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[Robrites]

Josephine county bans large scale Cannabis grows in rural residential areas

Josephine county bans large scale Cannabis grows in rural residential areas

Grants Pass, Ore. – Starting Wednesday commercial marijuana growers in Josephine County will have new rules to follow after county commissioners passed changes to an old ordinance.
The changes impact commercial growers in rural residential zones. The old ordinance stated commercial marijuana grown in rural residential zones wasn’t allowed on lots of five acres or less. The new wording covers all lots in that zoning, effectively banning large grows in rural residential areas.
Commissioner Dan DeYoung said another change involves the annual certification.
“We had an annual certification we needed clarified. We have taken the fee out but you still have to do the annual certification,” DeYoung said.
The annual certification is needed for people growing under an OLCC license. That license is necessary for growers who have more than 12 plants.
Grower Aaron Gerk said he thinks these changes will hurt his business.
“I have no idea where my future goes beyond this,” Gerk said. “I will go from employing five people to being on welfare.”
DeYoung said the ordinance changes should not hurt those who follow the rules.
“The people that want to do it right and that are doing it right, and there’s a lot of them, I am on there side,” DeYoung said. “I don’t think the OLCC, the Feds, I don’t think anyone is after those folks.”
The changes to the ordinance are effective immediately and it will be signed into law in 90 days.
At least one group has said it will sue over the commissioner’s decision.

 

[mushroombrew]

What a mess. Grandfather rights were invented over things like this. Are they really shutting people down? I gues loval juridiction is as big a threat as my buddy Jeff.
Crazy.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

What a mess. Grandfather rights were invented over things like this. Are they really shutting people down? I gues loval juridiction is as big a threat as my buddy Jeff.
Crazy.

Its the federal constitution that would normal protect you from "ex post facto" legislation. The state government currently operates under the illusion that they are legally free from constitutional prohibitions in regards to marijuana laws because the feds won't protect you from them in such circumstances. The state government knows that they are wrong about that and they also know that nobody will ever test it, so the situation allows state and local governing bodies to to act like little dictators and of course they jump at the opportunity immediately.
Rob Patridge announced his control of the strain names regime and the changes he was demanding a few days before he took over officially.

 

[Oregonism]

This state is dying to seek revenue anywhere! PERS is about ready to eat this state alive and we aren't even really that "bad" off when looking across the country....but damn what Irony, because if you haven't picked up a paper in the last year, the red team sucks, well they always have and if your on the other "side" maybe blue, you are better and at least not a nazi, right . This all from the state with the lowest graduation rate in the country. Not Mississippi, Not Alabama, pick your cousin fucker state, not them, us. By the way, most of the states are freaking beautiful too and definitely not filled will rednecks....shhh, dont tell anybody it will ruin their party....
Fuck the OLCC

 

[Robrites]

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

This state is dying to seek revenue anywhere! PERS is about ready to eat this state alive and we aren't even really that "bad" off when looking across the country....but damn what Irony, because if you haven't picked up a paper in the last year, the red team sucks, well they always have and if your on the other "side" maybe blue, you are better and at least not a nazi, right . This all from the state with the lowest graduation rate in the country. Not Mississippi, Not Alabama, pick your cousin fucker state, not them, us. By the way, most of the states are freaking beautiful too and definitely not filled will rednecks....shhh, dont tell anybody it will ruin their party....
Fuck the OLCC

Everything you they taught you in elementary school about power corrupting and the need to protect yourself against that nature is playing out in textbook fashion in Oregon, the state has a long entrenched single party government which acts dictatorially and exclusively in it's own self interest, occasionally in disturbingly aggressive and violent ways. All of the same high pressure bullshit from the east coast's big cities are coming our way, toll roads, red light cameras, speeding cameras, all needed to pay for more cops and more bureaucrats breathing down the back of your neck demanding more money from you and more info about you, it makes you feel almost privileged to live in the land of the free.

 

[OregonBorn]

I'd like to hear anyone's experience with the cbd distillates, the 99% stuff. Sounds good in theory, but I think I would like a 15-50% cbd cultivar with nice flavor better somehow.

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My need for pure CBD is for my cat. For myself, I grow a strain here that is about half and half CBD & THC, called Herkle. The CBD definitely tones down the THC high, but the combo seems to work better for pain for me. I have also tried a lot of high CBD strains, like Frank's Gift and Therapy, which are both two to one CBD to TCH. Theya re both OK, but they do not seem to work as well for me as the half and half strains.

 

[OregonBorn]

https://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/12/eugene_cannabis_lab_owner_plan.html

Yes, Antifa, known for using Nazi fascist methods to combat fascism. Welcome to the modern insane world that only George Orwell could explain.

 

[OregonBorn]

"The newspaper noted that as a result, many medical marijuana dispensaries are either switching to recreational or going out of business. One county in Oregon had 31 medical dispensaries in April 2015. Today, that number is down to only two, and it's possible it will be zero next year."

Medical is done here....by design. Once the OLCC took over they wanted all control.

Actually from my dealings and involvement with the OHA, it was actually the other way around. It was OHA that wanted nothing to do with OMMP, and they said that from early on. OHA gladly handed it over to the OLCC. Its the same in California where MMj is being dissolved there next year, and ALL medical goes away there and is being moved under the BCC. The BCC is California's equivalent to the OLCC, but unlike Oregon, BCC will only manage cannabis, and the ABC will continue to control booze there. Medical next year will get you sales tax free weed in California, and that is all. In Oregon the possession limits are a lot higher for medical card holders, and you can still grow more plants. And you get a break on the sales tax on weed with an OMMP card here. And it is still possible to grow medical here on a larger scale, though the state is forcing you into using OLCC tracking and testing.

But if you think this is bad and the end of the world, look at the insane taxes that the state and counties and cities are putting on growers and sellers in California. Grower excise state taxes, heavy point of sales taxes and excise taxes, insane local grow site square foot taxes, as well as heavy business taxes, license and permit fees, etc. I listed them all separately over on the "California has too much pot" thread here on IC. They are guaranteeing that the black market thrives there. But that will also be good for sales in Southern Oregon with cheaper rec weed for sale.

 

[mushroombrew]

My need for pure CBD is for my cat. For myself, I grow a strain here that is about half and half CBD & THC, called Herkle. The CBD definitely tones down the THC high, but the combo seems to work better for pain for me. I have also tried a lot of high CBD strains, like Frank's Gift and Therapy, which are both two to one CBD to TCH. Theya re both OK, but they do not seem to work as well for me as the half and half strains.

There are distillation rigs that separate Cannabinoids(max 96%)and terpenes simultaneously. I just need $75k for the machine and I got your cat covered!!

Seriously nice units for high purity.

My fiancee wants CBD for her dog lol !

 

[Oregonism]

See what I mean about the High School Grad Rate

See what I mean about the High School Grad Rate

http://www.ktvz.com/news/two-ore-pot-shops-say-neo-nazi-linked-mix-up-causing-harassment/670862571

EUGENE, Ore. (AP) - Two Willamette Valley pot shops say they're getting harassed for having a similar name to another marijuana business owned by a white nationalist.

The Register-Guard reports that Oregon Growers Analytical, known as OG Analytical, is a state-accredited marijuana testing lab, whose owner has been linked to white pride events and neo-Nazi groups.

Now, two other pot businesses, Eugene OG in Eugene and OG Collective in Salem, say they've gotten harassed by phone for the name mix-up.

Those businesses say they have nothing to do with OG Analytical.

Days earlier, OG Analytical's Bethany Sherman issued a statement saying she's not a neo-Nazi but that she is proud to be white.

Sherman also said she would resign and sell the company she founded, which verifies pot potency and pesticide contamination.

 

[OregonBorn]

Well, its not just Oregon. During the last big El Nino in California, a guy named Al Nino in the San Jose area was getting calls from people telling him he was to blame for the flooding. I mean, really? It was on the local news when I was living there.

 

[Oregonism]

lol

 

[mushroombrew]

That's hilarious!

I can see some sweaty guy fumbling through a phone book....

"I'm gonna tell this Al guy straight!"

ahahaha!!

 

[OregonBorn]

Yes, El Nino & Al Nino apparently sound the same thing to non Spanish speakers. I had heard many times on the news that El Nino was to blame for the flooding that year. So since El (or Al) Nino was to blame, better look him up in the phone book or online and give him an ear full.

I guess no one had better be named anything like Santa Anna or El Diablo, the names given to the fall winds out of the east in southern and northern California, respectively. They are going to get a lot of bills for the fire damage down there this year.

 

[Robrites]

Fire destroys offices of Portland pot grow company

Fire destroys offices of Portland pot grow company

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Fire early Wednesday morning destroyed the offices of the Green Earth Dispensary in Southeast Portland.
Fire crews were first dispatched about 6:45 p.m. Tuesday to the complex at Foster Road and 111th Avenue.
A faulty ceiling fan in a bathroom caused a fire that sent flames through the roof. That fire was extinguished quickly, but not before a faulty hydrant required 500 feet of hose from a second hydrant. A downed communication line also hampered efforts.
Then about 1:50 a.m. Wednesday, East Precinct patrol officers reported heavy flames on the roof of the same building. The building was engulfed in flames where firefighters arrived. They used defensive tactics to keep the fire from spreading to adjacent buildings.
Investigators were trying to determine why the fire may have rekindled.
“The investigators will be out here later to take a look at the nature of that, whether it was a rekindle,” said Portland Fire and Rescue Captain Louisa Jones. “Obviously that’s always at the top of everybody’s list.”

 

[OregonBorn]

Minor decoys being sent in by the OLCC

Minor decoys being sent in by the OLCC

According to my brother who holds several different OLCC cards, any OLCC minor decoy cannot lie to get into a dispensary or to buy liquor (or now also cigarettes). So you can just ask them if they are old enough to buy liquor, or pot, or smokes. Or you can ask them if they are over 21. Any answer other than to what you asked, like "Do I look 21?" then simply refuse them. Usually there will be an adult 'handler' lingering around with the decoy someplace nearby within eyesight.



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Portland, OR -- The Oregon Liquor Control Commission has conducted the first of its statewide minor decoy operations to determine if marijuana license retailers are complying with state laws and OLCC regulations ensuring minors aren’t able to enter the business to purchase marijuana products.​

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On December 19, 2017 OLCC marijuana inspectors visited 20 marijuana retailers in central Oregon, and all of the 20 businesses visited in Bend and La Pine passed a check for prohibiting sales to a minor volunteer.​

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“That our licensed retailers in central Oregon scored 100 percent on refusal to sell marijuana to a minor is a sign that this segment of our regulated industry understands the importance of compliance,” said Steve Marks, Executive Director of the OLCC. “As we continue these checks I hope that this result will be reflected across the state.”​

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Sale of marijuana products to anyone under the age of 21 is a violation that for a first offense could result in a 10 to 30 day license suspension, or a fine of $1650, depending on whether or not the sale is intentional. Failure by a marijuana licensee, or its employee, to check a customer’s identification before the attempted purchase of a marijuana product is a violation that could result in a seven (7) day license suspension or a fine more than $1100.​

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During the sales checks, a minor volunteer attempts to enter a licensed marijuana retailer and/or purchase marijuana products from a licensed business to see if staff are checking ID’s correctly and refusing entry to anyone under 21. Commission inspectors supervise the minor volunteers. The volunteers carry their own legal ID that identifies them as under 21 and do not disguise their age or lie to encourage the sale of marijuana. The Oregon Driver license for a minor carries a red border around the picture with the words “Minor Until” followed by the date of his/her 21st birthday.​

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The OLCC tests licensed marijuana businesses throughout the year, with each licensed retailer receiving a minimum of one visit per year. The OLCC offers a free training course on how to check ID’s and identify false identification.​

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“This is part of our stepped up compliance and enforcement activity,” said Marks. “We’re working to make sure that all segments of our regulated market are living up to the requirements of their license, and the expectations Oregonians have that they will act responsibly and follow the law.”​

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[PDX Dopesmoker]

First Oregon Weed Thread post of the new year! Happy new year to yall, the old one has been dead for almost five days now, we can probably start smoking it.

Has anyone looked at the recently updated (again) weed laws. The Dec 28 update looks like it has some significant changes that might actually not suck balls entirely. Of course being ball suck specialists over at the OLCC most of the rule still blow, but they now seem to have a framework to set up legal tours of cannabis facilities which sounds like it could be fun and is somewhat opposite the direction of treating marijuana like its as dangerous as plutonium which is an annoying habit I think.

Of course now that the Cole memo is gone the reasoning for the existence of any regulation is also gone as the "we won't fuck with your state if you make and effort to prevent out of state trafficking" agreement is no longer. Imagine the money to be made if the state set up a legal framework for shipping the stuff out. If people paid state taxes on the pounds they were selling to Indianapolis, Nashville or Richmond they would even have insurance to some extent against federal money laundering prosecution.

 

[OregonBorn]

Most of the stuff I have gotten from the OLCC has been about Hemp lately. Also more on the Dec. 15 deadline, declaring and moving from OHA medical to OLCC licensing, or staying with OHA and implementing the CTS.

As for the feds, Mj remains a schedule 1 controlled substance, so any interstate trafficking of weed will be dealt with hard by the Feds. Never mind state and local prosecution inside the states that have kept it illegal, like Indiana, Virginia and Tennessee. Also as a schedule 1 drug, any and all money made by selling dope can still be legally seized by the Feds. Just ask many dispensary owners in California about that, where the Feds raided them, did not bust anyone, but had them open the safes and took ~all~ the cash. Which is why no bank will do any business with a 'legal' marijuana related business. Never mind the RICO laws, which are still pending in the court cases in Oregon against a grower or growers here. It is also one thing to make weed legal in the legislature, and another thing to uphold those laws in the courts. As an example of that, we have the ROCO laws that are being tested here in Oregon. Also at the federal level, Sessions is basically trying to force congress to change the laws on Mj or allow him to prosecute and uphold the schedule 1 laws as they exist today. For that I have to give him credit to kick the wankers in congress in the ass and force them to do something about the Mj drug scheduling.

As a schedule 1 drug, limited clinical testing and studies can be done with marijuana. As a schedule 1 drug, no prescriptions can be legally written for it. As a schedule 1 drug, any and all monies made by selling weed can be legally confiscated by the Feds. As long as this remains in place, we are not going to get much farther at the state level. So we need more states to legalize weed. As it is now, 29 states now have made Mj legal either as medical or rec, so there is a majority. However, to get an amendment passed for the Constitution, like happened to create alcohol prohibition and repeal it, you need a 2/3 majority of states to ratify it. So that means 33 states with legal weed of some sort to force the issue down the DEA and fed's throats. Like happened to end of prohibition. So what we need is 4 more states to legalize medial weed and force the issue from the state level up. Or get congress to act... and pass a federal bill legalizing it, or in the least, move it to a schedule III classification.

 

[OregonBorn]

By the way, 6 states may have ballot or legislative measures this year for legalizing rec Mj, including VT, NJ, MI, DE, RI and CT. Also AZ may have another go at it. However, those states already have legal medical Mj, so the effect at the national level is not as great as say if OH were to legalize weed. OH also has a large population and one more state would make the ratification count 30. More important IMO is OH rec and 4 other states that are now considering medical Mj laws, including OK, KY, SD and MO. If I was putting an effort or money into the system to force a change om Mj, I would focus on OH, OK, KY, SD and MO. It also looks like Tennessee is allowing decriminalization of weed in several cities there. So TN could also be on the favorable ratification list along with VA that will possibly decriminalize weed this year. So it may be that we o over 33 states with rec, medical or decriminalization Mj laws. The feds and congress cannot ignore that.

So this year may be the tipping point for legal weed with decriminalization or legal medical/rec weed in more states.