*The K.I.S.S. Method*
- Thread starter Ioni Botani
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..consider me jealous...
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milehighmedical
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Yeah I just use the green scoop.
I use about 5 heaping scoops for a 5 gallon bucket of water.
sometimes I put less sometimes more, I really don't think you have to be so precise, maxibloom is pretty forgiving.
I use about 5 heaping scoops for a 5 gallon bucket of water.
sometimes I put less sometimes more, I really don't think you have to be so precise, maxibloom is pretty forgiving.
if you get popped with 4k+ blooming in a non med state, a scale is the least of your worries. I thought people were saying the scoop is slightly off sized, is it a true 7 gr scoop?
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Cheeb
Thats kind of what I figured, but I just like to be extra cautious.
Something about having just the garden in the house makes me sleep better then having a garden w/ scales n' such.
I still think the scales and baggies will be used against you even if they are located on the other end of the house in the kitchen regardless of if their is residue on the scale. That kitchen scale WILL be considered a "drug" scale when its taken out of the kitchen and placed next to all of our grow equipment for the PIG's photo op.
Call me crazy, but I dont even like having reflectors anymore....just more shit for them to drag into your yard in front of all the neighbors. To come into a room w/ just bulbs, ballasts, and wires cant be too exciting for them. Comforts me to have the ability to put my entire setup in a small box or my reservoir - minus the plants and scrubber of course.
The only gear I want to own is electronic Ballasts (phantoms), cord sets, lamps, max fans, and scrubbers. Combine those items w/ grow bags n' blumats and its a huge success w/ minimal "stuff".
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I actually just did the math between using Maxibloom 16lb vs. FloraMicro/FloraBloom 6Gal Jugs and the difference isnt as high as I thought it'd be.
I get close to wholesale prices on stuff due to a friend so the price difference PER GALLON of solution mixed is only about .03 higher when using the liquid GH. Thats only $1.50 more per 50 Gallon reservoir!
I was under the impression that using the Maxibloom was saving me a ton of money vs liquid GH at lucas rate, but thats not the case after doing the math.
I think I'll be switching back to liquid GH to avoid the hassle of dissolving larger amount of powder and increases my mix time.
Here is the math. At full retail price. Most prolly dont realize this.
Maxibloom (16lb) costs 0.115234375 to make a Gallon at 7g/Gal
FloraMicro (6Gal) - costs 0.059901339/Gal at 8ml/Gal
FloraBloom (6Gal) - costs 0.098661029/Gal at 16ml/Gal
= Total Cost of 0.158562368 to make a Gallon at Lucas 8/16 Rate.
That means Maxibloom is only saving one 0.043327993 per Gallon vs just using the liquid. At retail price its costing an extra $2.16 to mix a 50 Gallon batch of nutrients.
I can live w/ that price increase to not have to weigh/dissolve a few hundred grams of powder.
Just wanted to bring it to light for those rushing out and buying Maxibloom to save money. It may be worth the extra nickle per Gallon to just run with regular old lucas GH. Would be even cheaper if following head formula for coco as it uses even less micro/bloom at a 6/9 rate.
Maxibloom does have the benefit of longer storage however.
FloraMicro/Bloom has the benefit of being able to drop the micro towards the end of flower.
Something about having just the garden in the house makes me sleep better then having a garden w/ scales n' such.
I still think the scales and baggies will be used against you even if they are located on the other end of the house in the kitchen regardless of if their is residue on the scale. That kitchen scale WILL be considered a "drug" scale when its taken out of the kitchen and placed next to all of our grow equipment for the PIG's photo op.
Call me crazy, but I dont even like having reflectors anymore....just more shit for them to drag into your yard in front of all the neighbors. To come into a room w/ just bulbs, ballasts, and wires cant be too exciting for them. Comforts me to have the ability to put my entire setup in a small box or my reservoir - minus the plants and scrubber of course.
The only gear I want to own is electronic Ballasts (phantoms), cord sets, lamps, max fans, and scrubbers. Combine those items w/ grow bags n' blumats and its a huge success w/ minimal "stuff".
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I actually just did the math between using Maxibloom 16lb vs. FloraMicro/FloraBloom 6Gal Jugs and the difference isnt as high as I thought it'd be.
I get close to wholesale prices on stuff due to a friend so the price difference PER GALLON of solution mixed is only about .03 higher when using the liquid GH. Thats only $1.50 more per 50 Gallon reservoir!
I was under the impression that using the Maxibloom was saving me a ton of money vs liquid GH at lucas rate, but thats not the case after doing the math.
I think I'll be switching back to liquid GH to avoid the hassle of dissolving larger amount of powder and increases my mix time.
Here is the math. At full retail price. Most prolly dont realize this.
Maxibloom (16lb) costs 0.115234375 to make a Gallon at 7g/Gal
FloraMicro (6Gal) - costs 0.059901339/Gal at 8ml/Gal
FloraBloom (6Gal) - costs 0.098661029/Gal at 16ml/Gal
= Total Cost of 0.158562368 to make a Gallon at Lucas 8/16 Rate.
That means Maxibloom is only saving one 0.043327993 per Gallon vs just using the liquid. At retail price its costing an extra $2.16 to mix a 50 Gallon batch of nutrients.
I can live w/ that price increase to not have to weigh/dissolve a few hundred grams of powder.
Just wanted to bring it to light for those rushing out and buying Maxibloom to save money. It may be worth the extra nickle per Gallon to just run with regular old lucas GH. Would be even cheaper if following head formula for coco as it uses even less micro/bloom at a 6/9 rate.
Maxibloom does have the benefit of longer storage however.
FloraMicro/Bloom has the benefit of being able to drop the micro towards the end of flower.
Its not really that technical... A little more or less is what your plants will tell you. Watch them and you will know how much to use. use the scooper in the bag...
BashertofCyndi
Member
Its hilarious that it isnt taken into consideration that someone might wanna dose theyr meds. I meen, would you just take a handfull of asperin or would you count out 2? -If anybody ever busted me wth a scale Id tellem I just wanted to know how much I was cookin with. -Everybodys house got baggies in it.
yeah but I'm not mixing up a small batch. an extra .2 gr per scoop adds up.
I'm not concerned about scales, other grower was, I just ask on the accuracy of the scoop because I'll be doing a side by side and dont have a digital PPM meter so I'd like to control the exact dosage.
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milehighmedical
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Ioni Botani
Member
Dunno if I posted this yet....
GeneralHydroponics.com
Flora Series Keep It Simple Program!
Lol. I'm doing this (somewhat modified) right now to get rid of some liquid GH I have laying around. All around pleased... I really like Ebb n Flow...easy to maintain, supreme results.
GeneralHydroponics.com
Flora Series Keep It Simple Program!
Lol. I'm doing this (somewhat modified) right now to get rid of some liquid GH I have laying around. All around pleased... I really like Ebb n Flow...easy to maintain, supreme results.
BashertofCyndi
Member
Hey Ioni good to see ya!
Just got our Maxi in today and our coco choir came the day before that. Got 25 cuts yesterday too!
Now we'r gonna throw the 3 mom bukkits into flower with 1200 watts in tubes between them. That'l be our first coliseium. Then when our clones root we'l cull 13 and put the remaining 12 into flower in theyr own coliseium, with 2 flowers in each iglu with coco choir.
Thery'l be 6 iglus to a coloseium. 3 around the lower 600 and 3 more on raks around the upper 600. I got enoughf coco choir to fill one coliseium. Somewhere along the way we'l get the coco for the last coloseium but for now we'l run the 2 x 1200 watt coloseiums, one with 3 bubble bukkits and one with 6 iglus fulla coco.
Me and Cyndi'l be bizzy tomorow mornin!
SWEET!
Just got our Maxi in today and our coco choir came the day before that. Got 25 cuts yesterday too!
Now we'r gonna throw the 3 mom bukkits into flower with 1200 watts in tubes between them. That'l be our first coliseium. Then when our clones root we'l cull 13 and put the remaining 12 into flower in theyr own coliseium, with 2 flowers in each iglu with coco choir.
Thery'l be 6 iglus to a coloseium. 3 around the lower 600 and 3 more on raks around the upper 600. I got enoughf coco choir to fill one coliseium. Somewhere along the way we'l get the coco for the last coloseium but for now we'l run the 2 x 1200 watt coloseiums, one with 3 bubble bukkits and one with 6 iglus fulla coco.
Me and Cyndi'l be bizzy tomorow mornin!
SWEET!
MMJGrowDoctor
Member
4K is like a closet up here in Washington. With being able to grow 15 plants and have 1 1/2 LB on us at all times we do not have to worry about things like that. I agree if your a med Patient and have a scale in the grow room just for weighing your nuts I am sure your going to be fine.
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This is the way I figure it;
One 2.2lb bag of Maxibloom costs me $15.50. @7 grams/gal, I can make 137 gallons.
Lucas formula 8/16;
One gallon of Micro costs me $36. @8ml/gal I can make 118 gallons.
(946/8)
Bloom is $31.95 and since I need twice as much per gal I can only make 59 gallons. I need two gallons of bloom for everyone one gallon of micro.
So, for $100 dollars I can make 118 gallons of Lucas formula or for $15.50 I can make 137 gallons of Lucas ratio. Thats a big savings...
Besides, the savings will be eschewed by the amounts you buy.
Ioni Botani
Member
Shit man what does it matter if they're dragging out whole plants and shit....at that point your already fucked! I don't think they'd charge you extra for the hoods....or for what "The neighbors thought."
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Id rather have vented hoods and other proper equipment and them NOT catch me; then to have exposed bulbs (Radiant HEAT) and get caught....ya dig?
IMO If it came to that....you're fucked regardless.
Ok I just mixed up a batch of maxi bloom in to a gallon to test this out on my moms. But even my chem d cant take more then 1000 for veg but the tds meter reads 1330 ppm this would be over kill for my mothers would it be ok to dilute?????or would that throw everything off??????1330 seems real high for vegging plants.my tap comes out at about 220/240ppm on the tds.Any help would be cool thanx.Or would I be better off using this with ro water and not use calmag. I am growing in canna coco.
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milehighmedical
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maybe i'm off but mine comes out to around 850 everytime i mix it . i'm using RO water at 20 ppm & just the maxi . what are you addingf & whats the ppm of your water ? do you give it a "level" tsp or is it a heaping tsp per gallon ?
What kinda of ppms are u getting?????I start with my tap water @ 220/240 ppm tap water and 7 grams maxi. I am getting 1330 ppm are u getting the same???????If u are giving ur chem 4 1330 ppm in veg then I would feel safe feeding at that high ppm to my chems and ogs.
Yeah tap water is 220/240 ppm with the 7 grams of maxi bloom from the scale I used the spoon it came with on the smaller scoop and it came out to 5 grams on the dot so I put two more to make 7 grams....Would this be easier to just use ro water???????I would think with ro water u would have to add calmag right??????I grow in coco.
