Dognponyshow
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who cares where it came from, I'm trying to find out where that real deal is at NOW-a-days. i havent had a cut since 2004 that fit the bill.
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The OG Pic Gallery an attempt at documenting every legit OG out there pics only!
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StankyBeamer
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Simple genetics bro. A clone only is a specific phenotype. Self crossing creates similar plants, but finding one with the exact same chromosomal profile is neigh impossible. S1's are not the same thing as clones. If you could fuck yourself and reproduce, would all your children be clones of you? Or perhaps a more realistic analogy, why don't all human siblings from the same parents come out identical? Because of genetic variation. The ocean grown story is bullshit perpetuated by a seed company selling a strain with the old world Paki in it, so they could sell more seeds. Og was the name applied to the bubba crews "kush", because they didn't know there were kush landraces strains, they thought they made up the term, they just called their clone kush, and people tried to name other strains kush because of the success their cut, so people started calling it og kush to distinguish it as the original. It was a bag seed of unknown origin found in high quality herb that didn't have a nickname. It is a viney, stretchy, floppy plant that throws a lot of three bladed leaves and golf ball sized nugs that don't stack well. Smells ridiculously loud, and is of the highest potency.
Here's a pic of the real deal
And here's a pic of Josh d's og for all the naysayers who wanna doubt what I have is legit
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StankyBeamer
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expealadocious
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I thought the s1seeds would just show their own genetic expressions but would actually contain the same genes....
The growth of the plant you're describing is the reason I'm playing around crossing this chem dog that has become my favorite as far as in the pipe.
Its the dankest herb but the growth is leggy, vine like, big stretch in flower and its kind of golf ball structured bud wise. Looks really similar to your top photo. Funky fuely smell...
What does what you're describing smell like?
Back in the mid 90's when I was crossing random seed plants with my father, we we really surprised with the accidental scent profiles we'd never seen available anywhere before.
From super fruity citrus to... well.. literally cat piss type smells.
I think in one way or another, some funky gems will always arise from someone somwehere
The growth of the plant you're describing is the reason I'm playing around crossing this chem dog that has become my favorite as far as in the pipe.
Its the dankest herb but the growth is leggy, vine like, big stretch in flower and its kind of golf ball structured bud wise. Looks really similar to your top photo. Funky fuely smell...
What does what you're describing smell like?
Back in the mid 90's when I was crossing random seed plants with my father, we we really surprised with the accidental scent profiles we'd never seen available anywhere before.
From super fruity citrus to... well.. literally cat piss type smells.
I think in one way or another, some funky gems will always arise from someone somwehere
Dude, what? There are many types of bananas.
This post makes no sense at all. When you start learning about the different types come back. Damn I dont even know if you like long or short bananas.
StankyBeamer
Professional A$$hole
There's plenty of gems everywhere. That bud in the top picture smells like strawberries and oranges and kerosine, and tested 23%thc, 24.5% total cannabinoids. Og smells very similar to chemdawg, but chemdawg isn't as viney or floppy as og, real chemdawg is a little sturdier and definitely stacks into bigger kolas than og. Chemdawg, sour diesel, and og are the three most commonly faked and hardest to find clone only strains on the planet. It's why I haven't even tried to find a real cut of chemdawg. Any time anyone of unscrupulous morals finds a plant with a lemon diesel nose they try to pass cuts as chemdawg for big bucks. Same with og, which is why there's a whole thread about legit ogs, also why me and a few others found your comments to be slightly irritating. But now your a little more informed than you were before. Shit, I don't even consider myself to have a fraction of the story, just had my ass schooled on real og by theDOCTA, even tho I've got the real deal
Dognponyshow
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i disagree entirely with chemdog smelling just like OG. real deal OG from the 90s in the 818 smells like bud that was blasted with RAID-- straight up DANK. Chemdog is definitely loud with that floor cleaner chemical back note.
Matt is now coming out of the woodwork with the alleged bagseed suppliers for his bubba/og and apparently they have a tale to tell also. my gut tells me it was a commercial import from the westcoast that hit florida and then remigrated westward and blew up in the hiphop scene.
I digress, I've yet to personally see a bonafide OG cut (no s1 or fem) since 2004 (Assasin cut). I know it's out there tho, it'd be chill to take a toke and jump into the time machine since bud brings back memories.
Matt is now coming out of the woodwork with the alleged bagseed suppliers for his bubba/og and apparently they have a tale to tell also. my gut tells me it was a commercial import from the westcoast that hit florida and then remigrated westward and blew up in the hiphop scene.
I digress, I've yet to personally see a bonafide OG cut (no s1 or fem) since 2004 (Assasin cut). I know it's out there tho, it'd be chill to take a toke and jump into the time machine since bud brings back memories.
Dognponyshow
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beautiful looking cultivar tho Beamer.
StankyBeamer
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Bro the pics under the top pic I posted are the sfv I grow. The bottom pic is Josh d's og, who, if the docta isn't full of shit, worked with Matt from florida. My sfv has identical calyx formation, too close to be an s1. I've grown og s1's. What I have IS legit. It's loud af and fits the bill and came from a very trustworthy and well connected source. I'd say the real sfv qualifies as a bona-fide og. Seriously tho, the bottom pic came off of Josh d's instagram @therealogkushstory.
Don't believe me? Thedocta is the one that repped that post, and trust me, he didn't do it because he likes me, he'd be the first to chime in that I'm growing a fake. If THEDOCTA clicked "did you find this post helpful" on a pic of what I have as sfv og, and didn't flame me for having bullshit cuts, I'm satisfied that it's bonafide. I dont necessarily like the dudes attitude but he definitely knows more about og than me, and apparently knows Josh d personally.
Dognponyshow
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I dig dudes attitude, he's not gonna pull the punches and he knows what he's talking about. i know josh posted that pic... of lowers... lol. his og yeilds schnicely, trust.
glad that you have some firey og nugs to medicate with stanky.
glad that you have some firey og nugs to medicate with stanky.
expealadocious
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That og story about bagseed origin... The chem dawg had a story about a similarly unknown origin.
It puts more faith on finding a new gem by random chance...
"Find your own elites" is what people should encourage then.
The chem dog im running is from greenhouse which is something they claim to have made and not the original. People were saying that was a guise tho and that it was the original and supplied by apothecary. Its all hearesay to me... but whatever it is it's super dank. The only thing ive grown that was nastier was that trainwreck but it was a vine!
It puts more faith on finding a new gem by random chance...
"Find your own elites" is what people should encourage then.
The chem dog im running is from greenhouse which is something they claim to have made and not the original. People were saying that was a guise tho and that it was the original and supplied by apothecary. Its all hearesay to me... but whatever it is it's super dank. The only thing ive grown that was nastier was that trainwreck but it was a vine!
StankyBeamer
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Don't buy from greenhouse. Arjan is a liar and a hack. If you want good genetics in seed form there are plenty of humble breeders out there that don't charge $100 a 5 pack and call themselves the "king of cannabis" for selfing a few clones that aren't even what they're advertised to be
ive popped a lot of og seeds, ive grown a lot of legit og's. whle some og lines ae better than others in seeds, none are as loud or as loud og's as the original cuts,
Triangle kush
sfv
lhb
legends
true og
ghost
fire
they all have a single thing in common and
ive never found a single og bean that was as loud with the pure smell that they all have in common in their smell profiles. its that pinesol lemon skunky og smell.not much else but subtleties that make them unique. these old classic og cuts are the only thing similar to themselves. the og seedlines smell of og and are very reminicent but not as purely as loudly og as the best originals. they do on the vine sometimes but not in the bag. not totally. similar and very dank. the best seeds i ever popped were og seeds by karma and tha docta. closest seed representations ive personally seen. ive seen hundreds of og seed phenos. never one as "og" as the ones i just listed.where they came from and why no one can produce a seed line that will spit out new elite og's at a regular enough clip, i dont know. but if i had to grow from seed and had no access to og cuts id start with one of their seed lines. they get close but its not quite the originals.
Triangle kush
sfv
lhb
legends
true og
ghost
fire
they all have a single thing in common and
ive never found a single og bean that was as loud with the pure smell that they all have in common in their smell profiles. its that pinesol lemon skunky og smell.not much else but subtleties that make them unique. these old classic og cuts are the only thing similar to themselves. the og seedlines smell of og and are very reminicent but not as purely as loudly og as the best originals. they do on the vine sometimes but not in the bag. not totally. similar and very dank. the best seeds i ever popped were og seeds by karma and tha docta. closest seed representations ive personally seen. ive seen hundreds of og seed phenos. never one as "og" as the ones i just listed.where they came from and why no one can produce a seed line that will spit out new elite og's at a regular enough clip, i dont know. but if i had to grow from seed and had no access to og cuts id start with one of their seed lines. they get close but its not quite the originals.
expealadocious
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No doubt... I never gave them a dime. My brother gifted me a clone a couple years ago and it became a favorite. It sure is dank though
StankyBeamer
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Dank can be found in all seeds, which is why I don't shell out top dollar anymore, I'd rather reverse a cut or select a new male. Clone, however, are worth some paper if they're legit. I grew the lhb for awhile, about to get it back, I've got the ghost, sfv, and skywalker, all super dank. The mitten og I posted is lhb x motarebels twisted fruit v2. The lhb is so dank that with an untested male, the first plant to go to the lab hit 23%, all females found from the first 7 seeds popped were keepers in their own right. Rare dankness does og in seed form well. Karma too. I havent tried archive gear, but from ThaDocta's galleries it looks like his og gear puts out flame as well.
Martha Focker
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i hear you guys talking about lemon and pinesol og...but everywhere else and older guys all say the og smell is an earthy musty smell. not lemons or pines. i had some og when i first came down here to the land of the original crippy and it was chunky sticky and smelled like earth not pines, barely a hint of anything citrus or lemon. mostly an earthy funk.
also i don't understand all the hate on GHS, seems to me they must be producing some good shit if they're still in business and i still see people with SSH and SLH and this guy even says the chem was fire. so why the hate? i'm guessing people don't like arjan calling himself king of cannabis? i hear he's won a ton of cups and sold millions...why can't he claim king of cannabis? i recall similar hate for the prince of pot. but a lot of you wouldn't even be growing weed without arjans and marc emerys. maybe you're too young or forgot what it was like 20 years ago in the world of pot?
also i don't understand all the hate on GHS, seems to me they must be producing some good shit if they're still in business and i still see people with SSH and SLH and this guy even says the chem was fire. so why the hate? i'm guessing people don't like arjan calling himself king of cannabis? i hear he's won a ton of cups and sold millions...why can't he claim king of cannabis? i recall similar hate for the prince of pot. but a lot of you wouldn't even be growing weed without arjans and marc emerys. maybe you're too young or forgot what it was like 20 years ago in the world of pot?
StankyBeamer
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Ok, Arjan is an asshole because his seeds are not what he sells them as. Greenhouse is one of quite a few companies that buys seeds wholesale, then repackages, and sells retail. When you see super silver haze, it's probably an old cut from before Neville and Shantibaba left, as for the SLH, it's their only, and I mean ONLY strain that holds relevancy. Cannabis cups mean nothing if they have the initials "HTCC", high times cannabis cups are sold to the highest bidder and have nothing to do with the quality of the herb or breeding skills, very rarely does a strain win by merit alone. Also, even if it was judged on quality, the cup winning plant was chosen from thousands of seeds specifically for the cup, and your chances of finding something similar in a 10 pack are to put it lightly miniscule. And to call yourself the king of a plant that existed millenia before you were born, and will continue to do so for millenia after you die, is simply arrogance, so yes, Arjan is a piece of shit, and I will never purchase a pack of ghs. Not to mention, when Neville and Shantibaba left, they took all their parental stock with them, but somehow Arjan is still selling strains under the same names. He is doing so by either replacing the parents with random unrelated bullshit and taking advantage of the good rep nev and Shantibaba built up for the strains, or simply producing seeds from parents selected from leftover seeds Shantibaba and Neville didn't take, which to do so without labeling as such is shitty, not only because F2s produce a huge amount of variation and instability, but more so because without the clones used to make the strain in the first place, it's not the same strain. Also, they do not actual breeding. Watch the strain hunters videos on youtube, they get all preachy like they're preservationists and hype up all these landraces they go after, talking all kinds of shit about how their going to use them exclusively to make Strain hunters seeds, then release a bunch of lazily bred polyhybrids garbage made out of the same shit everyone in cali already has. I'm sorry but if you say your gonna make landraces genetics available to the public, then just release a bunch of afgooey, green crack, and og hybrids, you are a misleading asshole. Not to mention I doubt Arjan actually uses real cuts, their probably s1s, or totally unrelated to the cuts advertised. Rant over.
StankyBeamer
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Also, different og cuts smell different. To answer your question, Tahoe OG is earthy musky without much lemons, sfv and ghost are more citrus pinesol with a similar earthy undernote. As for all the other cuts I can't say, because here in michigan, unless you got the clone from a trustworthy source and grew it yourself, you can safely assume any og you run into is bullshit. I've been sold pounds of sfv soooo many times that was swerves bullshit, even tho I told the dudes I didn't want it unless it was real sfv not cali connect, only to waste my gas money and time to check out a pound of some airy, bland, lackluster bullshit that was obviously nowhere near the real thing.
expealadocious
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I get a really earthy smell and taste from the "bubba kush" im running from DNA.
Heavy body stone too...
So anyway I do like their chem dog, whatever it really is... its super dank.
I have a single plant cross with it made from reversed chem pollen to a strain called "bubblegummer" by a dutch company called female. It looks really healthy so far and im hoping for something unique taste wise
Heavy body stone too...
So anyway I do like their chem dog, whatever it really is... its super dank.
I have a single plant cross with it made from reversed chem pollen to a strain called "bubblegummer" by a dutch company called female. It looks really healthy so far and im hoping for something unique taste wise
I gotta chime in on this post. Yes GHS sells seeds that are selfed versions of the cuts. But...... the only strain I have run from them, that didn't live up to my expectations was their trainwreck.
I have run 21 strains from GHS, and always had nice plants. A lot of them came from single seeds. I found a SLH plant that looked identical to the one they use for pics. Smelled just like they said it would, and finished in the time they stated as well.
Another thing is their seeds are really quite affordable. I see prices of $100 for 10 seeds, not 5. Even then most of their catalog is priced a lot cheaper than that.
The problem now-a-days is that people let the owners attitudes, and disposition speak for the seeds, when the seeds are the ones that should be speaking for themselves.
