The Oregon Weed Thread -Grows, News and Laws and Whatever

[PDX Dopesmoker]

The numbers for weed grown per capita are rather skewed though. A lot of weed is sold here to people in Washington, Idaho ad California, as well as to others out of state. They come from Washington because of the number of rec shops, and they can buy plants here. In Idaho weed is still illegal. In California grow, sales and excise taxes will force retail prices up even with wholesale prices in the basement. Also in NYC, Chicago, Philly and Florida, weed is still steep. I have a friend who owns a rec shop near PDX airport, and all they do there is sell to weed tourists from out of state.

The Portland city government does a lot of bragging about how much tourism business the city is doing recently. Their take is that tourism is booming because of fantastic city government, but their might be other things drawing in visitors.

 

[spazspaz]

...might be other things drawing in visitors.

Yeah, the whole attraction to Amsterdam in the early 90's comes to mind, but also the entire city of Portland is basically a tax-free open air shopping mall full of rich lunks from all the other boring places. Flying in from Nashville or Shanghai for some cheaper iShit and Louis Vuitton and Vans and mildewy machine-trimmed shroad is probably more attractive to modern shitass no-adventure selfie drips than any conceivable alternative.

The legal stone is too polished.

 

[Satyros]

Please explain "shroad"?

 

[spazspaz]

Please explain "shroad"?

Oops, 'schroad' is a bit of old Humboldt vernacular for inferior quality reef. Rhymes with skoad, as in, "You came into town with your new boots on/Hit the road skoad/ We don't need your bag of shroad (Grimace lyrics, maybe somewhat paraphrased.)"

 

[OregonBorn]

The Portland city government does a lot of bragging about how much tourism business the city is doing recently. Their take is that tourism is booming because of fantastic city government, but their might be other things drawing in visitors.

Other things like... the huge number of homeless camps and piles of garbage that they leave all over town? Or the shooting galleries down by the river? Or the parking lots that they call freeways here? Or all the corruption in the city? Or the protests that usually turn into riots? Fantastic city government.... *cough gag choke* what a fukking joke.

 

[OregonBorn]

BTW, the fire out in the gorge is still smoldering from last year. The oldest scenic highway in the US is still a charred heading out toward the falls, as is the falls area. A lot of trails are still closed. All because of some Russian emigrant kid from Washington with fireworks and no brain. The judge in the Eagle Creek Fire case has ordered the teen boy who admitted starting the blaze to pay $36.6 million in restitution. Serves him right.

 

[beta]

BTW, the fire out in the gorge is still smoldering from last year. The oldest scenic highway in the US is still a charred heading out toward the falls, as is the falls area. A lot of trails are still closed. All because of some Russian emigrant kid from Washington with fireworks and no brain. The judge in the Eagle Creek Fire case has ordered the teen boy who admitted starting the blaze to pay $36.6 million in restitution. Serves him right.

What the fuck does him being an immigrant have to do with this? Something tells me you wouldn't have pointed out they were a US citizen if that were the case.

 

[OregonBorn]

What the fuck does him being an immigrant have to do with this? Something tells me you wouldn't have pointed out they were a US citizen if that were the case.

Just pointing out that he is the son of Russian emigrants. Its a pertinent FACT in the case. But my beef is more that he is from WASHINGTON. You do not seem to care about my pointing ~that~ out. Or the fact that Washington allows the sale of fireworks on every corner just outside of Vancouver around the 4th of July, with no regard for the impact of those devices. I happen to live along the west boundary of that fire zone. So yes, I am good and pissed off at this little fucking turd with the lame ass crying parents in court, telling the translators that they and their poor son are so overwhelmed with grief. Where were they last year when this perp was setting off fireworks and laughing about it? Oh, but we all have to be so fukking politically correct to make ~you~ happy? Fuk that noise.

Ask the people here that lost their houses about how they feel about these Russian *emigrants* in Vancouver. They have no love for them, sorry. Nor do I. I have no love for the Russian invasion of Vancouver (seemingly most are here legally) nor for their mother Russia. Nor the growing illegal hispanic barrios in Gresham and Hillsboro either. I was born here, if you wanna know. And in my opinion this area has gone to complete shyte. Never mind the homeless fuks that have taken over Portland, and now seem to want to kill people.

Typical day in Portland... oh, and this perp IS A US Citizen and apparently from PORTLAND. Happy now?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/...lling-homeless-man-to-move-daughter-says.html

 

[Robrites]

May 30, 2018​

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OLCC Will Pause Acceptance of Marijuana License Applications

Focus Will Be on Existing Licensees and Current Applicants

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• The OLCC will temporarily shift licensing staff to focus solely on recreational marijuana licensing renewals for current licensees, already submitted recreational marijuana applications, and medical marijuana registrants required to start using Oregon's Cannabis Tracking System

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Portland, OR -- The Oregon Liquor Control Commission announced today it will temporarily shift licensing staff to exclusively process recreational marijuana license renewals and applications for recreational marijuana licenses received by June 15, 2018. Any applications for recreational marijuana submitted after June 15 will be set aside for processing until the OLCC processes outstanding applications and renewals in the queue.​

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Since April 2016, the OLCC has issued almost 1,900 recreational marijuana licenses and almost 29,000 marijuana worker permits. The pace of application submissions has not slowed, and as a result, the licensing application process timeline has lengthened. The temporary suspension of new licenses reflects this extended review period currently experienced by applicants, and it will allow the OLCC to clear the application backlog and ensure ongoing oversight of the legal marijuana market.​

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“In order to ensure that the OLCC is fulfilling its regulatory duties and providing timely responses to businesses in the industry, we must focus on the current participants in the system and preserve for the Oregon Legislature its consideration of the necessity for further statutory controls on marijuana licensing in 2019,” said Steve Marks, Executive Director of the Oregon Liquor Control Commission.​

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The OLCC has deployed staff from across the agency several times since the start of licensing to handle spikes in license and worker permit application submissions. However, the occasional surges have turned into a steady stream of applications. Even with additional staff approved by the legislature, it is taking agency staff longer to work through license renewals and license location changes, and to approve changes to existing licensed premises.​

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In addition to processing new license applications, the OLCC is obligated to service its existing licensees through license renewals and changes in business structure filings. The agency has learned during the first two years of licensing that it takes significant staff time and resources to complete marijuana license renewals.​

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Also, as a result of a change in Oregon law up to 2,000 (OMMP) grow sites are required to register with the state’s Cannabis Tracking System (CTS) by July 1, 2018. The OLCC will be responsible for compliance auditing and inspection of these grow sites using CTS.​

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OLCC’s combined auditing of the state’s recreational and medical marijuana markets is expected to provide comprehensive oversight of legal cannabis production. The OLCC is also putting additional resources into the field for compliance activity, with a focus targeting Oregon’s 2018 fall outdoor harvest.​

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“Public and consumer safety are guiding priorities for the OLCC and our work with regulators, law enforcement, and the marijuana industry,” said Marks. “The success of our regulated system will continue to rely on our cooperative effort to encourage legitimate participants in this system, while deterring and shutting down illegal activity.”​

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[PDX Dopesmoker]

Oops, 'schroad' is a bit of old Humboldt vernacular for inferior quality reef. Rhymes with skoad, as in, "You came into town with your new boots on/Hit the road skoad/ We don't need your bag of shroad (Grimace lyrics, maybe somewhat paraphrased.)"

i think google translate doesn't have the humoldtese creole to english function yet.

 

[Robrites]

Glut of marijuana in Oregon is cautionary tale, experts say

Glut of marijuana in Oregon is cautionary tale, experts say

By The Associated Press

PORTLAND -- When Oregon lawmakers created the state's legal marijuana program, they had one goal in mind above all else: to convince illicit pot growers to leave the black market.
That meant low barriers for entering the industry that also targeted long-standing medical marijuana growers, whose product is not taxed. As a result, weed production boomed -- with a bitter consequence.
Now, marijuana prices here are in freefall, and the craft cannabis farmers who put Oregon on the map decades before broad legalization say they are in peril of losing their now-legal businesses as the market adjusts.
Oregon regulators on Wednesday announced they will stop processing new applications for marijuana licenses in two weeks to address a severe backlog and ask state lawmakers to take up the issue next year.
Experts say the dizzying evolution of Oregon's marijuana industry may well be a cautionary tale for California, where a similar regulatory structure could mean an oversupply on a much larger scale.
"For the way the program is set up, the state (California) just wants to get as many people in as possible, and they make no bones about it," said Hilary Bricken, a Los Angeles-based attorney specializing in marijuana business law. "Most of these companies will fail as a result of oversaturation."
Feds will target marijuana black market, overproduction in Oregon
Oregon has nearly 1 million pounds of marijuana flower -- commonly called bud -- in its inventory, a staggering amount for a state with about 4 million people. Producers told The Associated Press wholesale prices fell more than 50 percent in the past year; a study by the state's Office of Economic Analysis found the retail cost of a gram of marijuana fell from $14 in 2015 to $7 in 2017.
The oversupply can be traced largely to state lawmakers' and regulators' earliest decisions to shape the industry.
They were acutely aware of Oregon's entrenched history of providing top-drawer pot to the black market nationwide, as well as a concentration of small farmers who had years of cultivation experience in the legal, but largely unregulated, medical pot program.
Getting those growers into the system was critical if a legitimate industry was to flourish, said Sen. Ginny Burdick, a Portland Democrat who co-chaired a committee created to implement the voter-approved legalization measure.
Lawmakers decided not to cap licenses; to allow businesses to apply for multiple licenses; and to implement relatively inexpensive licensing fees.
Oregon's Liquor Control Commission announced Wednesday it will put aside applications for new licenses received after June 15 until a backlog of pending applications is cleared. The decision comes after U.S. Attorney Billy Williams challenged state officials to address the oversupply.
"In my view, and frankly in the view of those in the industry that I've heard from, it's a failing of the state for not stepping back and taking a look at where this industry is at following legalization," Williams told the AP in a phone interview.
But those in the industry supported the initial decisions that led to the oversupply, Burdick said.
"We really tried to focus on policies that would rein in the medical industry and snuff out the black market as much as possible," Burdick said.
Lawmakers also quickly backtracked on a rule requiring marijuana businesses have a majority ownership by someone with Oregon residency after entrepreneurs complained it was hard to secure startup money. That change opened the door to deep-pocketed, out-of-state companies that could begin consolidating the industry.
The state has granted 1,001 producer licenses and had another 950 in process as of last week. State officials worry if they cut off licensing or turn away those already in the application process, they'll get sued or encourage illegal trade.
Some of the same parameters are taking shape in California, equally known for black-market pot from its Emerald Triangle.
Rules now in effect there cap only certain, medium-sized growing licenses. In some cases, companies acquired dozens of growing licenses, which can be operated on the same or adjoining parcels. The California Growers Association, an advocacy group, is suing to block those rules, fearing they will open the way for vast farms that will drive out smaller cultivators.
Beau Whitney, senior economist at national cannabis analytics firm New Frontier Data, said he's seeing California prices fall.
In contrast, Washington knew oversupply could draw federal attention and was more conservative about licensing. As the market matured, its regulators eased growing limits, but the state never experienced an oversupply crisis.
Colorado has no license caps, but strict rules designed to limit oversupply allow it to curtail a growers' farm size based on past crop yields, existing inventory, sales deals and other factors.
In Oregon, cannabis retail chains are emerging to take advantage of the shake-up.
A company called Nectar has 13 stores around the state -- with three more on tap -- and says on its website it is buying up for-sale dispensaries too. Canada-based Golden Leaf Holdings bought the successful Oregon startup Chalice and has six stores around Portland, with another slated to open.
William Simpson, Chalice's founder and Golden Leaf Holdings CEO, is expanding into Northern California, Nevada and Canada. Simpson welcomes criticism that his business is to cannabis what Starbucks is to mass-market coffee.
"If you take Chalice like Starbucks, it's a known quantity, it's a brand that people know and trust," he said.
Amy Margolis, the Oregon Cannabis Association's executive director, says capping licenses would only spur more consolidation in the long term. The state is working on a study that should provide data and insight into what lies ahead.
"I don't think that everything in this state is motivated by struggle and failure," she said. "I'm very interested to see ... how this market settles itself and (in) being able to do that from a little less of a reactionary place."
For now, Oregon's smaller marijuana businesses are trying to stay afloat.
A newly formed group will launch an ad campaign this fall to tell Oregonians why they should pay more for mom-and-pop cannabis. Oregon Craft Cannabis Alliance founder Adam Smith believes 70 percent of Oregon's small growers and retailers will go out of business if consumers don't respond.
"We could turn around in three to four years and realize that 10 to 12 major companies own a majority of the Oregon industry and that none of it is really based here anymore," he said. "The Oregon brand is really all about authenticity. It's about people with their hands in the dirt, making something they love as well as they can. How do we save that?"
--The Associated Press

 

[Robrites]

Oregon mom cited after toddler overdoses on marijuana-infused candy

Oregon mom cited after toddler overdoses on marijuana-infused candy

The Oregonian/OregonLive
A mother in La Pine was cited for child neglect after her 2-year-old son ate homemade marijuana-infused candy police say she left unattended.
Katelynn Joy, 27, at some point discovered a partially eaten edible while at home but waited several hours before calling 911, according to the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office. Over time, the symptoms of the apparent THC overdose worsened.
Deputies and paramedics responded to the home around 5:15 p.m. and found the child in apparent distress, the sheriff's office said. The overdose seemed life threatening by the time he was being driven to St. Charles Medical Center in Bend.
The boy has since been released from the hospital and is under DHS supervision, the sheriff's office said. Joy was also cited for endangering the welfare of a minor.
THC can be dangerous for children and animals, the sheriff's office said. Signs of a marijuana overdose could include a rapid heart rate, hallucinations, vomiting, panic attacks and paranoia.
Anyone who suspects their child or pet has eaten marijuana- or THC-infused products should call 911 or a veterinarian immediately, the sheriff's office said. Other options include the Poison Control Center at 800-222-1222 and the ASPCA Animal Poison Control at 888-426-4435.
-- Everton Bailey Jr.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

The Oregonian/OregonLive
A mother in La Pine was cited for child neglect after her 2-year-old son ate homemade marijuana-infused candy police say she left unattended.
Katelynn Joy, 27, at some point discovered a partially eaten edible while at home but waited several hours before calling 911, according to the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office. Over time, the symptoms of the apparent THC overdose worsened.
Deputies and paramedics responded to the home around 5:15 p.m. and found the child in apparent distress, the sheriff's office said. The overdose seemed life threatening by the time he was being driven to St. Charles Medical Center in Bend.
The boy has since been released from the hospital and is under DHS supervision, the sheriff's office said. Joy was also cited for endangering the welfare of a minor.
THC can be dangerous for children and animals, the sheriff's office said. Signs of a marijuana overdose could include a rapid heart rate, hallucinations, vomiting, panic attacks and paranoia.
Anyone who suspects their child or pet has eaten marijuana- or THC-infused products should call 911 or a veterinarian immediately, the sheriff's office said. Other options include the Poison Control Center at 800-222-1222 and the ASPCA Animal Poison Control at 888-426-4435.
-- Everton Bailey Jr.

THC can be dangerous for children

how so?

 

[Robrites]

how so?

Physically, may be not.
Mentally though?
Edibles can take adults for a ride. A two year old? Fuck, Oh Dear.

 

[Robrites]

Physically, may be not.
Mentally though?
Edibles can take adults for a ride. A two year old? Fuck, Oh Dear.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Physically, may be not.
Mentally though?
Edibles can take adults for a ride. A two year old? Fuck, Oh Dear.

I know a guy who told me he ate acid by accident at age 5. He's fine. Children are confused all them time as it is, they get sick all the time and they recover quickly.
Its not a big news story every time a kid gets drunk.

 

[OregonBorn]

By The Associated Press

So the glut of weed in Oregon gets all the press about falling prices. Although both Washington and Colorado have had the exact same thing happen there.

https://mjbizdaily.com/washington-state-cannabis-supply-hits-new-low-spurs-calls-change/

https://www.k-zap.org/a-recreational-pot-glut-in-colorado-should-california-growers-worry/

Also here in Oregon, they have done EXACTLY what they set out to do in allowing prices to fall with a glut of inventory, to quench the black market in-state. It is no secret that they intended this to happen right from the start. Yet now that it is happening everyone is running around like in a Chinese Fire Drill flapping their yaps about it. Sells internet ads and newspapers I guess. Fan the flames about nothing to make a buck. Sensationalized press for the suckers to buy.

Not that it matters to me. I grow my own weed. Nuk nuk nuk. I also have "an oversupply" as I grow more than I can smoke. So I give my excess inventory away legally, one oz at a time. Talk about suppressing prices.

 

[OregonBorn]

I know a guy who told me he ate acid by accident at age 5. He's fine. Children are confused all them time as it is, they get sick all the time and they recover quickly.
Its not a big news story every time a kid gets drunk.

You flap your fat yap here that people, and especially kids, OD on drugs, and then you say that its no fucking big deal? You ought to be locked up for stupidity. Seriously.

 

[green404]

So the glut of weed in Oregon gets all the press about falling prices. Although both Washington and Colorado have had the exact same thing happen there.

Cannabis is now in the world of agriculture. You have to grow big/mass scale and sell cheap. The world of contraband/illegal cannabis is coming to an end.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

So the glut of weed in Oregon gets all the press about falling prices. Although both Washington and Colorado have had the exact same thing happen there.

https://mjbizdaily.com/washington-state-cannabis-supply-hits-new-low-spurs-calls-change/

https://www.k-zap.org/a-recreational-pot-glut-in-colorado-should-california-growers-worry/

Also here in Oregon, they have done EXACTLY what they set out to do in allowing prices to fall with a glut of inventory, to quench the black market in-state. It is no secret that they intended this to happen right from the start. Yet now that it is happening everyone is running around like in a Chinese Fire Drill flapping their yaps about it. Sells internet ads and newspapers I guess. Fan the flames about nothing to make a buck. Sensationalized press for the suckers to buy.

Not that it matters to me. I grow my own weed. Nuk nuk nuk. I also have "an oversupply" as I grow more than I can smoke. So I give my excess inventory away legally, one oz at a time. Talk about suppressing prices.

I think it was about two years ago socioecologist, who works with the state government is some sort of advisory fashion, predicted that this exact course of events would take place. Now they act like it's a surprise and that "something has to be done". Maybe if they increased the purchase limits at the shops that would help retail customers help out with the glut. Theres no limits at the liquor store.
All of these supposed free market forces they are relying on to manage prices can't work if there is no outlet at the bottom of the market during a glut.
If anything the OLCC should be using it's tax revenue to subsidize tourism, how about they pay a $50 rebate on every airline customer flying into Oregon from places where marijuana is illegal and raise the purchase limit to half a pound? Some shit like that would get the gram prices at the weed stores back closer to where they want them.