The Nevils Haze and Nevils Haze hybrids discussion thread.

[Elmer Bud]

Nope, you're not getting these to finish at 13/14 weeks even if grown in winter, nothing in the F1s came in before 16 weeks and my picks were from memory as it was decades ago now were 19 weeks an above.

I am running an EC of 1.1 to 1.2 my PH is around 6 to 6.2 and these are just extremely Haze expressive.

These are being flowered under 9/15.

I remember your grow log of Shanti`s testers .
I read it a few years back on OG .
Did you have a problem with the timer for the lighting on that grow ?

I also remember JessE asking if he could use his parakeet guano on his plants . LOL .

 

[@hempy]

I remember your grow log of Shanti`s testers .
I read it a few years back on OG .
Did you have a problem with the timer for the lighting on that grow ?

I also remember JessE asking if he could use his parakeet guano on his plants . LOL .

You're full of shit Elmer and always were, why come here to troll me in my last remaining thread ?

Nothing you posted above is factual, the last seed I tested for Shanti and I did a grow thread on was Afghan Haze, and that was over at Mr Nice years ago.

You were not around when I tested the original F1 Mango Haze (the forums were better for it too) so do all of us a favour and fk off.

 

[@hempy]

I am so sick of the trolls in this forum, why allow these set individuals to trash people's threads ?

 

[Elmer Bud]

You're full of shit Elmer and always were, why come here to troll me in my last remaining thread ?

Nothing you posted above is factual, the last seed I tested for Shanti and I did a grow thread on was Afghan Haze, and that was over at Mr Nice years ago.

You were not around when I tested the original F1 Mango Haze (the forums were better for it too) so do all of us a favour and fk off.

Well the old Over Grow forum was resurrected Hempy .
And I did read your grow log and JessE`s too . And I seem to remember your lighting timer had problems .

Legit questions . Because you went on a lot about the length of flowering .

So would you like to apologise ?

 

[@hempy]

Well the old Over Grow forum was resurrected Hempy .
And I did read your grow log and JessE`s too . And I seem to remember your lighting timer had problems .

Legit questions . Because you went on a lot about the length of flowering .

So would you like to apologise ?

Like I said, you're full of shit, I have never done a growth thread at the old or new Over Grow.

 

[Elmer Bud]

Like I said, you're full of shit, I have never done a growth thread at the old or new Over Grow.

OK maybe I have the name of the forum wrong .
But , I did read your grow log and JessE`s so don`t try and say I didn`t . And I do remember the timer problem detail .

It was the seed test for Shantibaba before Mr Nice seeds had a web site . It`s been a few years since I read it but i did read that grow log .

So saying nothing I said is factual is in itself non factual .

 

[@hempy]

You didn't read the Mango Haze test seed thread, you're full of it, and you're only posting here to cause drama and to trash my thread.

You're so predictable, and it's sad that a grown man has the need to act the way you are here and have for a long time.

The current Mango Haze grow from my F2s has been fully documented and updated weekly from germination to now from the time they were put into flower all of it so those that have followed it know what I posted is fact.

This constant trolling and trashing of my threads in Icmag needs to stop.

 

[CannaT]

Nope, you're not getting these to finish at 13/14 weeks even if grown in winter, nothing in the F1s came in before 16 weeks and my picks were from memory as it was decades ago now were 19 weeks an above.

I am running an EC of 1.1 to 1.2 my PH is around 6 to 6.2 and these are just extremely Haze expressive.

These are being flowered under 9/15.

I dont know every Haze hybrid seeds from Mr.Nice is written that flowering time of their Haze hybrids is 10-14weeks. And if they go above 14 it need to be culled.

 

[mr.brunch]

I dont know every Haze hybrid seeds from Mr.Nice is written that flowering time of their Haze hybrids is 10-14weeks. And if they go above 14 it need to be culled.

If I’m correct, hempy had the og version before it was reworked to be faster.
Wish I had that patience

 

[@hempy]

If I’m correct, hempy had the og version before it was reworked to be faster.
Wish I had that patience

You are 100% correct.

 

[@hempy]

I dont know every Haze hybrid seeds from Mr.Nice is written that flowering time of their Haze hybrids is 10-14weeks. And if they go above 14 it need to be culled.

Why would a plant because it flowered over 14 weeks ?

These plants are not the same as the released version.

 

[William76]

Thought hempys timer fuckup was with nevs haze?,and it wasnt that long ago i dont think.maybe im wrong.76

 

[@hempy]

It was the Nevil's Haze when I made the last batch of seed and made the Deliverance.

 

[William76]

I think mr nice was talking about nevs haze,wen he said,anything over 14 to 16 weeks to cull as they arent practical for indoors.76

 

[@hempy]

I don't grow sativas or heavy sativa hybrids for them to be practical, I grow them for a specific high and from my experience all the keepers have always been the long flowering ones, Sam said the same thing as did Nevil.

 

[bigherb]

Description of Nevilles Haze from mr nice

I think mr nice was talking about nevs haze,wen he said,anything over 14 to 16 weeks to cull as they arent practical for indoors.76

A tribute to the father of all modern seed companies, Neville Schoenmakers. There is something very special about this 3/4 sativa that those in the know will recognize once they smell the end product. It can be difficult to know what to base your selective reasoning on, but the plants that go longer than 16 weeks indoor will really not be of value in the end to indoor cultivators.A tip for those who do find a long flowering plant they wish to keep...clones usually finish 2-3 weeks quicker than the seed mother plant and therefore will give the grower a possibility to finish something that normally needs the tropics to grow in.

 

[bigherb]

Little update on what I am up to with the Mango Haze F2s, week 18.

These are 50% Haze and as I said before they behave like pure sativas I had someone try and tell me Nevil's Haze work was tame, clearly they haven't grown the genetics I have.

I harvested one at week 18 of flower that could have gone a few more weeks or just over 20 weeks, but it got too overcrowded, and she was wedged in a corner.

No1 harvested.

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Yes it was me , don't be afraid to disagree or speak the truth . It's healthy to have open convo speak our piece and move on if we don't agree .

Hempy I said Nevils Haze was tame in my experiences from seed .Compared to Original Haze

Not here to argue just express my experience and opinion respectfully . We learn by sharing our opinions and experiences. I came to the forums long ago to learn thats why I'm still here

I've just checked the Mr Nice forum . The data base section . NEVILLES HAZE GROWS there are about 10 grows from the latest until 2023 many picture and different phenos

There is not one of what most would consider a Extreme NLD/ Sativa

Soo whichever lines
(untested/ private /beta) you grow cannot be Compared to the lines available to the public which is the topic of conversation

Kinda like comparing our NYC HAZE with most other Haze . I told you long ago how special and different it is

On topic of your F3 I don't know the science but , my common sense is to go with the thought of the majority that breeding 3 generations will give plants leaning /based on prior selections

My Nevilles Haze were All from seed plant 2008 if I recall Stock . Interestingly in theory in my experience the seed plant should stretch more and flower longer than the clones . Soo I can imagine even more Tame indoor friendly growth from clone

After my second Original Haze run in a cooler more dialed in Tent . My structure, Trichomes production , flowering time , flower structure were all different and much better in every category

I wonder if the manipulation of your hours is the cause of your growth and long flowering

You have mentioned a 7 hour lights on cycle . You said this is 9 hr lights on currently?

Have you grown your NH and MH at the more traditional times 12/12 11/13 10/14 ?


1luvbigherb

 

[@hempy]

It can be difficult to know what to base your selective reasoning on, but the plants that go longer than 16 weeks indoor will really not be of value in the end to indoor cultivators.

You base your selection on one main criteria Herb, and that is they affect and like it or not the ones with that affect are the long flowering plants.

Now for indoor growers there are ways to control and minimise or if you like control how the plant grows, to make it more practical, but that comes at a cost being yield but most of us grow for the high so an extra 4 or more weeks is not even a consideration it is what it is.

 

[@hempy]

Hempy I said Nevils Haze was tame in my experiences from seed .Compared to Original Haze

Not here to argue just express my experience and opinion respectfully . We learn by sharing our opinions and experiences. I came to the forums long ago to learn thats why I'm still here

I think you are but happy for you to prove me wrong, herb.

I've just checked the Mr Nice forum . The data base section . NEVILLES HAZE GROWS there are about 10 grows from the latest until 2023 many picture and different phenos

There is not one of what most would consider a Extreme NLD/ Sativa

My seed were made in 1997 by Nevil.

On topic of your F3 I don't know the science but , my common sense is to go with the thought of the majority that breeding 3 generations will give plants leaning /based on prior selections

My Nevilles Haze were All from seed plant 2008 if I recall Stock . Interestingly in theory in my experience the seed plant should stretch more and flower longer than the clones . Soo I can imagine even more Tame indoor friendly growth from clone

Clones don't always come in faster in flower than the seed plant they came off and are you forgetting O Haze was at F10 over 2 decades ago, herb ? That is going by Sam him self.

I found two main sides to Nevil's Haze, those being HzC and HzA Thai side and a Colombian side, I preserved both even tho I am not a fan of the Colombian side.

All I am interested in is firstly to preserve the genetics and secondly to increase the number of keepers that pop up, that's it I am not interested in anything else.

I grow to smoke.

 

[@hempy]

F1 Nevil's Haze not even hit the mid-flower point.

Closer to harvest.

F2s flowered under 11/13.

F3s

I wouldn't call these Nevil's Haze tame, but I also wouldn't call them a practical indoor plant, either, no sativa is.