely ignored by the fuckin dogs..........shock collars stop off lead issues when used correctly.
Some goddamn dogs need them shits.
Gotta shave a bald spot behind Bubbas ear or it doesn't work his furs too thick.
Should be here today frankly I am over that shit hope we have good eye contact first time he gets zapped.........I may have a slight resentment.
Fortunately, I've never tried or needed a shock collar, even with Bodi, the three time loser male GSD mix that we rescued after his last year and a half stint in a cage.
He weighed 97 lbs and was such a handful that I got a pinch collar to control him. They don't work well off leash, but they make it more likely that they will respond off leash anyway.
One other trick that I learned is that you can reinforce the Come response simply by running them through other commands like sit, shake, down, et al. It gets them in the habit of responding.
Having said all that, they sometimes still don't come when they are having too much fun, and then I just go get them. Important to never let a dog win a contest of wills.
He weighed 97 lbs and was such a handful that I got a pinch collar to control him. They don't work well off leash, but they make it more likely that they will respond off leash anyway.
One other trick that I learned is that you can reinforce the Come response simply by running them through other commands like sit, shake, down, et al. It gets them in the habit of responding.
Having said all that, they sometimes still don't come when they are having too much fun, and then I just go get them. Important to never let a dog win a contest of wills.
OleReynard
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Grab a leg off a deer schmear in a road take it home and smack him with it, seriouslyLast night we.went for about 4 miles in under a half hour after the herd of deer.
Nothing like being completely ignored by the fuckin dogs..........shock collars stop off lead issues when used correctly.
Some goddamn dogs need them shits.
Gotta shave a bald spot behind Bubbas ear or it doesn't work his furs too thick.
Should be here today frankly I am over that shit hope we have good eye contact first time he gets zapped.........I may have a slight resentment.
This is what houndsmen would do for coon dogs running deer
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What is the range on the collar controls?Last night we.went for about 4 miles in under a half hour after the herd of deer.
Nothing like being completely ignored by the fuckin dogs..........shock collars stop off lead issues when used correctly.
Some goddamn dogs need them shits.
Gotta shave a bald spot behind Bubbas ear or it doesn't work his furs too thick.
Should be here today frankly I am over that shit hope we have good eye contact first time he gets zapped.........I may have a slight resentment.
OleReynard
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Depends what settings you use some will go upto a mile
Aversion therapy!
You could also place it where he can get at it and zap him every time he goes for it, so that he associates the smell with bad things.
OleReynard
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Very bad things
The folks that I've seen use them, use the buzzer function most of the time, after the initial shock.
OleReynard
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The buzz is to be the warning before the shock
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