the Mexican Landraces Thread

[elchischas]

" I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars"
@Emperortaima most of us consider @elchischas to be the authority of Mexican and South American cultivars. His knowledge is encyclopedic.

Thanks brother, the words mean a lot to me
Many times, most people don't know how difficult it is to travel to isolated and remote places.
Here in this country, danger is around every corner, and if you ask about weed, well, you can imagine that my trips are always full of emotions.
Few people appreciate this type of seeds, sometimes I don't know if it's worth looking for them..
In the end, I think I do them more for myself, to give meaning to my life.

 

[Emperortaima]

Definately to me those are pure landrace type seeds, that's the kind of seeds i'll looking for

Those remain me some that i got on this peninsula area just i'm at northern part but Guatemala isn't really far from here
When you pay close attention to the shape of the seeds,
your memory recognizes certain similarities
There is no doubt that your seeds are similar to these ones that I found in a small Mayan community in the southern part of Yucatan
Obviously, in the photographs, you can't say that they are very similar, because the details in the photos always create very presuasive effects, the type of photography is different as well, and the amount of light, but I am definitely sure that they are relative in some way
If both types of seeds were in the same photo (yours and mine) it would be difficult for most people to distinguish them
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My seeds
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Yesterday all the day i was traveling to isolated places to search more seeds
I spend almost three years here looking in vain, just hybrids seeds everywere
It was only when I rethought my method of looking for seeds that everything changed
Now there are interesting things to work with.
I found these seeds yesterday
Just the shape, size, color of what I really looking for
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Thank you for educating me I am very curious now if these will be some quality narrow leaf or broad leaf cultivar? Very excited! If you pop yours before I do mine best believe I will subscribe to your run

 

[elchischas]

Thank you for educating me I am very curious now if these will be some quality narrow leaf or broad leaf cultivar? Very excited! If you pop yours before I do mine best believe I will subscribe to your run

I think its nld type, no doubt about it

If you have the chance try to play with it
I don't really know when i'll be able to play with the mine, fortunately i got shitloads of interesting seeds

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Chischas que onda con tu compa landracer3 afirmando un supuesto origen libanes de las landraces oaxaqueñas con supuestas pruebas historicas que no presenta, dice que según eres su "mentor" y que se las sabe todas todas. Al chile estoy hasta la madre de cultivadores gringos que creen saberlo todo de las oaxaqueñas sin haber puesto un pie en Oaxaca y solo cultivan adquisiciones de otros y afirman que ya se perdieron las oaxaqueñas landrace, MENTIRA a pesar de que se estan introduciendo hibridos todavía hay varias comunidades que siguen cultivando unicamente sus variedades tradicionales. Yo se que el sol sale para todos y que este el mame gringo de landraces y el varito siempre viene bien, Chischas pero al chile si se trata de preservar estariamos tu, yo y la banda mexicana que hace esto haciendo lo posible por hacer algo así como lo que hace el wey de Zomia, incentivando a los cultivadores originarios a preservar sus semillas,y que ellos mismos se asocien para vender sus semillas directamente, la unica forma viable de preservar landraces es en sus comunidades de origen

 

[Emperortaima]

Gosh, what's up with your friend landracer3 claiming a supposed Lebanese origin for the Oaxacan landraces with supposed historical evidence that he doesn't present. He says that according to him you are his "mentor" and that he knows it all. I'm fed up with American growers who think they know everything about Oaxacan landraces without having set foot in Oaxaca and only grow acquisitions from others and claim that the Oaxacan landraces have been lost. LIE. Despite the fact that hybrids are being introduced, there are still several communities that continue to grow only their traditional varieties. I know that the sun rises for everyone and that this gringo mame of landraces and the wand always comes in handy, Chischas but to the point if it is about preserving there would be you, me and the Mexican band that does this doing everything possible to do something like what the guy from Zomia does, encouraging the original growers to preserve their seeds, and that they themselves associate to sell their seeds directly, the only viable way to preserve landraces is in their communities of origin.

I am confused who is this directed towards?

 

[OntologicalTurn]

I am confused who is this directed towards?

For Chischas, I don't know why your translator translated Chischas as "gosh". He already answered me privately.