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[Robrites]

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Portland pot tax could raise $5 million

Portland Commissioner Amanda Fritz said Wednesday she's planning to ask voters to approve a pot tax this fall that could raise up to $5 million annually.

Fritz announced plans for the marijuana tax at a budget session on Monday.

Extra money in the future? @AmandaFritzRN says City Council may ask voters to approve a pot tax on November ballot.
— PDX City Hall Watch (@cityhallwatch) May 16, 2016

But on Wednesday, she put more details to her plan, saying a 3 percent local tax on marijuana could raise between $3 million to $5 million a year.

Fritz said she'll ask the City Council to help propose a spending plan for the money, hoping to entice voters to approve the tax. The ballot measure would be decided in the Nov. 8 general election.
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She [the city] doesn't even have a clear need or use for the tax money. She plans to dig up things to do with it so people will vote for it.
That's bogus.

 

[whadeezlrg]

so 4 plants is fine and up to 8 plants is a misdemeanor/fine...and 8+ plants is a felony with up to 5 yrs...my question is, obviously there are plenty of people growing more than 4 plants....is anyone sweating anything right now? are people getting rolled with 4-6kw and 30 or so plants? I mean, people gotta eat while all of the paperwork is in flux right? I would think that issues of this kind would be complaint driven and not so much following people home from grow shops/scanning power usage...

how difficult is it to get a medical rec in or as opposed to ca?(if anyone has experience with both)

filling up a 4-6 light canopy would be possible with only 4 plants, although it certainly would complicate any small scale commercial aspirations...especially considering the veg time involved in growing that size of trees.

 

[HL45]

Whadeezlrg..Certain counties primarily east of the cascades are still very conservative about pot. Those areas are more likely to give you a conviction.


It is a bit more difficult than ca to get your card, but not too much depending on your choice of pot doc..but since everything is registered through the state it takes longer for your physical card to arrive. One time it took 3 months to get mine.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

so 4 plants is fine and up to 8 plants is a misdemeanor/fine...and 8+ plants is a felony with up to 5 yrs...my question is, obviously there are plenty of people growing more than 4 plants....is anyone sweating anything right now? are people getting rolled with 4-6kw and 30 or so plants? I mean, people gotta eat while all of the paperwork is in flux right? I would think that issues of this kind would be complaint driven and not so much following people home from grow shops/scanning power usage...

how difficult is it to get a medical rec in or as opposed to ca?(if anyone has experience with both)

filling up a 4-6 light canopy would be possible with only 4 plants, although it certainly would complicate any small scale commercial aspirations...especially considering the veg time involved in growing that size of trees.

I think the rule formally is 4 flowering plants

 

[Sluicebox]

4 flowering is my understanding as well.

To grow medical you have to be a two year resident.

To grow rec you have to have friends in high places, lots of money to pay others off, and no residency required.

Did anyone see where that City Councilman voted no on pot issues, then went and opened his own shop? Medford I think it was.

We have no protection from them raising fees or changing regs. $4500 this year could be $45000 next year. I expect they'll take the medical count down by half, and raise fees. Being how everyone got sucked into selling to the rec. All that extra, do you really think they're going to let you keep producing extra? I must be doing this wrong cuz I really don't have too much extra. My patients get most of what I produce. Card runners are the ones who have been throwing all the excess at the market and now we're about to pay for it. Grab your ankles.

 

[Phenome]

so 4 plants is fine and up to 8 plants is a misdemeanor/fine...and 8+ plants is a felony with up to 5 yrs...my question is, obviously there are plenty of people growing more than 4 plants....is anyone sweating anything right now? are people getting rolled with 4-6kw and 30 or so plants? I mean, people gotta eat while all of the paperwork is in flux right? I would think that issues of this kind would be complaint driven and not so much following people home from grow shops/scanning power usage...

how difficult is it to get a medical rec in or as opposed to ca?(if anyone has experience with both)

filling up a 4-6 light canopy would be possible with only 4 plants, although it certainly would complicate any small scale commercial aspirations...especially considering the veg time involved in growing that size of trees.

Getting a card was extremely easy in Portland. If you got medical records that show you fall under one of the applicable issues, all you really need is cash to pay the bud doctor, and the state. No experience in Cali so can't help you there.
I'm not sweating nothing. When hb3400 passed and we are all now required to send in info of our plant amounts and everything under the sun, I said whatever looks like I'm going back to The good ol days.
I don't think too many people are getting rolled on now...I think right now is more of a information collection term that will be followed by large scale search and seizure.
Just my opinions, not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers.


Like you said, unless you're running over 6k watts I really wouldn't worry.

 

[whadeezlrg]

fwiw I used to live in PDX close to 10 years ago, and I'm familiar with Oregonians distaste for their brothers from the south...

I'm aware that growing 4 plants per residence is legal, that being said I want more than 4 plants so I was just kind of outlining the penalties of growing more than 4 just to put it in perspective...and from what I gathered 5-8 plants is a slap on the wrist and 9+ is looking like a fairly stiff penalty(9+ to what extent I do not know, CA doesn't give the case to feds unless its 100+ plants)

I though a person could grow medical for themselves without the residency requirement? at least that was my understanding.

sluice- I'm not sure if you follow along with whats going on down here in CA, but the points you mentioned will all be happening down here except on a much more expensive scale...and if AUMA doesn't pass than AB266 provides the means of dismantling the entire mmj system in CA before there will be another opportunity to vote in a favorable rec bill. The fluidity of all of the laws is definitely a bit unsettling, but who knows how the next 10 years will shape everything...gotta be willing to jump through hoops and adapt if this is something we're dead set on I suppose...change will always be inevitable.

 

[Phenome]

fwiw I used to live in PDX close to 10 years ago, and I'm familiar with Oregonians distaste for their brothers from the south...



I though a person could grow medical for themselves without the residency requirement?

I thought there was a 2 year residency requirement to be eligible to apply for an ommp card.
Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not positive.

that's cool you used to live here, yeah it seems there is a lot of hate against California, I'm neutral.

 

[Sluicebox]

Whadeezlrg, I think you may be right on being able to grow your own med. They might make you wait to grow for others. Regs change all the time, never for the better. The only thing they did that I agree with was change the rules on smalls and possession limits. I also like that packing weight in the state is now just a misdemeanor. If you can grow your own med and your house gets 4, you can pull off multiple plants if you buy the cards. What I mean is you have to grow your 6, your wife grows her 6 etc. as long as you don't exceed the count for your location, 48 mature medical plants rural, not positive on city limits. If done right you can pull off sea of green, flip new plants into flower 2 weeks before first set of mature plants are done, and so on. I may be totally wrong on this so do your own research.

I know I've said some negative stuff and that may have looked directed at those growers from out of state. It's not you folks that I'm upset with at all. If you want to come here then I welcome you. It's big corp that I have a problem with, and the paid off politicians.

 

[whadeezlrg]

thanks for the insight sluice, I'm definitely doing a lot of research....and as for embracing out of staters...I loved oregon before going there to grow was ever a thought, I can totally relate when it comes to big money/out of state big money coming in and changing things...that's what prop 215 did here, and all of the weed shows on tv for the last 15 years made CA into a weed destination, and that certainly played a role in the 25% give or take drop in prices, and definitely played a role in the overall reduced quality of what entered the market...so I get it, I really do. I just want to be there because 1) I love it there, and 2) I need some peace of mind when it comes to cannabis & family...that's the big one, and it's tricky...I'm sure some of you can relate.

btw- <<<<<< Gold prospector here, looking forward to dredging up some pnw color! creeks are very season in socal, and littered to death...and the best gold is in the middle of the desert....and I'm not a big fan of drywashing LOL

 

[TheSilverMullet]

Torn on whether to drop my one patient of 10 years. Dude has lymphoma and says cannabis has kept him alive longer than he or the doctors expected.

He's got no money to buy weed from a dispensary, especially not in the quantity he consumes annually.

I really don't want to do reporting and deal with possibility of inspections.

I guess I have just a few more days to decide. This really sucks.

 

[Robrites]

First Wholesaler Among Newest Group of Licensees

First Wholesaler Among Newest Group of Licensees

OLCC Approves Recreational Marijuana Licenses
First Wholesaler Among Newest Group of Licensees

May 20, 2016

Portland, Oregon – The Oregon Liquor Control Commission has approved 14 Recreational Marijuana producer and wholesale licenses.

The producer licensees include:

Kit Johnston, (MariCo Farms) – Mixed, Tier 2, Yamhill County
Sol-Sisters, Inc. (Sol-Sisters) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Polk County
Mountain Sun Botanicals, Inc. (Mountain Sun Botanicals) – Mixed, Tier 2, Jackson County
Oregon Grown Organics LLC, David Tourzan (Oregon Grown Organics) – Mixed, Tier 2, Jackson County
Oregon Roots Inc. (Oregon Roots) – Mixed, Tier 2, Washington County
Pilot Farms, LLC, Matthew A. Dolinar (Pilot Farms) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Jackson County
Harlen Magnie, Thomas Pretorius (H&H Gardens) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Jackson County
Patricia Downing (Elvenwood Enterprises, LLC) – Outdoor, Tier 1, Josephine County
Trichomes Gardens Limited, James Newgard (Trichomes Garden) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Washington County
Jefferson State Farms LLC, Benjamin Yuma (Jefferson State Farms LLC) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Jackson County
Oregon Roots Inc., James Stitch, Trichomes Gardens Limited, James Newgard (Oregon Roots) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Washington County
Trailhead Farms LLC, Dave Henderson, Terry McDowell (Trail Head Farms) – Outdoor, Tier 1, Hood River County
The Clone Brothers, LLC (The Clone Brothers) – Outdoor, Tier 2, Clackamas County

The licensees approved today include Tier 1 and Tier 2 outdoor and mixed cultivation growers. Tier 1 outdoor growers are allowed to have a plant canopy up to 20,000 square feet, and Tier 2 outdoor growers are allowed to have a plant canopy between 20,001 to 40,000 square feet. Mixed cultivation growers are allowed to have a combined indoor and outdoor canopy using a ratio so the total canopy does not exceed the tier designation.

The annual fee for Tier 1 growers is $3,750, and the annual fee for Tier 2 growers is $5,750.

The wholesale licensee is:

Kit Johnston, (Marico Farms) – Yamhill County

The annual license fee wholesalers, labs, processors, and retailers is $4,750.

To date the OLCC has received 977 applications for Recreational Marijuana Licenses and the Commission has approved 26 licenses.

 

[Nobody'sNursery]

Why don't all the growers in Oregon unite under the "right to grow on private property" argument and over turn these bullshit laws? Why not demand proof of injured party or damaged property as a fundamental requirement for conviction?

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Portland pot tax could raise $5 million

Portland Commissioner Amanda Fritz said Wednesday she's planning to ask voters to approve a pot tax this fall that could raise up to $5 million annually.

Fritz announced plans for the marijuana tax at a budget session on Monday.

Extra money in the future? @AmandaFritzRN says City Council may ask voters to approve a pot tax on November ballot.
— PDX City Hall Watch (@cityhallwatch) May 16, 2016

But on Wednesday, she put more details to her plan, saying a 3 percent local tax on marijuana could raise between $3 million to $5 million a year.

Fritz said she'll ask the City Council to help propose a spending plan for the money, hoping to entice voters to approve the tax. The ballot measure would be decided in the Nov. 8 general election.
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She [the city] doesn't even have a clear need or use for the tax money. She plans to dig up things to do with it so people will vote for it.
That's bogus.

Yeah this is fucking offensive. Why does every **** in government think that its the responsibility of the cannabis industry to make up for their budget shortfalls? We're already saving the state tons of money by (mostly) not being in prison.
She doesn't even have a plan for the money, she just wants it because she thinks she can get it. The booze people seem to have this kind of crap somewhat under control, how do they do it? 25% is already robbery, but dope smokers are so meek after decades of being threatened with jail that most of us don't seem to mind.
No coincidence that this was announced just a few days after she was reelected to a 4 year term.

 

[disruptfulninja]

This is still a federally illegal substance. Until it is removed from the CSA no one really has any arguement for the right to grow anywhere, unless you have enougg money to fight the political machine

 

[Robrites]

This is still a federally illegal substance. Until it is removed from the CSA no one really has any arguement for the right to grow anywhere, unless you have enougg money to fight the political machine

BullShit.

 

[Robrites]

Yeah this is fucking offensive. Why does every **** in government think that its the responsibility of the cannabis industry to make up for their budget shortfalls? We're already saving the state tons of money by (mostly) not being in prison.
She doesn't even have a plan for the money, she just wants it because she thinks she can get it. The booze people seem to have this kind of crap somewhat under control, how do they do it? 25% is already robbery, but dope smokers are so meek after decades of being threatened with jail that most of us don't seem to mind.
No coincidence that this was announced just a few days after she was reelected to a 4 year term.

Put This in a letter to the editor and send it off to the Oregonian.
You have good writing skills - you make sense - DO IT!

 

[Nobody'sNursery]

This is still a federally illegal substance. Until it is removed from the CSA no one really has any arguement for the right to grow anywhere, unless you have enougg money to fight the political machine

Cool story. Lol

 

[Nobody'sNursery]

It seems to me that Oregons pot farmer community is being plundered by these politicians and law makers and no one is even objecting. So now they are all just going for it becuase they see there is no resistance.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Put This in a letter to the editor and send it off to the Oregonian.
You have good writing skills - you make sense - DO IT!

I will, but it won't do a thing about the fact that our industry doesn't have the kind of lobbyist teeth that the other "vice" industries do. Amy Margolis seems more bent on giving all the Oregon Cannabis PAC money to the members of the Democratic party who want to tax us than she does on preventing these taxes. If we can organize and find a an enemy politician or three to target politically and take their seat away (or at least threaten it) in November then the politicians will fear us enough to stop fucking with us like its no big deal. Until then they think they can act like Robin Hood stealing from us evil druggies and handing out (buying votes with) the money to pretty much anyone who isn't a horrid noncontributing member of society like us druggies (noncontributing that is over and above normal taxes that we all pay plus the additional $50million+ that we're letting them take from us this year).

Sorry if this rant wasn't long enough, but its Sunday so I gotta go get in my Rolls Royce now and do some drive-by shootings of orphanages