the Mexican Landraces Thread

[ThaiBliss]

elchischas,​

Thanks for making this thread. It's one of the very best. I've seen so many nicely cured old school looking buds here, it makes me yearn for the good old days when Mexican was king in the U.S. in the 60s. Very good vibes from many of those Mexican buds.

I'm in Costa Rica now. I have been gifted some seeds from Mexican weed. My friend thinks they might be Oaxcan. The seeds are fairly large with very little mottling. They remind me of Thai seeds actually. The buds were a light golden brown, but I didn't get to try them. I'll grow a plant next season. If they look good, I'll post pics of them here and get your input.

Thanks again.

 

[bloyd]

Mextiza x Highland Mexican/BB cured buds. I've been searching lots of old/new seeds and it was really hard to make evaluations of most as these jars always took precedent. Something about that Oaxacan just works for me. In general most modern smokers find the effects too ethereal to appreciate but it will always have a place in my heart.

Smells range but the darker, woodsy, leather, animalic scents have replaced brighter scents during growth on most. The bottom bud smells like blue dream x trainwreck and was unique amongst the pop. I grew.

I think the Mextiza brightened the effects and most don't have a heavy comedown like I experienced in the hmbb. My initial hmbb grow was well seeded and could have influenced effects. I think the hmbb subjectively increased the potency and brought some nice wood, leather, sharp blue line smells and vigorous growth.

 

[outsidegrower]

Has anyone seen the new Mexican landrace mandala seeds has? https://shop.mandalaseeds.com/collections/pura-seeds/products/mexicoatl-pura-seeds

 

[elchischas]

elchischas,​

Thanks for making this thread. It's one of the very best. I've seen so many nicely cured old school looking buds here, it makes me yearn for the good old days when Mexican was king in the U.S. in the 60s. Very good vibes from many of those Mexican buds.

I'm in Costa Rica now. I have been gifted some seeds from Mexican weed. My friend thinks they might be Oaxcan. The seeds are fairly large with very little mottling. They remind me of Thai seeds actually. The buds were a light golden brown, but I didn't get to try them. I'll grow a plant next season. If they look good, I'll post pics of them here and get your input.

Thanks again.

You more than welcome my brother

Unfortunately many good and rare mexican landraces gone because the paraquat attack
Then It was when the reign of the Colombians began
For mostly of old and new growers is hard to believe that still many pure landraces on México, but the reality is that still remain some
This season here in México there's a Lot of rain anywhere, as far i know by some people some of fast hybrids crops are ruined so that's maybe helps to understand why is better grow sativas again

 

[chestrub]

Has anyone seen the new Mexican landrace mandala seeds has? https://shop.mandalaseeds.com/collections/pura-seeds/products/mexicoatl-pura-seeds

Apparently they are a true heirloom. You just have to order them, plant them, observe the phenotypes and do the smoke test.

 

[Rgd]

s2 Oaxaca selection..

I need this one

 

[BumSplodgeBrownPants]

Has anyone seen the new Mexican landrace mandala seeds has? https://shop.mandalaseeds.com/collections/pura-seeds/products/mexicoatl-pura-seeds

I've got a pack of 10 regs in my cart, they have a sale on at the moment and it's too tempting.

I'm absolutely loving some of the Mexican crosses I've run recently and wouldn't mind having a dig next year into the "purer" parent lines and the Mex landrace types. There's just not too much out there to buy and some of the tales of the origins of the strains from the seedbanks are a bit dubious too.

Anyway, just dropped in to comment so I can follow along! Cheers folks.

Edit - Them beans aren't on sale dagnabbit! (But the Beldia I wanted are so I may give them a go.)

 

[elchischas]

s2 Oaxaca selection..

I need this one

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My dear Northener friend, how are you?

I need it too
I can't wait to work on it
There are already great expectations and plans for it

Here some photos of my last seeds hunt here at mayan peninsula.

 

[Emperortaima]

So I know there are people out here familiar with lines I am not too educated on. I have been researching as much as possible to see if I can discover for myself the origins of these genetics but I can not find anything that seems to help. I was going through my collection and seeing what I had aside from the Oaxacan Rainbow which has some Oaxacan Kush seeds with them that are most definitely hybridized oaxacan heirloom cross but I have here some Guatemala Lowland with nickname on the bag "valley girl" the seeds too are bigger and not small like most other mexican narrow leaf drug type cultivars anyone know anything on these?

 

[elchischas]

So I know there are people out here familiar with lines I am not too educated on. I have been researching as much as possible to see if I can discover for myself the origins of these genetics but I can not find anything that seems to help. I was going through my collection and seeing what I had aside from the Oaxacan Rainbow which has some Oaxacan Kush seeds with them that are most definitely hybridized oaxacan heirloom cross but I have here some Guatemala Lowland with nickname on the bag "valley girl" the seeds too are bigger and not small like most other mexican narrow leaf drug type cultivars anyone know anything on these? View attachment 19093728

Where you got those Guatemala seeds?

Right now i'm living on the South part of México, near here is Guatemala and Belice
The time I've been here I've understood a bit about the weed that exists in this part

an old-school stoner who has been smoking since the 70's
told me that he used to hear about three main varieties: red hair, orange air and sinsemilla
that's was the common nicknames at that time
I usually take a lot of photos of seeds and that way I can get an idea if there is any relationship between varieties from one area or another
until now my belief is that this whole peninsular area had the same varieties

It would be really nice to see photos of those seeds you have, maybe it can give me an idea of their origin.

 

[Emperortaima]

Where you got those Guatemala seeds?

Right now i'm living on the South part of México, near here is Guatemala and Belice
The time I've been here I've understood a bit about the weed that exists in this part

an old-school stoner who has been smoking since the 70's
told me that he used to hear about three main varieties: red hair, orange air and sinsemilla
that's was the common nicknames at that time
I usually take a lot of photos of seeds and that way I can get an idea if there is any relationship between varieties from one area or another
until now my belief is that this whole peninsular area had the same varieties

It would be really nice to see photos of those seeds you have, maybe it can give me an idea of their origin.

Yeah I can totally get a better picture of the seeds so that maybe you can see if you recognize the characteristics. I don't know exactly where it was located specifically I do know that there are lowland and highland areas in Guatemala the only details that came with this Guatemalan Lowland cultivar. I wanna know if these genetics are going to express broad leaf or be a special narrow leaf drug type. Thank you for chiming in

 

[Emperortaima]

Yeah I can totally get a better picture of the seeds so that maybe you can see if you recognize the characteristics. I don't know exactly where it was located specifically I do know that there are lowland and highland areas in Guatemala the only details that came with this Guatemalan Lowland cultivar. I wanna know if these genetics are going to express broad leaf or be a special narrow leaf drug type. Thank you for chiming in

The seeds aren't necessarily small/tiny like we know to be with Narrow Leaf Drug Types? I hope this can help although seed based alleles aren't always reliable it never hurts to know if you have ever had this particular cultivar. I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars

 

[Emperortaima]

I will also note too that these southern american cultivars were acquired by a friend out in Michigan who has a friend who lives in Mexico or a surrounding country and that is how he got these genetics. I don't have contact with him anymore but now gonna start hunting more lines from the southern americas like michoacan and panama red and colombian black or gold! I desire experiencing those lines to know the gems that those genetics carry

 

[ledo]

. I wanna know if these genetics are going to express broad leaf or be a special narrow leaf drug type. Thank you for chiming in

send them to me; I’ll find out 4 certain

 

[ledo]

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The seeds aren't necessarily small/tiny like we know to be with Narrow Leaf Drug Types? I hope this can help although seed based alleles aren't always reliable it never hurts to know if you have ever had this particular cultivar. I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars

SE Asians are large seeds yet very narrow leafed varieties, seed size has no guarantee - Colombians are generally very small but Charlie’s old Guatemalan iirc weren’t necessarily small so I wouldn’t rely on any seed size assumptions, only one real way to find out & those seeds aren’t getting any younger

 

[Emperortaima]

SE Asians are large seeds yet very narrow leafed varieties, seed size has no guarantee - Colombians are generally very small but Charlie’s old Guatemalan iirc weren’t necessarily small so I wouldn’t rely on any seed size assumptions, only one real way to find out & those seeds aren’t getting any younger

You are correct the seeds aren't going to be viable for a long especially if they were produced ie synthetic grown. Thanks on that 101 when it comes to seeds and the plants of the seeds. Maybe these would outcross nicely with my friends sour diesel bx or his gaseous clay?

 

[53grayeyes]

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The seeds aren't necessarily small/tiny like we know to be with Narrow Leaf Drug Types? I hope this can help although seed based alleles aren't always reliable it never hurts to know if you have ever had this particular cultivar. I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars

" I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars"
@Emperortaima most of us consider @elchischas to be the authority of Mexican and South American cultivars. His knowledge is encyclopedic.

 

[Emperortaima]

" I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars"
@Emperortaima most of us consider @elchischas to be the authority of Mexican and South American cultivars. His knowledge is encyclopedic.

Thank you for bringing that detail to my attention. I now know and will listen and learn

 

[sativanese]

The Oaxacans always look the coolest to me.

 

[elchischas]

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The seeds aren't necessarily small/tiny like we know to be with Narrow Leaf Drug Types? I hope this can help although seed based alleles aren't always reliable it never hurts to know if you have ever had this particular cultivar. I can imagine you could totally educate me when it comes to the southern American heirloom cultivars

Definately to me those are pure landrace type seeds, that's the kind of seeds i'll looking for

Those remain me some that i got on this peninsula area just i'm at northern part but Guatemala isn't really far from here
When you pay close attention to the shape of the seeds,
your memory recognizes certain similarities
There is no doubt that your seeds are similar to these ones that I found in a small Mayan community in the southern part of Yucatan
Obviously, in the photographs, you can't say that they are very similar, because the details in the photos always create very presuasive effects, the type of photography is different as well, and the amount of light, but I am definitely sure that they are relative in some way
If both types of seeds were in the same photo (yours and mine) it would be difficult for most people to distinguish them

My seeds

Yesterday all the day i was traveling to isolated places to search more seeds
I spend almost three years here looking in vain, just hybrids seeds everywere
It was only when I rethought my method of looking for seeds that everything changed
Now there are interesting things to work with.
I found these seeds yesterday
Just the shape, size, color of what I really looking for