The Official Hempy Bucket Thread

[RoachClip]

I use a small plastic measuring tube used to measure nutes or a spray bottle as their very small and fragile at a crucial time until their stems get thicker and you transplant but remember the per/verm will stay moist for a few days but just check them daily. I also use small all in one peet pellets and just drop it in your per/verm but it all depends on you.

other growers can also way in and help with their methods...

 

[Bonavendura]

@ Suspect
as posted by RoachClip check them daily and use a spay bottle when needed , one
think is for sure if you create mini Hempy's with your party cups they will
survive for sure 2 days without you near by , check my sig's log to see how and
how fast they sprout.


hi Hempiers of icmag ,
I have almost finish my first Hempy round and i would like to bring back an
issue that i try to discuss earlier here on this forum.


Three months now i was trying to understand the behavior of the
solution inside the Hempy's res by simply tilting the bucket until
i can take some runoff to measure.

First of all did any of you try this or you didn't realy bother ?

Anyway my conclusion after a lot of mesurments is that

At the begining of the Plants life maybe the first 6-7+ weeks
if you are
feeding lets say 0,8 EC and 5,6 ph
inside the res you are going to have
lower EC and higher ph cause the roots eating nutrients.

At some point in the plants life as the nutrients slowly
accumulate in the medium
if you are
feeding lets say 1,2 EC and 5,8 ph
inside the res you are going to have
higher EC and lower ph cause higher EC drives the ph down.


What do you think about all this Hempiers ??
give me some help here.

 

[dubwise]

@suspect:I germ my seeds directly in the medium (1/2" below surface) of the mini hempy cups (~12oz.) and they remain until they go into their final pot. One transplant.
@bona: I've been looking at the runoff more intently know that you brought that to light. It makes sense to keep an eye on things coming out as we do the things going in. Thanks to you!

 

[deviant1]

@bona- what is it that you need help with, cuz that's exactly what I have found to be going on inside the buckets? Sounds jus about right.

 

[Bonavendura]

Your experience on this , that's exaxtly what i am looking for.
Finaly i would like to manage a guidline that i will run
in every grow session.

Let me give you an example i am now veging the next round
Idealy i would like my Veging solution inside the hempy res
to be 0,5 EC and 5,5 ph.
I am feeding 0,4-0,6 EC and 5,4-5,6 ph the runoff that i am
taking tilting the bucket is 0,1-0,2 EC and 6,3-6,5 ph.
So i will feed 0,8-1,0 Ec and 5,3 ph trying to fix
the internal res .

Finaly i would like something like a rule that i will use.
Like

feed a bit heavier and lower ph the first 7 weeks
feed a bit lighter and higher ph after that.

Sorry....all this caused by my hydro backround and
addiction to play with with ph and ec meters

 

[dubwise]

I've gotta get this out

I've gotta get this out

I don't have an EC meter yet, but I've got to tell you about my most recent experience. I've switched a few months back to using Maxibloom + Epsom Salt for the entire grow and things are much better. While fighting with a temperature issue which stressed them out a bit, most of them, still thrived with this simple and inexpensive nutrient schedule. I love gardening and it is very motivating to see such enthusiasm in plant development and learning...Learning is so good for the soul, as is gardening. Here's my point....though it is excellent to learn and try to make the garden perfect...simplicity and time enjoying the the fruits of our labor is excellent too. Since switching to this way of gardening and this way of life, I am much more at peace with these wonderful blessings.

 

[deviant1]

@bona-it sounds to me like you have a handle on what's going on! Id say try out that schedule you suggested, that sounds alright...don't use any kinda salt whatsoever, plants do not like salts! That's the reason for flushing.

 

[Suspect]

@Bona I tried the 60/40 per/verm mix for seedlings, was quicker than I expected.
Will do this from now on, made a mistake in my grow already, planted the seedlings in the final pots, which are way too big. Gotta wait for them to kickstart a little longer now I guess.

 

[Hydropimp]

@dubwise what is you water source and e.c and ph?

How much epsom do you use?

 

[Helis]

I too am using Maxibloom in my Hempy's, all the way through.
No epsom salt for me as my tap water has enough cal-mag.

Bonaven, I have noticed the same sort of thing... It's like you need to pre-load the hempy cups and let it even out over time.

Also I ditched perlite/vermic mix a long time ago because it is messy. I use 100% hydroton in my hempy cups and have noticed no growth differences between those plants and ones in perlite/vermic.

Happy gardening!

 

[dansbuds]

If a do a hempy bucket, with the hole about 3cm from the bottom, and fill upp with about 5-6cm of perlite, then add 2cm of soil and then 2cm of perlite and continue like that til the top.
Can i then use nutes for soil?

Keat .... adding soil for nutes in my opinion is a waste of time . it will help feed the upper roots but hempys are passive hydro ... in that it uses the 2" rez at the bottom for its main feeding . you fill the hempys so that you get little to no runoff & thats where your plants mainly feed from . yes like i said some upper roots will feed off the nutes above the rez but most feeding is done from the rez .

 

[dansbuds]

Three months now i was trying to understand the behavior of the
solution inside the Hempy's res by simply tilting the bucket until
i can take some runoff to measure.

First of all did any of you try this or you didn't realy bother ?

Anyway my conclusion after a lot of mesurments is that

At the begining of the Plants life maybe the first 6-7+ weeks
if you are
feeding lets say 0,8 EC and 5,6 ph
inside the res you are going to have
lower EC and higher ph cause the roots eating nutrients.

At some point in the plants life as the nutrients slowly
accumulate in the medium
if you are
feeding lets say 1,2 EC and 5,8 ph
inside the res you are going to have
higher EC and lower ph cause higher EC drives the ph down.


What do you think about all this Hempiers ??
give me some help here.

while i appreciate all your hard work & the information your giving us here . is nice to know whats going on in the rez for the plants sake .but i'm kinda with dubwise on this as i also switched to the maxibloom per Lucas for its simplicity . i use 1tsp per gallon & 1tsp of General organics calmag cuz i run RO water & am using earth juice PH up (99.9% potassium bi-carbonate ) to get my PH in check ....& thats it . i don't really worry about EC or any runoff . & things are going fantastic for my hempys . I like to think of it as Lucas did all the work for us figuring out what the plants need from start to finish . I'm not saying your work is a waste of time ... it works for you so you can understand better whats going on in your plants situation . I'm to old & lazy with too many other things to do .... that Hempys & maxi per Lucas are as easy as it gets . add blumats into the equation for watering ...& its almost set & forget .

growem green & stay safe ......Dan

 

[keat]

Keat .... adding soil for nutes in my opinion is a waste of time . it will help feed the upper roots but hempys are passive hydro ... in that it uses the 2" rez at the bottom for its main feeding . you fill the hempys so that you get little to no runoff & thats where your plants mainly feed from . yes like i said some upper roots will feed off the nutes above the rez but most feeding is done from the rez .

But some of the dirt should follow the water/nutes down to the rez and also the roots.
Or maybe not, thats why i aksed

 

[RoachClip]

I was thinking of changing my grow from Hempy's to 100% organic but now that I was Introduced to MaxiBloom and can use it growing hempy I might just stay with what I know and just see what happends and dealing with organic soils bugs are a reason it turns me off and even with hempy theirs a risk of getting them dealing with soil or organics it's much higher risk so when i'm back set up with MaxiBloom in hand we will see how this shit works

 

[dubwise]

@Roach-I don't think you'll be let down at all. The switch for us has been excellent. Check out the KISS thread and you'll see a bunch of folks who have used this simple one part with amazing results. Dansbuds throws some wonderfull pictures of the work he's done. Truly inspiring.
@hydropimp-I don't know the ec, but our water supply is from a deep (500') rock well and the water has some calcium in it. I use the epsom salts now because at first attempt with the MB I had defs and several folks on the KISS thread advised to try the epsom salt...I did and it has worked very well.

 

[dansbuds]

so when i'm back set up with MaxiBloom in hand we will see how this shit works

@roachclip
dub is right .... your gonna love it dude !!!!

 

[marywanna2]

i also switched to the GH maxibloom @ 1.5 tsp/gal last summer... wonderful results and very simple to prepare...

interestingly, only the plant receiving the most light needed epsom salts added and they were all clones...

also noticed the ph seemed lower using GH dry nutes as opposed to liquid...

the dry nutes are also cheaper to ship...

 

[CyrilSneer]

i also switched to the GH maxibloom @ 1.5 tsp/gal last summer... wonderful results and very simple to prepare...

interestingly, only the plant receiving the most light needed epsom salts added and they were all clones...

also noticed the ph seemed lower using GH dry nutes as opposed to liquid...

the dry nutes are also cheaper to ship...

marywanna2 .. do you happen to know the EC of your mix using 1.5 per gal? With my tap water I'd easily be over 2.0

 

[Bonavendura]

I would like to try the KISS method too guys ,
not only for the easy part but for the cheap part.
Unfortunatly Maxibloom is not available from
General Hydroponics Europe




So i will stick to Lucas for now.

 

[dansbuds]

also noticed the ph seemed lower using GH dry nutes as opposed to liquid...

yeah mine too mary .... drops my ph down to the mid 4's i started using G.O. calmag (using RO) & it brings it back to mid 5's for me .