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[Robrites]

Temporary Administrative Rules

Temporary Administrative Rules

Temporary testing rules effective through May 30, 2017

http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Documents/rules/333-007%20064%20TEMP%20text%2012-02-16%20and%2012-15-16%20consolidated.pdf

http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Documents/rules/333-007%20064%20TEMP%20Need%20and%20Justification%20testing%20rules%20effective%2012%2015%2016.pdf

http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Pages/legal.aspx#temp

 

[Big Sur]

Yah, anyone wanting to grow rec weed here under license better have an army of lawyers to figure out all the legalese.

 

[frostqueen]

Yah, anyone wanting to grow rec weed here under license better have an army of lawyers to figure out all the legalese.

I went into one of our top dispensaries here in Portland and asked them what a certain rule was about clone purchases - basically how many - and the budtender looked at me and said: "We honestly have no idea. The law changes all the time."

Oregon and the OLCC have screwed the pooch in so many ways. I can't believe they haven't been sued by now. The OLCC head should be thrown out on his ass.

 

[Aota1]

It's 4 clones per person/year (for now and is nonsense for 50 reasons) recreationally but I agree whole heartedly with your assessment of the olcc. An interesting thing I've recently learned about the large amount of fails on extracts since October 1 (not even talking about the labs bottleneck) A lot of fails are for variance issues moreso than high pesticides counts. They check 12 'pieces' of every sample and if the numbers vary too much it fails. They did recently ease the allowable variance this week but they shouldn't have had it like that in the first place. A lot of these regs make sense on paper but not in reality and they're learning that. They shouldn't have instituted new regs until a specific amount of accredited and licensed labs were in operation. The olcc wants homogeneous slabs dagnabbit.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

I went into one of our top dispensaries here in Portland and asked them what a certain rule was about clone purchases - basically how many - and the budtender looked at me and said: "We honestly have no idea. The law changes all the time."

Oregon and the OLCC have screwed the pooch in so many ways. I can't believe they haven't been sued by now. The OLCC head should be thrown out on his ass.

The OLCC head is a political appointee and our governor would never embarrass the single party government by admitting to even the slightest amount of fallibility. Everyone in Salem has been aware of Steve Marks' "abilities" from before day one, and anyone who has been following the news realized a long time ago that Marks' job is secure regardless his performance. He lied under oath to the state Senate and they tried to sweep it under the rug instead of hitting him with contempt. That was after he was busted from DUII. You're not naïve enough to think that the good 'ol boys club let one their own go to jail, are you?
Our only hope is that he kills himself driving drunk ASAP

 

[Robrites]

Marijuana delivery in Portland up for vote next week

Marijuana delivery in Portland up for vote next week

Portland could be opening its arms to marijuana couriers.

The City Council on Wednesday added a license for delivery-only cannabis businesses to a marijuana regulation plan up for a vote next week.

Businesses operating as "marijuana retail couriers" would not be allowed to sell from storefronts, under proposed changes to Portland's pot rules approved Wednesday by the Portland City Council. And they could receive orders only from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with no deliveries allowed after 9 p.m.

Like dispensaries and marijuana retailers, couriers would have to keep their headquarters at least 1,000 feet from a school -- although they could still deliver to homes that are closer. They also must follow current rules that keep pot businesses at least 1,000 feet apart.

The City Council voted unanimously on the courier change and other amendments, billed in city documents as a way "to increase the opportunity" for "microbusiness entrepreneurs" hoping to break into the marijuana market.

"It's great to see small businesses starting in the community, trying to do this the right way, and working with us trying to figure out the regulatory issues as we go along," Mayor Charlie Hales said.

The city also added three other licenses to match the licenses the Oregon Liquor Control Commission will add, one for growers who cultivate no more than 625 square feet of marijuana, another for those who grow up to 1,250 square feet and a third for "micro-wholesalers" who buy seeds or immature plants from other micro-producers for resale.

Other amendments included changing hours of operation for marijuana businesses to match the state's hours, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m., and adding a five-day grace period for medical dispensaries to transition to retailers once they obtain a state license.

Portland created its Marijuana Policy Program to manage complaints and enforce local and state laws after Oregon voters approved recreational marijuana in November 2014.

The city has had a backlog of applications over the last few months, officials said Wednesday.

The Office of Neighborhood Involvement, which manages the application process, has received 534 license applications. Of those, 28 percent came from Southeast Portland, 22 percent came from east Portland, and 13 percent came from North Portland.

About 100 licenses have been approved, but many marijuana businesses are waiting on building permits so they can move forward.

Of the 320 applications under review, 80 are waiting for the city to complete a final inspection or final application review.

About 115 business owners have requested a deadline extension, and most are waiting on building permits, Livability Programs Supervisor Theresa Marchetti said at Wednesday's hearing.

The council unanimously agreed to remove a requirement for final inspections and an approved building permit for wholesalers, retailers and dispensaries, in part to help relieve the backlog.

"There was some concern in the media about lots of businesses being found out of compliance and shut down January 1," Commissioner Amanda Fritz said. "As long as there are good faith efforts that they're in the process, that is not going to happen. We appreciate most businesses are working their way through the process"

Update Dec. 15: A previous version of this story incorrectly said that City Council unanimously approved new marijuana business regulations. City Council approved amendments to those regulations. They will vote on whether or not to adopt them next week.

 

[Robrites]

Oregon revises marijuana testing rules yet again; industry facing major Jan. 1 deadli

Oregon revises marijuana testing rules yet again; industry facing major Jan. 1 deadli

Oregon this week continued to tweak its marijuana testing rules, hoping to ease a backlog and get flowers, oils and cannabis-infused snacks and treats into the medical and recreational markets.

The Oregon Health Authority issued yet another set of revised rules Wednesday that in essence reduce the number of required tests for potency, solvents and pesticides.

The rules don't change the type of tests required, though Jeff Rhoades, a senior adviser to Gov. Kate Brown, told a panel of lawmakers this week that the state is considering replacing the pesticide testing system in favor of a looser approach used in agricultural crops.

Apples, grapes and hops, for instance, undergo random sampling for pesticides before they land on grocery store shelves.

"That is the approach we are looking to take eventually with cannabis," said Andre Ourso, manager of the medical marijuana program at the health authority.

Under Oregon's standards now, marijuana is subjected to frequent and comprehensive testing at multiple stages, from flower to oils.

The state will re-examine its testing requirements early next year, Ourso said.

Norris Monson, CEO of Cultivated Industries, a Portland-based marijuana producer, processor and retailer, said he's experienced long delays getting his products back from labs.

He said he's begun to spend more for expedited testing so he can move his flower and extracts more quickly. He figures he gets three to four calls a day from shops desperate for products.

"A lot of them have nothing on their shelves anymore," he said.

Meanwhile, marijuana growers, processors and stores are approaching a key deadline. Medical marijuana businesses that want to deal in the recreational market have until Jan. 1 to make the switch.

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[Robrites]

 

[Aota1]

The main argument I've seen against looser standards, more like those for ag crops, is that we are smoking herb, not fruits and vegetables. Our bodies can break things down through ingestion a lot better than inhalation. I think the variance loosening will help. Flower hasn't been failing

 

[aridbud]

Too bad the pie chart only shows 5% for Oregon Health Authority. And wondering if proceeds are being divided up as per chart.

 

[Robrites]

Man. Thank God. It is starting to warm up.

Tonight

Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around -8. Wind chill values as low as -23. West wind 7 to 11 mph.
Partly Cloudy

Lo -8 °F
Partly cloudy, with a low around -8. Wind chill v

 

[HorseMouth]

Shit Robrites, do you live on my dirt road, off another dirt road?

That's my forecast.

Peace

I used my snow blower for 5 hours yesterday. Fully 2 feet of snow on the ground. Mt. Jefferson is a puff ball, HooDoo has best snow in 20 years.

 

[Sluicebox]

Avalanches on hwy 20 near Hoodoo. I've lived here 30 yrs and never heard that hwy being closed due to avalanche.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Avalanches on hwy 20 near Hoodoo. I've lived here 30 yrs and never heard that hwy being closed due to avalanche.

Thats the B&B fire zone, its probably more prone to avalanches now than it was before the fire.

 

[Abja Roots]

The main argument I've seen against looser standards, more like those for ag crops, is that we are smoking herb, not fruits and vegetables. Our bodies can break things down through ingestion a lot better than inhalation. I think the variance loosening will help. Flower hasn't been failing

I keep hearing this argument. If you can eat mcdonalds and drink soda, should it really matter if people want to smoke something. God knows that sugar, stress, and unhealthy food are killing people more than any cannabis ever will.

 

[Robrites]

Oregon marijuana ads flourish on Craigslist

Oregon marijuana ads flourish on Craigslist

It started with making marijuana products at home for herself and her husband. Then, she thought, "People might buy these."

The woman, who lives in Keizer, figured she could make money off a medical marijuana-filled, holiday-themed gift box.

The gift box had pot-infused body butter (“to rub on achy muscles”), massage oil (“perfect for the bedroom”), a 4-by-5 inch Rice Krispie edible and other treats. She makes it all herself and is proud of the body butter. She said it helped her mom's foot arthritis.

The box costs $100. "I just thought it’d be a fun thing for Christmas,” she said.

She posted an ad for the pack, as many have done for marijuana in Oregon, through the online bazaar Craigslist.

As Oregon growers, processors and dispensaries in the legal cannabis business navigate state regulations and shortages on the marketplace, some people are looking to the online shopping website as an outlet for moving their pot.

Craigslist ads for marijuana are flourishing in the state, whether barterers want to trade for money or goods.

Here's a sample of posts the Statesman Journal found on the website: The holiday basket. Half an ounce of buds for $40 of groceries in Estacada. And in one instance, a Lebanon Craigslist user writes they will trade “a few ounces of marijuana” for three Hatchimal toys, which have been highly coveted this holiday season.

That user, who did not give their name, said in an email the toys were for their kids.

"I don't think it should be illegal to barter marijuana now that it's legal," the user said. "I mean that's the same as saying people that have a hunting (license) can't trade or sell some of their meat to people for something they need or want."

Even though Oregon has legalized marijuana, selling it online is against the law.

Case in point: Oregon State Police cited Jason Owen, of Sandy, after he tried to trade 1 pound of marijuana for a snowmobile in October.

A state trooper owned the rig and met with Owen after consulting other law enforcement officials. Police cited the 29-year-old for possession and delivery of marijuana. In his vehicle, Owen had 1 1/2 pounds of marijuana.

"Marijuana sales need to occur at an approved dispensary per statute," said Cpt. Bill Fugate, a spokesman for the State Police. That means the Oregon Liquor Control Commission or Oregon Health Authority has to approve the dispensary.

Oregon law enforcement officials call for relaxed drug-possession punishments

In September, the Oregon Association Chiefs of Police and the Oregon State Sheriffs' Association called for "a more thoughtful approach to drug possession when it is the only crime committed."

The associations said there should be more treatment options for drug possession-related crimes, and there should be fewer felony charges handed out; they should be treated as misdemeanors.

Paige Clarkson, trial team leader for the Marion County Attorney's Office drug team, said she didn't know of any investigations on Craigslist marijuana sales. She said there would have to be an investigation before the District Attorney's office would give a response.

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[Bradley_Danks]

I know of a guy who used to post ads on Craigslist and people would try to jack him occasionally. After he got robbed at gunpoint he gave it up. But he met a lot of good people besides a few bad from what I heard.

 

[Oregonism]

I miss Budbook......

 

[Phenome]

If only we could start homegrown farmer markets. Allow trade with no permits for places like Craigslist and public events. Probably will never be allowed though sadly.

Craiglist used to be great back before rec.
It was a grey area legal market if you were med. Now, it's a gamble.
Craiglist is going to be referred to as stinglist after enough people get hit.

 

[Oregonism]

Now it will just go back to the same way for the last 40 years on vetted word of mouth....

Makes me laugh about a comment in the Reason article from a couple days ago on Oregon
s scene...the comment alluded to how over the last few decades the black market not only survived but thrived all the while being essentially hunted....now with the market trying to be "legalized"....its dead in less than 18 months...

i still believe in the farmers market model too, just back to the old model vetted word of mouth ....lol