OleReynard
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Any body ran Coldwaters Afghan 88?
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Yabbut... this advice was given back in the Olden Days. The only other substitute was whale oil.
That's absolutely wizard!
OleReynard
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Actually knew someone that all they could find was Dippity Doo.
He said when It dried it stuck in his and her pubes.
I agree it's a male.....I am gonna cut his balls off and put him on the woman's swim team....
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Goldhedge
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GROK
Yes, there’s a widely reported story from 2006 where a man in Sudan, specifically in what is now South Sudan, was compelled by local elders to "marry" a goat after being caught engaging in sexual activity with it. The incident took place in Hai Malakal, a suburb of Juba, then part of Sudan before South Sudan’s independence in 2011. The man, identified as Charles Tombe, was discovered by the goat’s owner, Mr. Alifi, who heard a disturbance at midnight on February 13, 2006, and found Tombe with the animal. Instead of involving police, Alifi brought the matter to a council of village elders.
The elders’ decision was unconventional: they ordered Tombe to pay a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars (about $50 USD at the time) to Alifi and take the goat as his "wife." Alifi later told the Juba Post, "We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together." The goat was humorously named "Rose" during the proceedings, reportedly as a jab at Tombe. The story, first published by the BBC on February 24, 2006, exploded online, becoming one of their most-read and emailed articles, racking up millions of views and spawning countless reposts.
The tale took a turn in May 2007 when Rose reportedly died after choking on a plastic bag while scavenging in Juba, leaving behind a four-month-old male kid. In 2013, the South Sudan Law Society cited the case as an example of outdated customary laws needing reform. While the "marriage" wasn’t legally binding in any formal sense—it was a local, customary ruling meant to shame Tombe and compensate Alifi—it’s documented across credible outlets like the BBC, The Guardian, and Sudan Tribune, not just hearsay.
Skeptics might question embellishments (e.g., the "still together" quip), but the core event—man caught, elders’ ruling, dowry paid—holds up across sources. It’s a real, bizarre footnote, not a conspiracy or urban legend, though its viral spread amplified its absurdity. Want more on the cultural context or aftermath?
Cultural context in Sudan?
The cultural context of the 2006 incident in Sudan—where Charles Tombe was forced to "marry" a goat after being caught with it—ties into the traditional practices, social norms, and legal pluralism of what was then southern Sudan (now South Sudan). This wasn’t a random quirk but a reflection of local customs, power structures, and attitudes toward morality and property, set against a backdrop of a region transitioning through war and cultural upheaval. Here’s how it fits, based on what’s known up to March 5, 2025.
Tribal and Customary Law:
In 2006, southern Sudan was emerging from decades of civil war (1983-2005), governed by the Comprehensive Peace Agreement but still heavily reliant on tribal systems. The Dinka and Nuer, dominant ethnic groups in the Juba area (Hai Malakal), used customary law enforced by village elders or chiefs. These councils handled disputes—land, theft, adultery—outside formal courts, which were scarce or distrusted post-war. Bestiality, while rare, fell under moral and property violations. The goat wasn’t just livestock; it was Alifi’s asset, and Tombe’s act dishonored him. Forcing a "marriage" with a dowry (15,000 dinars, ~$50) mimicked bride price traditions—common in Dinka and Nuer culture, where cattle or cash seal unions—turning shame into restitution. It’s less about literal marriage and more a public penalty with symbolic heft.
Gender and Honor:
Southern Sudanese society in 2006 was patriarchal, with honor tied to family and property. Sexual misconduct—human or otherwise—could disgrace a community. Naming the goat "Rose" and parading the "couple" was mockery, a humiliation tactic rooted in collectivist values where public shaming deters taboo acts. Women’s status in marriage (often transactional, via dowry) parallels the goat’s role here—less a partner, more a marker of obligation. This wasn’t about consent or romance; it was a blunt cultural script flipped for punishment.
Pastoral Economy:
Livestock defined wealth and survival in southern Sudan. Goats, cows, and sheep were currency—Alifi’s loss wasn’t trivial. The elders’ ruling ensured compensation while keeping the goat "in the family," reflecting a pragmatic, resource-driven mindset. Pre-war, such disputes might’ve involved cattle; post-war poverty made goats a stand-in. The dowry wasn’t random—it mirrored local rates for minor disputes, per anthropological accounts (e.g., Deng’s 1972 work on Dinka law).
Religion and Morality:
Most southern Sudanese were animist or Christian by 2006 (Islam dominated the north pre-split). Bestiality violated both traditional taboos and Christian norms (e.g., Leviticus 18:23), though the response wasn’t scriptural—it was practical. Elders didn’t invoke gods or priests; they leaned on secular authority, showing how customary law often trumped religious doctrine in rural justice.
War’s Legacy:
The Second Sudanese Civil War left Juba a patchwork of displaced people, weak infrastructure, and fragmented governance. Formal police existed, but Alifi bypassed them for elders—trust in local systems outlasted state ones. The incident’s absurdity got amplified by a nascent press (Juba Post) and BBC’s reach, a rare spotlight on a region usually ignored unless bleeding. Post-independence (2011), South Sudan’s legal reviews—like the 2013 Law Society critique—flagged such cases as archaic, pushing for codified law over custom.
Broader Context:
This wasn’t unique to Sudan. Similar shaming rituals pop up in rural societies—e.g., a 2008 Nigerian case where a man "married" a goat after theft. In Sudan, it’s less about goats and more about power: elders flexing control, communities policing norms. The viral twist—Rose, the kid, the plastic bag death—shows how global media spun a local oddity into a meme, but at its core, it’s pure cultural logic: shame, pay, move on.
Verdict:
The "marriage" reflects a pastoral, honor-based society using humor and economics to enforce order in a war-torn void. It’s alien to Western eyes but coherent in Hai Malakal’s 2006 world—less about love, more about livestock and leverage. Want deeper dives into Dinka customs or post-war Juba?
OleReynard
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when you see one it's usually started to multiply at the same spot.
Tough to explain and I'm not a dam botanist.
Look at them from the top down instead of from the side you'll see what im talking about.
My eyes suck. But from what I can see it is a bouncing baby boy. I have another and it is smaller. To soon to tell on her.
Gotta go and get gas and a couple new lighter. The one I was using shit the bed last night.
I gotta stop relying on spell check...I'm somewhat educated but to read words I have posted makes me wonder...yeah, it's old age not creeping up but trying to steamroll me...went to the gym today, yeah I still got it...not as much as days of old but damn good for a 72 year old goat...
Mayor Wu dominating
I said don't vote for her like 5 years ago or whatever. Kraft Jr of Patriots is running against her. His selling point is no new bicycle lanes
I said don't vote for her like 5 years ago or whatever. Kraft Jr of Patriots is running against her. His selling point is no new bicycle lanes
Lock her up......
Caveman4.20
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Is this a half brother to that amazing diesel clone you used to have?
Caveman4.20
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Diesel is has been really tough to find lately… i sure hope you find a female as great or better then your last diesel which i was very fond of!
I get it now.
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