Breeding/cloning whorled phyllotaxy plants!

[MangueBeat]

Hello friends! I've been growing weed for almost 20 years and this is the first time I've taken this mutation, and I've had two in a row!
If everything goes well, I might want to keep this mutation and then I have some questions: if I cross these two mutant plants, will the daughters inherit the trait? And in the case of cloning, is the trait passed on to the clones as well? I've read a lot of controversial things about this type of plant... some say they're better, that they yield more, others say they're not, I'm anxious to see how they turn out!

I know the plants are still too young for me to think about cloning or crossing them, but I think it's a good idea to seek information before I need to use it, so that when the time comes I'll already know what I need to do.

These photos are from the beginning, the plants have different ages, about 12 days apart, I need to check the records. The smallest one had an accident when the pot fell at the beginning which delayed it.

**EDIT**

In the image below, the two plants sharing a sunny day outdoors, I kept them in small pots as much as I could to gradually control their growth:

The newest one:

The oldest one:

 

[phunkeeboodah]

used to get the odd whorled bud in the 90's in some outdoors, the ones that look like a house centipede. always less potent than the rest of the bag

 

[Dime]

Sometimes they grow out of it after a few sets of leaves,it's unstable ,fleeting and you may see it again in offspring or may only see it the few times you have and most times they are males

 

[MangueBeat]

Sometimes they grow out of it after a few sets of leaves,it's unstable ,fleeting and you may see it again in offspring or may only see it the few times you have and most times they are males

These two are feminized. I intend to reverse it with colloidal silver if all goes well.

 

[revegeta666]

It's much too soon to assume anything about the plant's morphology. Most likely this plant just skipped a leaf. This happens often.

 

[Maledikchaouch]

Hi,

Your plant is a tricotylédon . The plant will grow 3 branchess at each node. It often returns to a normal phyllotaxy when(if) it starts growing new branches in a alternate phyllotaxy.

I know some French growers who tried to breed it, but it seems that the mutation was non-transmissible.

Sorry if my English is too crappy, but I try not using a translator

 

[MangueBeat]

It's much too soon to assume anything about the plant's morphology. Most likely this plant just skipped a leaf. This happens often.

The mutation is very solid... I saw some reports that after the 4th or 5th node the plant would return to normal, but neither of them did. The older one is producing the 11th node and the younger one the 9th node. Both have a very consistent mutation at the top, all the nodes are triple. The older and taller one has bright bluish-green leaves to the naked eye, a beautiful shade. Both plants require more nitrogen than the "normal" ones, it is clear that they are hungrier, after all they produce 1/3 more plant tissue than the others. I really want to be able to cross one with the other soon and see what happens. For now I am afraid of pruning and losing the mutation. I have read conflicting information about this, some say that the mutation is lost with pruning, others say that it passes to the lateral branches after topping or fimming. I am curious to know how a clone of it (from an axial branch) would do, if it would develop the mutation as it grows or not...

As you can see in the photo below, both plants maintain the solid mutation:

The oldest one in the photo below has incredible vigor and requires a lot of nutrients, she is very hungry!

The top of this plant is incredible beautiful.

The youngest one is also hungry and also very vigorous.

 

[Airloom]

The mutation is very solid... I saw some reports that after the 4th or 5th node the plant would return to normal, but neither of them did. The older one is producing the 11th node and the younger one the 9th node. Both have a very consistent mutation at the top, all the nodes are triple. The older and taller one has bright bluish-green leaves to the naked eye, a beautiful shade. Both plants require more nitrogen than the "normal" ones, it is clear that they are hungrier, after all they produce 1/3 more plant tissue than the others. I really want to be able to cross one with the other soon and see what happens. For now I am afraid of pruning and losing the mutation. I have read conflicting information about this, some say that the mutation is lost with pruning, others say that it passes to the lateral branches after topping or fimming. I am curious to know how a clone of it (from an axial branch) would do, if it would develop the mutation as it grows or not...

As you can see in the photo below, both plants maintain the solid mutation:

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The oldest one in the photo below has incredible vigor and requires a lot of nutrients, she is very hungry!

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The top of this plant is incredible beautiful.

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The youngest one is also hungry and also very vigorous.

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All of your questions can only be answered by you; which is one of the main reasons we do this.

You can develop your own markers and methods. If you have the time and curiosity, you may discover outcomes no one else can predict or affect!!

I think that’s exciting AND it’s fun to base your decisions on your own observations. Many times history is re written by those willing to ask why and how and also willing to do the work.

 

[MangueBeat]

All of your questions can only be answered by you; which is one of the main reasons we do this.

You can develop your own markers and methods. If you have the time and curiosity, you may discover outcomes no one else can predict or affect!!

I think that’s exciting AND it’s fun to base your decisions on your own observations. Many times history is re written by those willing to ask why and how and also willing to do the work.

Yeah bro! It has been interesting to grow these special plants. The problem has been my fear of handling them. Their "normal" sisters have already been pruned, trained, cloned... But I still haven't had the courage to do anything with these mutant ones. I really want to try cloning the tops to see if I can duplicate them and keep the mutation in both the mothers and the clones, but I'm still afraid to do it.